Reply #214: I agree. Even if only 80% of DU was for gay marriage

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(and I seriously doubt that number is anywhere NEAR that low), that would still be anywhere from 25-40% HIGHER than the rest of the country. I would wager that DU's numbers in support of marriage equality are higher than 90%, meaning that there is no doubt that gays on DU are amongst many, many friends.

So til my last dying breath on this earth, I will NEVER understand OP's like this and the DU'ers that are running over this entire site and insulting everyone not in their cliques with hurtful (and probably very untrue) insults. This is what - day number **12** of the Rick Warren madness?? 13?? Who knows?? And anyone know when it will cease, particularly as Obama has made it as clear as day that despite the controversy and beating of breasts, Warren will still be on that stage with him?

The problem is that some folks seem to think that the act of allowing Rick Warren to give a prayer is a stand-in for the whole, broad issue of civil rights for gays. It isn't.

I could NOT agree with you more. Someone posted a really good comment about all of this, "are we really at a point where people can isolate their friends and ALLIES over this issue" as has been done here with little thought or consideration? My guess is that there is still a sh*tload of work to be done, but if the 7 DU members who have been so unreasonable, hateful and harmful to their own cause over this issue (and we ALL know who they are) think that all of our help is not necessary or needed, and that everyone who is not frothing over Rick Warren is somehow against gay marriage and/or gay rights, then to them I say "more power to you." These folks seem to be the only ones in the history of the world who think that the less soldiers you have going into battle, the better. Can't help but wonder if Rumsfeld is amongst their ranks...