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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 01:37 PM
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44. Okay. So who would have been better?
You can't say "I'm not happy," and then when asked what would make you happy, reply "that's not my problem." If you can't think of any better appointments, then why do you assume Obama did and then shunned them out of homophobia? Isn't that an awfully big assumption to make?
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  -Republicans before Gays in the Obama administration. last1standing  Dec-19-08 01:05 PM   #0 
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  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-19-08 01:08 PM   #6 
  - Yeah.... Clinton, at least, had a midget.......  scheming daemons   Dec-19-08 01:09 PM   #10 
     - ...  GarbagemanLB   Dec-19-08 01:11 PM   #14 
  - but we get to be in the parade!  Neecy   Dec-19-08 01:06 PM   #2 
  - they let us sing showtunes for them!!!11  jonnyblitz   Dec-19-08 01:07 PM   #4 
  - maybe we can do their hair, too!  Neecy   Dec-19-08 01:08 PM   #7 
  - We're still good enough to be the entertainment. Great.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:07 PM   #5 
  - I'm urging any that care to get the band to pull out of the parade  crappyjazz   Dec-19-08 01:08 PM   #8 
     - Thank you. I'll write them now.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:09 PM   #9 
     - excellent  Neecy   Dec-19-08 01:10 PM   #11 
     - Replace sexual orientation with race and you can see the emptiness of the Obama position.  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 01:14 PM   #19 
     - Pull out? They should play a FUNERAL DIRGE as they pass in review.  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:15 PM   #22 
     - I would normally agree....  Neecy   Dec-19-08 01:24 PM   #35 
        - Well, we'll have to agree to differ. I think they have an opportunity to make a point.  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:43 PM   #48 
           - But will they do that?  Neecy   Dec-19-08 01:50 PM   #54 
              - If they were going to pull it off, they'd have to keep it to themselves  MADem   Dec-19-08 02:49 PM   #105 
     - I've got a different idea  zipplewrath   Dec-19-08 01:32 PM   #41 
  - Maybe if Obama switched parties, he would reach across that aisle back to us?  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 01:10 PM   #12 
  - Yeah, can you imagine McCain doing the Reep equivalent..  ananda   Dec-19-08 01:15 PM   #21 
  - Nancy Sutley is openly gay and she was chosen to lead Obama's Environmental Council. n/t  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:11 PM   #13 
  - And it's not a cabinet level position. We've been through that.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:12 PM   #17 
  - I know. But she was chosen to be in his admin. That's more than just offering nice words  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:14 PM   #20 
     - So repubs are better than gays to Obama. He's made that clear.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:16 PM   #23 
     - Your words: "The GLBT community gets nice words as we're shoved to the sidelines."  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:17 PM   #28 
        - To a lesser position. It's not the same and you know it.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:20 PM   #31 
           - Your OP implies all he offered to gay people is nice words. That's false and you know it.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:22 PM   #34 
              - So you think that the repub LaHood was better than any gay person could be?  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:24 PM   #36 
                 - In his mind, yes. Just like he apparently thought the gay woman Nancy Sutley was better  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:30 PM   #38 
                    - So we're good enough for the lesser positions but repubs rank higher.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:32 PM   #40 
                       - Please. Get real. It has nothing to do with that. How many disabled people has he chosen for his  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:38 PM   #46 
                          - You have laws protecting you. We Don't.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:47 PM   #51 
                             - Huh? He hasn't chosen any disabled people in his administration so he obviously  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:48 PM   #53 
                                - We need representation because we are completely left out at the moment.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:54 PM   #55 
                                   - You changed your argument. Your logic was that because Obama didn't offer  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:03 PM   #58 
                                      - No, you changed the focus.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:06 PM   #61 
                                      - No I didn't. I compared apples to apples. I want senior level representation, too,  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:11 PM   #70 
                                         - You're a fan. You can think whatever you like about me because I don't respect your opinions.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:15 PM   #75 
                                            - Then you're an idiot who tried to change the subject.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:17 PM   #78 
                                            - And you're trash.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:18 PM   #80 
                                            - Get lost. You can't defend your position so you change your argument and then personally attack me.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:22 PM   #83 
                                            - You started the personal attacks so fuck off.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:24 PM   #84 
                                            - I'M trash? I started the personal attacks? I challenge you to point that out and if not, I  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:26 PM   #86 
                                            - you just called a disabled person "trash"  CreekDog   Dec-19-08 02:34 PM   #94 
                                            - Thank you for noticing that.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:36 PM   #97 
                                            - I don't know if i trust that person to stand up for anybody if he so quickly calls you "trash"  CreekDog   Dec-19-08 02:56 PM   #110 
                                            - Thank you for following our discussion...  jenmito   Dec-19-08 03:00 PM   #112 
                                      - A couple of days ago you were posting that Obama had appointed several gay people to his cabinet.  yardwork   Dec-19-08 02:10 PM   #69 
                                      - That's a lie. I posted that Obama had appointed ONE gay person to his cabinet and was  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:14 PM   #73 
                                         - Maybe so. I know that several DUers have been repeatedly posting that there are "lots"  yardwork   Dec-19-08 02:32 PM   #93 
                                            - Thank you. It WASN'T me. n/t  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:35 PM   #96 
                                      - Don't blame me, I supported Hillary.  Lirwin2   Dec-19-08 02:11 PM   #71 
     - Does "best person" mean competent and effective? Great, but not if the goals pursued  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 01:17 PM   #26 
        - So Obama's goals are not good? You're comparing him to Bush??  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:21 PM   #32 
           - No. What I am saying is that competence in the pursuit of a "bad" goal is not a good thing.  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 01:55 PM   #56 
              - So Obama's goals are not good? What goals are you talking about?  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:08 PM   #63 
                 - Continuing the war on the ME for another year, or two, or more; NOT going after the bushies for  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 02:28 PM   #88 
                    - He said he's going to bring the troops home in 16 months.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:34 PM   #95 
                       - That mother's daughter still "will die" a year after Obama takes office. But she should be  T Wolf   Dec-19-08 02:46 PM   # 
                          - So now you're blaming him for not bringing them home sooner than he promised? If it was  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:49 PM   #104 
  - Not a cabinet post n/t  IWantAnyDem   Dec-19-08 01:13 PM   #18 
  - Not the point. The OP was talking about Obama's administration. n/t  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:16 PM   #24 
  - Well, her boss doesn't think she should have the right to be married.  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:17 PM   #27 
  - And we all knew that all along, didn't we? We also know his position on other gay rights.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:19 PM   #30 
     - Yep. He said it often enough. He doesn't support gay marriage.  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:35 PM   #43 
        - I wasn't aware Obama is a member of DU!  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:39 PM   #47 
           - I didn't say he was.  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:45 PM   #49 
              - "Funny, that rule apparently isn't enforced." How is it not being enforced???  jenmito   Dec-19-08 01:46 PM   #50 
              - There are people on this forum who plainly do not support gay marriage.  MADem   Dec-19-08 02:08 PM   #64 
                 - Can you name someone here who doesn't support gay marriage?  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:16 PM   #76 
                    - Why yes, I could, but that would be a "call out" and that's against DU rules.  MADem   Dec-19-08 02:30 PM   #91 
                       - OK, but just know I'm not one of them.  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:41 PM   #98 
              - Hello, MADem?!?! WTH did you mean by the DU rules not being enforced?  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:05 PM   #60 
                 - I just told you. You've replied twice to the same post. NT  MADem   Dec-19-08 02:09 PM   #65 
  - Obama's Environmental Council.....  bvar22   Dec-19-08 03:01 PM   #113 
  - He made no secret of his anti-gay marriage view. The thing was, too many people wanted to "BELIEVE."  MADem   Dec-19-08 01:11 PM   #15 
  - 4% GLB among voters and 32% Republicans. What would you expect? n/t  jody   Dec-19-08 01:12 PM   #16 
  - You have an ally here!  ananda   Dec-19-08 01:16 PM   #25 
  - Thank you.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:19 PM   #29 
  - Stop hating yourself. If I were president, "gay" or "staright" would not enter my thinking  thereismore   Dec-19-08 01:22 PM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-19-08 01:25 PM   #37 
  - Who would you have preferred be appointed? nt  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 01:31 PM   #39 
  - Bullshit argument, like always.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:33 PM   #42 
     - Okay. So who would have been better?  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 01:37 PM   #44 
        - Once again, I hired Obama to do that and he failed.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 01:48 PM   #52 
           - If you voted for Obama because you thought that  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:02 PM   #57 
              - Just like your avatar, you talk in nothing but circles.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:03 PM   #59 
              - Huh? Why do you refuse to answer this simple question?  Dawgs   Dec-19-08 02:07 PM   #62 
              - Aww...Did Occam call in his posse?  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:10 PM   #66 
              - No, just responding to an idiot.  Dawgs   Dec-19-08 02:47 PM   # 
                 - Fuck you.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:52 PM   #107 
              - Aww...Did Occam call in his posse?  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:10 PM   #68 
              - No, you're dodging the question.  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:10 PM   #67 
                 - Because it's a bullshit question like I said from the beginning.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:14 PM   #74 
                 - So it's "bullshit" to ask you to back up the claim that Obama has turned down more-qualified gays?  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:16 PM   #77 
                    - I didn't say he turned them down. He never gave them a chance to compete.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:17 PM   #79 
                       - All right. What evidence do you have for that?  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:21 PM   #82 
                          - If he did then you're suggesting he found absolutely no qualified gay candidates.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:26 PM   #87 
                             - So it isn't possible that the most-qualified person for Sec. of Labor is straight?  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:46 PM   #100 
                                - So it isn't possible that the most qualified person was gay?  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:49 PM   #103 
                                   - That is also possible. It is indeed possible that  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:57 PM   #111 
                                      - I never said Obama is a homophobe.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 03:03 PM   #114 
                 - There are lots of qualified gay people out there  Politicub   Dec-19-08 02:25 PM   #85 
                 - Sure there are. But there can only be one deemed most qualified.  Occam Bandage   Dec-19-08 02:48 PM   #102 
                    - I disagree with you that someone is "most qualified" based on  Politicub   Dec-19-08 03:50 PM   #117 
                 - He did the same to me, then accused me of being a "fan," then got more and  jenmito   Dec-19-08 02:29 PM   #89 
              - Excellent point! I'm just amazed and the irrational arguments some of my  Ozma   Dec-19-08 02:29 PM   #90 
  - Oh boy.  Jennicut   Dec-19-08 01:37 PM   #45 
  - *snort* I brought some butter and a 2 liter bottle of Orange Crush.  JenniferZ   Dec-19-08 02:13 PM   #72 
     - LOL. I love orange soda, inf fact I am drinking some now. Has to be diet though  Jennicut   Dec-19-08 02:20 PM   #81 
        - I don't do well with sugar, either. So sugar free it is!  JenniferZ   Dec-19-08 02:30 PM   #92 
           - Oh well. I posted something about ways to be constructive about the Warren thing  Jennicut   Dec-19-08 02:45 PM   #99 
              - Now I'll go find that post. Thanks. :)  JenniferZ   Dec-19-08 03:04 PM   #115 
  - I guess you'll be voting the Palin/Santorum ticket, then. Good luck with that.  apocalypsehow   Dec-19-08 02:47 PM   #101 
  - Maybe when you're suffering as much as we are you'll get the point.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:54 PM   #109 
  - OK then. Just make sure to change your registration. We don't want you to fuck up the polls.  anonymous171   Dec-19-08 02:51 PM   #106 
  - I don't take orders from the likes of you.  last1standing   Dec-19-08 02:53 PM   #108 
     - After reading this thread (and taking part in it), I can see how people would come to the  jenmito   Dec-19-08 03:21 PM   #116 
  - Did anyone ever think of this Warren dude....  Faye   Dec-19-08 03:51 PM   #118 
 

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