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Fri Dec-19-08 03:03 PM
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| 114. I never said Obama is a homophobe. |
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I believe he's making some very cynical choices at the expense of the GLBT community and that he has no real plan to do anything to improve our situation. On top of that he's insulting us in his very first actions as president.
Hell, I don't believe nearly anyone on this board is a homophobe. I'm just fucking sick of people telling me to 'hold off' or 'get over it'. It's very easy to say that when you either have your rights or don't care about them. For the rest of us, it fucking hurts.
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| -Republicans before Gays in the Obama administration. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:05 PM |
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Yeah.... Clinton, at least, had a midget....... |
scheming daemons |
Dec-19-08 01:09 PM |
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... |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-19-08 01:11 PM |
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but we get to be in the parade! |
Neecy |
Dec-19-08 01:06 PM |
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they let us sing showtunes for them!!!11 |
jonnyblitz |
Dec-19-08 01:07 PM |
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maybe we can do their hair, too! |
Neecy |
Dec-19-08 01:08 PM |
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We're still good enough to be the entertainment. Great. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:07 PM |
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I'm urging any that care to get the band to pull out of the parade |
crappyjazz |
Dec-19-08 01:08 PM |
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Thank you. I'll write them now. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:09 PM |
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excellent |
Neecy |
Dec-19-08 01:10 PM |
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Replace sexual orientation with race and you can see the emptiness of the Obama position. |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 01:14 PM |
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Pull out? They should play a FUNERAL DIRGE as they pass in review. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:15 PM |
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I would normally agree.... |
Neecy |
Dec-19-08 01:24 PM |
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Well, we'll have to agree to differ. I think they have an opportunity to make a point. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:43 PM |
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But will they do that? |
Neecy |
Dec-19-08 01:50 PM |
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If they were going to pull it off, they'd have to keep it to themselves |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 02:49 PM |
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I've got a different idea |
zipplewrath |
Dec-19-08 01:32 PM |
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Maybe if Obama switched parties, he would reach across that aisle back to us? |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 01:10 PM |
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Yeah, can you imagine McCain doing the Reep equivalent.. |
ananda |
Dec-19-08 01:15 PM |
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Nancy Sutley is openly gay and she was chosen to lead Obama's Environmental Council. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:11 PM |
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And it's not a cabinet level position. We've been through that. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:12 PM |
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I know. But she was chosen to be in his admin. That's more than just offering nice words |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:14 PM |
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So repubs are better than gays to Obama. He's made that clear. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:16 PM |
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Your words: "The GLBT community gets nice words as we're shoved to the sidelines." |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:17 PM |
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To a lesser position. It's not the same and you know it. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:20 PM |
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Your OP implies all he offered to gay people is nice words. That's false and you know it. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:22 PM |
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So you think that the repub LaHood was better than any gay person could be? |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:24 PM |
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In his mind, yes. Just like he apparently thought the gay woman Nancy Sutley was better |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:30 PM |
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So we're good enough for the lesser positions but repubs rank higher. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:32 PM |
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Please. Get real. It has nothing to do with that. How many disabled people has he chosen for his |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:38 PM |
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You have laws protecting you. We Don't. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:47 PM |
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Huh? He hasn't chosen any disabled people in his administration so he obviously |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:48 PM |
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We need representation because we are completely left out at the moment. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:54 PM |
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You changed your argument. Your logic was that because Obama didn't offer |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:03 PM |
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No, you changed the focus. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:06 PM |
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No I didn't. I compared apples to apples. I want senior level representation, too, |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:11 PM |
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You're a fan. You can think whatever you like about me because I don't respect your opinions. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:15 PM |
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Then you're an idiot who tried to change the subject. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:17 PM |
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And you're trash. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:18 PM |
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Get lost. You can't defend your position so you change your argument and then personally attack me. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:22 PM |
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You started the personal attacks so fuck off. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:24 PM |
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I'M trash? I started the personal attacks? I challenge you to point that out and if not, I |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:26 PM |
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you just called a disabled person "trash" |
CreekDog |
Dec-19-08 02:34 PM |
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Thank you for noticing that. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:36 PM |
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I don't know if i trust that person to stand up for anybody if he so quickly calls you "trash" |
CreekDog |
Dec-19-08 02:56 PM |
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Thank you for following our discussion... |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 03:00 PM |
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A couple of days ago you were posting that Obama had appointed several gay people to his cabinet. |
yardwork |
Dec-19-08 02:10 PM |
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That's a lie. I posted that Obama had appointed ONE gay person to his cabinet and was |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:14 PM |
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Maybe so. I know that several DUers have been repeatedly posting that there are "lots" |
yardwork |
Dec-19-08 02:32 PM |
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Thank you. It WASN'T me. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:35 PM |
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Don't blame me, I supported Hillary. |
Lirwin2 |
Dec-19-08 02:11 PM |
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Does "best person" mean competent and effective? Great, but not if the goals pursued |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 01:17 PM |
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So Obama's goals are not good? You're comparing him to Bush?? |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:21 PM |
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No. What I am saying is that competence in the pursuit of a "bad" goal is not a good thing. |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 01:55 PM |
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So Obama's goals are not good? What goals are you talking about? |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:08 PM |
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Continuing the war on the ME for another year, or two, or more; NOT going after the bushies for |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 02:28 PM |
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He said he's going to bring the troops home in 16 months. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:34 PM |
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That mother's daughter still "will die" a year after Obama takes office. But she should be |
T Wolf |
Dec-19-08 02:46 PM |
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So now you're blaming him for not bringing them home sooner than he promised? If it was |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:49 PM |
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Not a cabinet post n/t |
IWantAnyDem |
Dec-19-08 01:13 PM |
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Not the point. The OP was talking about Obama's administration. n/t |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:16 PM |
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Well, her boss doesn't think she should have the right to be married. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:17 PM |
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And we all knew that all along, didn't we? We also know his position on other gay rights. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:19 PM |
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Yep. He said it often enough. He doesn't support gay marriage. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:35 PM |
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I wasn't aware Obama is a member of DU! |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:39 PM |
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I didn't say he was. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:45 PM |
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"Funny, that rule apparently isn't enforced." How is it not being enforced??? |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 01:46 PM |
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There are people on this forum who plainly do not support gay marriage. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 02:08 PM |
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Can you name someone here who doesn't support gay marriage? |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:16 PM |
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Why yes, I could, but that would be a "call out" and that's against DU rules. |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 02:30 PM |
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OK, but just know I'm not one of them. |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:41 PM |
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Hello, MADem?!?! WTH did you mean by the DU rules not being enforced? |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:05 PM |
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I just told you. You've replied twice to the same post. NT |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 02:09 PM |
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Obama's Environmental Council..... |
bvar22 |
Dec-19-08 03:01 PM |
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He made no secret of his anti-gay marriage view. The thing was, too many people wanted to "BELIEVE." |
MADem |
Dec-19-08 01:11 PM |
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4% GLB among voters and 32% Republicans. What would you expect? n/t |
jody |
Dec-19-08 01:12 PM |
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You have an ally here! |
ananda |
Dec-19-08 01:16 PM |
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Thank you. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:19 PM |
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Stop hating yourself. If I were president, "gay" or "staright" would not enter my thinking |
thereismore |
Dec-19-08 01:22 PM |
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Dec-19-08 01:25 PM |
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Who would you have preferred be appointed? nt |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 01:31 PM |
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Bullshit argument, like always. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:33 PM |
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Okay. So who would have been better? |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 01:37 PM |
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Once again, I hired Obama to do that and he failed. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 01:48 PM |
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If you voted for Obama because you thought that |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:02 PM |
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Just like your avatar, you talk in nothing but circles. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:03 PM |
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Huh? Why do you refuse to answer this simple question? |
Dawgs |
Dec-19-08 02:07 PM |
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Aww...Did Occam call in his posse? |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:10 PM |
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No, just responding to an idiot. |
Dawgs |
Dec-19-08 02:47 PM |
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Fuck you. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:52 PM |
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Aww...Did Occam call in his posse? |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:10 PM |
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No, you're dodging the question. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:10 PM |
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Because it's a bullshit question like I said from the beginning. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:14 PM |
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So it's "bullshit" to ask you to back up the claim that Obama has turned down more-qualified gays? |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:16 PM |
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I didn't say he turned them down. He never gave them a chance to compete. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:17 PM |
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All right. What evidence do you have for that? |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:21 PM |
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If he did then you're suggesting he found absolutely no qualified gay candidates. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:26 PM |
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So it isn't possible that the most-qualified person for Sec. of Labor is straight? |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:46 PM |
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So it isn't possible that the most qualified person was gay? |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:49 PM |
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That is also possible. It is indeed possible that |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:57 PM |
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I never said Obama is a homophobe. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 03:03 PM |
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There are lots of qualified gay people out there |
Politicub |
Dec-19-08 02:25 PM |
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Sure there are. But there can only be one deemed most qualified. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-19-08 02:48 PM |
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I disagree with you that someone is "most qualified" based on |
Politicub |
Dec-19-08 03:50 PM |
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He did the same to me, then accused me of being a "fan," then got more and |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 02:29 PM |
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Excellent point! I'm just amazed and the irrational arguments some of my |
Ozma |
Dec-19-08 02:29 PM |
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Oh boy. |
Jennicut |
Dec-19-08 01:37 PM |
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*snort* I brought some butter and a 2 liter bottle of Orange Crush. |
JenniferZ |
Dec-19-08 02:13 PM |
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LOL. I love orange soda, inf fact I am drinking some now. Has to be diet though |
Jennicut |
Dec-19-08 02:20 PM |
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I don't do well with sugar, either. So sugar free it is! |
JenniferZ |
Dec-19-08 02:30 PM |
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Oh well. I posted something about ways to be constructive about the Warren thing |
Jennicut |
Dec-19-08 02:45 PM |
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Now I'll go find that post. Thanks. :) |
JenniferZ |
Dec-19-08 03:04 PM |
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I guess you'll be voting the Palin/Santorum ticket, then. Good luck with that. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-19-08 02:47 PM |
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Maybe when you're suffering as much as we are you'll get the point. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:54 PM |
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OK then. Just make sure to change your registration. We don't want you to fuck up the polls. |
anonymous171 |
Dec-19-08 02:51 PM |
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I don't take orders from the likes of you. |
last1standing |
Dec-19-08 02:53 PM |
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After reading this thread (and taking part in it), I can see how people would come to the |
jenmito |
Dec-19-08 03:21 PM |
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Did anyone ever think of this Warren dude.... |
Faye |
Dec-19-08 03:51 PM |
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