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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 02:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. That's not the point of course...
It's simply a matter of law ~ he is still governor and hasn't been found guilty of anything.
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  -LOL - I don't blame Blago; it's his right and duty to fill the seat... polichick  Dec-30-08 02:21 PM   #0 
  - He must have his pants specially tailored to house the pair it took to even try to make that move.  AtomicKitten   Dec-30-08 02:23 PM   #1 
  - True! I've always appreciated ballsy people, even Blago. :)  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:25 PM   #4 
     - No lie, he once bragged about having TESTICULAR VIRULITY!  wndycty   Dec-30-08 02:31 PM   #11 
        - LOL - too funny!  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:32 PM   #13 
        - Not as big as San Fran's mayor Gavin Newsom  Roberto1223   Dec-30-08 02:33 PM   #14 
  - Nah.. He's using that guy and it's disgusting  Truth Hurts A Lot   Dec-30-08 02:23 PM   #2 
  - Don't worry. He'll be kicked out of the Senate soon enough.  GarbagemanLB   Dec-30-08 02:24 PM   #3 
  - On what grounds?  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:29 PM   #8 
     - They don't need grounds.  GarbagemanLB   Dec-30-08 02:39 PM   #20 
        - What's the rule that allows them to refuse Burris?  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:47 PM   #28 
           - I'm not talking about their ability to REFUSE him, I am saying they have the power to EXPEL him  GarbagemanLB   Dec-30-08 03:03 PM   #39 
           - They'll hold up seating him  IWantAnyDem   Dec-30-08 05:47 PM   #99 
  - Innocent until proven guilty or not, Blago knows he's radioactive right now.  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-30-08 02:26 PM   #5 
  - He's doing it because he hasn't been found guilty of anything but colorful language.  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:26 PM   #6 
  - He's STILL an incredibly controversial figure right now...  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-30-08 02:29 PM   #7 
     - Would you give up your position and fail to do your duty because of an accusation?  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:31 PM   #10 
        - If that responsibility was choosing a U.S. Senator, I would hope so!  Elrond Hubbard   Dec-30-08 02:31 PM   #12 
           - They'd have to prove me guilty first. Anyway, Burris seems fine.  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:33 PM   #15 
  - Blagojevich is guilty as fuck  IWantAnyDem   Dec-30-08 05:48 PM   #101 
  - If you give up your senate seat, then you have to abide by the process  LisaM   Dec-30-08 02:30 PM   #9 
  - Have Clinton or Biden given up their seats yet?  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:34 PM   #16 
     - I think Clinton has - there's lots of talk about NY's pick  LisaM   Dec-30-08 02:36 PM   #17 
     - I thought she was holding on in order to have more input...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:38 PM   #19 
     - No, neither of them have resigned yet  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-30-08 03:33 PM   #66 
        - Thanks - is that because they want some say in their replacement, or what?  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:35 PM   #69 
           - Biden's new job doesn't start until January 20  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-30-08 03:40 PM   #73 
           - Obama's doesn't start until Jan. 20, but he stepped down.  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:41 PM   #75 
           - Obama has a lot of work to do as President-elect  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-30-08 03:46 PM   #80 
              - Biden and Clinton must be busy too - I wonder if they're staying on...  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:47 PM   #81 
                 - Biden's replacement has already been named  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-30-08 04:04 PM   #92 
           - Isn't she still a setting congress woman? This session?  jwirr   Dec-30-08 04:12 PM   #94 
           - Biden's replacement has already been appointed  jberryhill   Dec-30-08 07:12 PM   #106 
              - He has been named, but has not taken office as Biden has not yet resigned  Freddie Stubbs   Dec-30-08 08:20 PM   #108 
  - Amen...  SeeHopeWin   Dec-30-08 02:37 PM   #18 
  - The Blagojevich defenders blow my mind.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 02:40 PM   #21 
  - That's not the point of course...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:41 PM   #22 
  - When he is inevitably found guilty of something, can we stop this?  olkaz   Dec-30-08 02:44 PM   #26 
  - Would you quit your job because of an accusation?  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:45 PM   #27 
  - That is not a worthwhile comparison.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 02:52 PM   #31 
  - I have no trouble with impeaching him, but until they do he has rights...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:56 PM   #34 
     - Are you suggesting that I don't think the law matters?  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:02 PM   #38 
        - No straw man - you don't seem to care that he has rights, by law.  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:07 PM   #42 
           - It is a straw man.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:15 PM   #51 
              - The op was about the man's rights within the law - you objected...  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:17 PM   #54 
                 - I objected to the dismissiveness of the OP.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:23 PM   #61 
                    - It's not my job to educate you, but I'm glad you learned something.  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:36 PM   #71 
  - Uh, you do know many jobs put people on paid leave if they're being investigated, right?  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:12 PM   #49 
     - In this case, he hasn't been "put on leave." Many people continue to work...  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:15 PM   #52 
     - Plus, it's not exactly like he's accused of a violent crime like assault  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:18 PM   #56 
     - He very well could be found guilty.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:23 PM   #60 
        - I like what he's doing - a Repuke would not give in unless it would help the greater cause  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:25 PM   #62 
           - I think what he's doing is selfish and appalling.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:30 PM   #64 
              - I disagree completely  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:32 PM   #65 
                 - Do the people of Illinois deserve to have a governor?  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:34 PM   #67 
                 - Disagree all you want. He certainly isn't doing it for the people of Illinois.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:34 PM   #68 
                    - Well like it or not, I would do the same thing  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:35 PM   #70 
                       - Then you're as selfish as he.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:42 PM   #76 
                          - I don't see it as selfishness  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:45 PM   #78 
                          - Apparently you don't think Illinois needs a governor.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:48 PM   #82 
                          - They'll have a governor  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:51 PM   #86 
                          - So you probably think Bush is being selfless, too, right?  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 05:44 PM   #96 
                             - No I don't - the situations are different  mvd   Dec-30-08 05:46 PM   #98 
                                - He gets the benefit of the doubt, most people do not.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 06:20 PM   #104 
                                   - I don't think it's that simple  mvd   Dec-30-08 06:46 PM   #105 
                          - I'm sure Blago doesn't think he's hurting his state.  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:45 PM   #79 
                             - You're right. He probably is too engrossed in his own ego for that.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 05:44 PM   #97 
                                - Well, he WAS elected by the people - and so far he's been found guilty of nothing.  polichick   Dec-30-08 05:47 PM   #100 
                                   - That doesn't mean he's not damaging his state.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 06:19 PM   #103 
     - And that's a problem.  Drunken Irishman   Dec-30-08 03:21 PM   #59 
     - Finally, some common sense.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:16 PM   #53 
        - Blago hasn't been put on leave in this case.  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:18 PM   #55 
           - Which is why state government is moving to impeach him.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:26 PM   #63 
  - "Inevitably" ? I hope you never serve on a jury.  saracat   Dec-30-08 02:49 PM   #30 
     - I'm sorry, is this a hearing?  olkaz   Dec-30-08 02:55 PM   #32 
        - You know what they say about "assumptions".  saracat   Dec-30-08 03:05 PM   #41 
           - /sigh  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:11 PM   #46 
  - And no WAY is he more corrupt than Bush  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:41 PM   #74 
     - How do you know?  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:43 PM   #77 
        - Law of default basically  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:49 PM   #83 
           - Blagojevich can't match the scope, but pound for pound, no contest.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:52 PM   #87 
              - Disagreed  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:53 PM   #88 
                 - I take that back - Cheney is the king  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:57 PM   #89 
                    - I'm telling you, if you lived in Illinois as close to state government as I am, you'd rethink that.  olkaz   Dec-30-08 03:59 PM   #90 
                       - I would never think that  mvd   Dec-30-08 04:03 PM   #91 
  - But that doesn't mean his Senate pick is bad and he hasn't been proved guilty of anything!  saracat   Dec-30-08 02:42 PM   #24 
  - Only the judge and jury at his trial have to consider him innocent until proven guilty. We do not.  backscatter712   Dec-30-08 02:42 PM   #23 
  - The talking heads have said they don't know if the Senate can refuse to seat Burris...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:44 PM   #25 
  - Supreme Court precedent says the Senate must seat him  DoubleDigitIQ   Dec-30-08 02:56 PM   #33 
  - We have no right to "refuse " to seat anyone. Blagosevich is the leaglly elected Governor and  saracat   Dec-30-08 02:47 PM   #29 
     - True - they just mentioned on msnbc that there's been a court decision that supports...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:58 PM   #36 
        - That probably means that instead of refusing to seat...  backscatter712   Dec-30-08 03:04 PM   #40 
        - How could they expel him - what's that procedure?  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:09 PM   #44 
           - I think it requires a 2/3 vote.  backscatter712   Dec-30-08 03:21 PM   #58 
              - Thanks - I'll get my popcorn ready!  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:38 PM   #72 
        - Oh, Daily Kos mentioned the IL Sec. of State might refuse to certify Burris.  backscatter712   Dec-30-08 03:49 PM   #84 
           - That would be an interesting move!  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:51 PM   #85 
           - The IL SoS admits that it won't have any effect  DoubleDigitIQ   Dec-30-08 04:07 PM   #93 
  - Blago has to pick somebody.  bigwillq   Dec-30-08 02:56 PM   #35 
  - He was smart to choose an African American with no baggage...  polichick   Dec-30-08 02:59 PM   #37 
  - In these dull 'one potus at a time' times, it's kinda fun seeing Blago represent!  leftstreet   Dec-30-08 03:09 PM   #43 
  - I know - I had a nice laugh! :)  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:11 PM   #47 
  - Right. And many legal minds doubt that there is anything there  question everything   Dec-30-08 03:09 PM   #45 
  - Yep - Dems passed on the special election, so he took the next move...  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:13 PM   #50 
  - I completely agree  mvd   Dec-30-08 03:12 PM   #48 
  - I wish Reid would stand this firm too!  polichick   Dec-30-08 03:19 PM   #57 
  - Me too!  saracat   Dec-30-08 04:20 PM   #95 
  - This nomination is BULLSHIT  Top Cat   Dec-30-08 06:08 PM   #102 
  - He did really f*ck them over, huh?  AZBlue   Dec-30-08 07:44 PM   #107 

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