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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #36
40. Oh, I remember.
He really hasn't been trustworthy or inspiring of confidence on equality issues at all.
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  -Obama Inauguration: Rick Warren To Deliver Invocation (Press Release of Inaugration Program) KoKo01  Dec-17-08 01:49 PM   #0 
  - Oh yuck!  polichick   Dec-17-08 01:52 PM   #1 
  - So the fundies have a friend in the White House.  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 01:53 PM   #2 
  - and he sends his kids to.....PRIVATE school!  GarbagemanLB   Dec-17-08 01:56 PM   #4 
  - I take it you're not gay.  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 01:57 PM   #5 
  - Get back to me when any of Obama's policies reflect Warren's views.  GarbagemanLB   Dec-17-08 02:01 PM   #7 
  - Like how he opposes marriage equality?  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:01 PM   #9 
  - And he has been consistent on that, but he supports civil unions. My point was that he doesn't share  GarbagemanLB   Dec-17-08 02:05 PM   #12 
  - He's basically naming Warren as his pastor, his spiritual confidant.  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:11 PM   #16 
     - Uh, where exactly has it been reported that Warren is now his spiritual advisor?  GarbagemanLB   Dec-17-08 02:12 PM   #20 
     - Uh, you didn't read the OP?  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:13 PM   #23 
     - So you have an inside source on this? Awesome. Please keep us updated on the behind-the-scenes  GarbagemanLB   Dec-17-08 02:17 PM   #27 
        - Every time Warren visits the WH--which will be often--I'll post  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:18 PM   #30 
           - The symbolism seems pretty clear to me. n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:20 PM   #32 
     - Tradition  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-17-08 03:46 PM   #90 
        - Considering all of the issues surrounding his last "spiritual advisor"  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 03:51 PM   #91 
        - Whether nor not that will be the case, the choice is still highly significant  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-17-08 04:00 PM   #95 
           - Your concerns are not founded.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 04:08 PM   #96 
              - A 180? nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 04:09 PM   #97 
              - A 180 = a complete reversal.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 04:10 PM   #98 
                 - I get that. But how is this a 180? nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 04:11 PM   #99 
                    - I'm saying it's not.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 04:14 PM   #100 
                       - This demonstrates that his stance is the same as it's always been...  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 04:17 PM   #101 
                          - He supports marriage equivalency.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 04:23 PM   #102 
                             - No, He doesn't. He supports civil unions. Doesn't want them called "marriage".  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 04:25 PM   #103 
                             - Honest to god question: what is the difference?  Vash the Stampede   Dec-17-08 07:16 PM   #112 
                             - The title matters. nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 07:24 PM   #113 
                             - How, practically speaking?  Vash the Stampede   Dec-18-08 07:57 AM   #123 
              - Obama is doing a 30, at the widest  TechBear_Seattle   Dec-17-08 08:03 PM   #116 
              - I might be straight, but I'm not "hopeless" and do not appreciate the label.  Vash the Stampede   Dec-18-08 07:56 AM   #122 
              - Agreed. n/t  ChazII   Dec-17-08 08:44 PM   #120 
        - They've pretty much always been Graham  hileeopnyn8d   Dec-17-08 04:33 PM   #104 
     - If you believe that the people who follow Warren are going to disappear.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:16 PM   #26 
     - oh, come on...  hileeopnyn8d   Dec-17-08 02:26 PM   #39 
        - I volunteered on his campaign. Hardly a "fuck you".  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:32 PM   #44 
        - If it didn't signify, there would be no point in doing it. n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:36 PM   #49 
  - SNAP!  ronnykmarshall   Dec-17-08 02:47 PM   #59 
  - Why pick Rick Warren?  yardwork   Dec-17-08 03:28 PM   #83 
  - i am as horrified as you are  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:04 PM   #11 
  - I'm right there with you on this one.  Hansel   Dec-17-08 03:32 PM   #86 
     - thank you  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 03:59 PM   #94 
  - But the President (elect)  polmaven   Dec-17-08 03:12 PM   #73 
     - Actually, he opposes marriage equality. nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 03:29 PM   #84 
        - I understand,  polmaven   Dec-17-08 05:40 PM   #105 
  - He's giving a known homophobe a national platform and greater visibility.  LeftyMom   Dec-17-08 02:21 PM   #34 
     - Not the first time, you know.  QC   Dec-17-08 02:24 PM   #36 
     - Oh, I remember.  LeftyMom   Dec-17-08 02:27 PM   #40 
     - and his church supported prop 8  ronnykmarshall   Dec-17-08 02:49 PM   #62 
  - bwahahaha.  cali   Dec-17-08 02:10 PM   #15 
     - ??  Fran Kubelik   Dec-17-08 03:13 PM   #75 
  - Some good stuff on there too  Truth2Tell   Dec-17-08 01:54 PM   # 
  - Plus John Williams and Itzhak Perlman...  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 01:57 PM   #6 
  - dupe  Truth2Tell   Dec-17-08 01:54 PM   #3 
  - Ironic in that Obama voted against Robert's confirmation.  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:01 PM   #8 
  - no. it's NOT funny.  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:05 PM   #13 
     - It would be one thing if these folks (the Warren type) could simply be ignored  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:11 PM   #17 
        - People voting against gay civil rights are mostly older voters.  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:24 PM   #37 
        - BUT! if Obama gives concessions (which he always said he would) to RW  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 06:37 PM   #108 
        - lemons -> Frenchie Cat -> lemonade.  hay rick   Dec-17-08 07:31 PM   #115 
  - i am trying to take this calmly  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:02 PM   #10 
  - Perhaps because when a haters is included,  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:07 PM   #14 
     - Frenchie see this thread I started  wndycty   Dec-17-08 02:12 PM   #21 
     - I sure hope it's about strategy - that guy creeps me out!  polichick   Dec-17-08 02:12 PM   #22 
     - What strategy makes hate-mongering acceptable? nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:16 PM   #25 
        - Maybe he was trying to get the hatemongering fundies to watch...  polichick   Dec-17-08 02:21 PM   #33 
           - I think that was what he was trying to do... Remember..he said he was all  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 06:50 PM   #110 
     - But this isn't really simply inclusion. It's a kind of elevation of this horrible person.  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:17 PM   #29 
        - Rick Warren is already elevated......  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:30 PM   #43 
        - Sarah Palin is also elevated in their eyes. Maybe she can be given a spot.  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:34 PM   #45 
        - The invocation is a powerful ritual to whom? and it matters to whom?  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:39 PM   #53 
           - You can't argue both that including Warren is important AND  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:44 PM   #56 
        - Whatever happened to mainstream Christians? They care about things...  polichick   Dec-17-08 02:34 PM   #46 
           - Mainstream Christians also are not a group that can't stand Warren.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:41 PM   #54 
              - Seems like mainstream (Jesus-like) Christians are losing ground to these whackjobs.  polichick   Dec-17-08 02:43 PM   #55 
        - agreed  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:34 PM   #47 
           - Good idea. I'll do the same instead of this uselessness.  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:37 PM   #50 
           - I've done the same. nt  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:44 PM   #57 
  - Why the surprise?  S_E_Fudd   Dec-17-08 02:11 PM   #18 
  - For those with short memories....  Hell Hath No Fury   Dec-17-08 02:11 PM   #19 
  - Was this really necessary?  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:15 PM   #24 
  - I'd have done it!!  mycritters2   Dec-17-08 02:17 PM   #28 
     - And I bet you would have done a great job.  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:18 PM   #31 
  - This Warren bit is going to drive right wingers crazy!  Bleachers7   Dec-17-08 02:23 PM   #35 
  - It already is. . .  wndycty   Dec-17-08 02:25 PM   #38 
  - Yes...it wil drive the RW'ers CRAZY! It will have the Cables and FAUX in a TIZZY...  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 06:53 PM   #111 
  - I'd like to see a snake-handling preacher chosen  Alhena   Dec-17-08 02:29 PM   #41 
  - Plus, it would be entertaining!  polichick   Dec-17-08 02:35 PM   #48 
  - They see eye-to-eye on social justice issues?  Harvey Korman   Dec-17-08 02:30 PM   #42 
  - Hey, I have an Idea! Let's just have everyone hate everyone.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:37 PM   #51 
  - Change I Want To See:  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:38 PM   #52 
     - So like I said...be free to Hate. Hate them, hate Warren,  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:48 PM   #61 
        - ME peace is difficult to achieve  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 02:49 PM   #63 
           - You've made my point.  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 03:07 PM   #67 
              - i did *not* "make your point"!  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 03:09 PM   #70 
                 - So there is no hope in your opinion......  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 03:20 PM   #77 
                    - my concept of hope  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 03:24 PM   #79 
  - Would you consider emailing them, HK? n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 02:47 PM   #60 
     - Done, sfexpat  Harvey Korman   Dec-17-08 03:39 PM   #88 
  - Oh great. Big Prop 8 supporter.  ronnykmarshall   Dec-17-08 02:45 PM   #58 
  - Perhaps it's just a bigger bus that Obama has in mind.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 02:59 PM   #66 
     - I hope you're right.  ronnykmarshall   Dec-17-08 03:09 PM   #69 
        - It is why it is most meaningful right after Prop 8, because now is the time  FrenchieCat   Dec-17-08 03:15 PM   #76 
  - A fine bit of American political superficiality on display  BeyondGeography   Dec-17-08 02:51 PM   #64 
  - I tried to warn people here on DU that there was a fundie element to Obama's campaign...  TheGoldenRule   Dec-17-08 02:52 PM   #65 
  - That's because of the fundie element to this country  alwysdrunk   Dec-17-08 03:11 PM   #71 
  - What you are missing here is that fundies do NOT make up the entire population of the U.S.  TheGoldenRule   Dec-17-08 03:20 PM   #78 
     - Far from fringe  alwysdrunk   Dec-17-08 03:30 PM   #85 
        - That's the same one in four that still support George Bush. n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 03:40 PM   #89 
  - Yeah.... if only they would've listened to you, Obama could've been defeated  scheming daemons   Dec-17-08 03:27 PM   #82 
     - Sarah Palin was way scarier to me. nt  TheGoldenRule   Dec-17-08 08:26 PM   #118 
  - This is a brilliant move, unfortunately  alwysdrunk   Dec-17-08 03:07 PM   #68 
  - insulting women and gays  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 03:11 PM   #72 
  - Yes, unfortuantely  alwysdrunk   Dec-17-08 03:56 PM   #92 
  - translation:  musette_sf   Dec-17-08 03:58 PM   #93 
  - It could be a clever thing that he gets the RW/Evangelicals who lean Dem on his Side...  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 06:42 PM   #109 
  - What huge segment of the population?  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 03:26 PM   #80 
     - Sadly it was something like over 45 % who voted McCain/Barbie....  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 08:28 PM   #119 
  - This is seriously, seriously bad.  terrya   Dec-17-08 03:13 PM   #74 
  - Email them. Let's give the feedback Obama asked for. n/t  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 03:27 PM   #81 
  - So, Joseph Lowery is chopped liver now?  blogslut   Dec-17-08 03:32 PM   #87 
  - Well, does the bigot on the front end cancel out the tolerant guy on the back end?  sfexpat2000   Dec-17-08 05:55 PM   #106 
  - See? Obama's not mad about the "cone of silence."  antfarm   Dec-17-08 06:11 PM   #107 
  - How Does Everyone Like Change Now?  lostnotforgotten   Dec-17-08 07:28 PM   #114 
     - Give it a few months after Inauguration...then the Pitch Forks are Ready and Waiting...  KoKo01   Dec-17-08 08:25 PM   #117 
        - Choosing Warren The Day He Is Inaugurated Was Not Wise  lostnotforgotten   Dec-18-08 06:49 AM   #121 
 

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