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Wed Dec-17-08 02:02 PM
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| 10. i am trying to take this calmly |
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but i despise that pious hypocritical Dick, he hates women's freedoms, he hates gays' freedoms, he's a selfish ignorant b@stard, and i believe he will rot in hell for all he has done to continue the polarization of this country. i am very disappointed in BO and his team for doing this. i have been trying to take the high road with some of these appointments that i don't approve of, but this is disgusting pandering. WHY WHY WHY do we have to kiss fundie bigot ignorant @sses, why NOW?
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| -Obama Inauguration: Rick Warren To Deliver Invocation (Press Release of Inaugration Program) |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 01:49 PM |
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Oh yuck! |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 01:52 PM |
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So the fundies have a friend in the White House. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 01:53 PM |
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and he sends his kids to.....PRIVATE school! |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-17-08 01:56 PM |
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I take it you're not gay. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 01:57 PM |
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Get back to me when any of Obama's policies reflect Warren's views. |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-17-08 02:01 PM |
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Like how he opposes marriage equality? |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:01 PM |
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And he has been consistent on that, but he supports civil unions. My point was that he doesn't share |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-17-08 02:05 PM |
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He's basically naming Warren as his pastor, his spiritual confidant. |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:11 PM |
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Uh, where exactly has it been reported that Warren is now his spiritual advisor? |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-17-08 02:12 PM |
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Uh, you didn't read the OP? |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:13 PM |
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So you have an inside source on this? Awesome. Please keep us updated on the behind-the-scenes |
GarbagemanLB |
Dec-17-08 02:17 PM |
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Every time Warren visits the WH--which will be often--I'll post |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:18 PM |
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The symbolism seems pretty clear to me. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:20 PM |
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Tradition |
TechBear_Seattle |
Dec-17-08 03:46 PM |
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Considering all of the issues surrounding his last "spiritual advisor" |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 03:51 PM |
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Whether nor not that will be the case, the choice is still highly significant |
TechBear_Seattle |
Dec-17-08 04:00 PM |
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Your concerns are not founded. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 04:08 PM |
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A 180? nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 04:09 PM |
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A 180 = a complete reversal. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 04:10 PM |
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I get that. But how is this a 180? nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 04:11 PM |
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I'm saying it's not. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 04:14 PM |
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This demonstrates that his stance is the same as it's always been... |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 04:17 PM |
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He supports marriage equivalency. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 04:23 PM |
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No, He doesn't. He supports civil unions. Doesn't want them called "marriage". |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 04:25 PM |
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Honest to god question: what is the difference? |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-17-08 07:16 PM |
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The title matters. nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 07:24 PM |
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How, practically speaking? |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-18-08 07:57 AM |
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Obama is doing a 30, at the widest |
TechBear_Seattle |
Dec-17-08 08:03 PM |
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I might be straight, but I'm not "hopeless" and do not appreciate the label. |
Vash the Stampede |
Dec-18-08 07:56 AM |
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Agreed. n/t |
ChazII |
Dec-17-08 08:44 PM |
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They've pretty much always been Graham |
hileeopnyn8d |
Dec-17-08 04:33 PM |
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If you believe that the people who follow Warren are going to disappear..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:16 PM |
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oh, come on... |
hileeopnyn8d |
Dec-17-08 02:26 PM |
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I volunteered on his campaign. Hardly a "fuck you". |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:32 PM |
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If it didn't signify, there would be no point in doing it. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:36 PM |
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SNAP! |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-17-08 02:47 PM |
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Why pick Rick Warren? |
yardwork |
Dec-17-08 03:28 PM |
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i am as horrified as you are |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:04 PM |
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I'm right there with you on this one. |
Hansel |
Dec-17-08 03:32 PM |
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thank you |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 03:59 PM |
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But the President (elect) |
polmaven |
Dec-17-08 03:12 PM |
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Actually, he opposes marriage equality. nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 03:29 PM |
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I understand, |
polmaven |
Dec-17-08 05:40 PM |
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He's giving a known homophobe a national platform and greater visibility. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-17-08 02:21 PM |
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Not the first time, you know. |
QC |
Dec-17-08 02:24 PM |
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Oh, I remember. |
LeftyMom |
Dec-17-08 02:27 PM |
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and his church supported prop 8 |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-17-08 02:49 PM |
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bwahahaha. |
cali |
Dec-17-08 02:10 PM |
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?? |
Fran Kubelik |
Dec-17-08 03:13 PM |
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Some good stuff on there too |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-17-08 01:54 PM |
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Plus John Williams and Itzhak Perlman... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 01:57 PM |
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dupe |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-17-08 01:54 PM |
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Ironic in that Obama voted against Robert's confirmation. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:01 PM |
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no. it's NOT funny. |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:05 PM |
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It would be one thing if these folks (the Warren type) could simply be ignored |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:11 PM |
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People voting against gay civil rights are mostly older voters. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:24 PM |
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BUT! if Obama gives concessions (which he always said he would) to RW |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 06:37 PM |
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lemons -> Frenchie Cat -> lemonade. |
hay rick |
Dec-17-08 07:31 PM |
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i am trying to take this calmly |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:02 PM |
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Perhaps because when a haters is included, |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:07 PM |
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Frenchie see this thread I started |
wndycty |
Dec-17-08 02:12 PM |
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I sure hope it's about strategy - that guy creeps me out! |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 02:12 PM |
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What strategy makes hate-mongering acceptable? nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:16 PM |
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Maybe he was trying to get the hatemongering fundies to watch... |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 02:21 PM |
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I think that was what he was trying to do... Remember..he said he was all |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 06:50 PM |
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But this isn't really simply inclusion. It's a kind of elevation of this horrible person. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:17 PM |
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Rick Warren is already elevated...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:30 PM |
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Sarah Palin is also elevated in their eyes. Maybe she can be given a spot. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:34 PM |
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The invocation is a powerful ritual to whom? and it matters to whom? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:39 PM |
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You can't argue both that including Warren is important AND |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:44 PM |
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Whatever happened to mainstream Christians? They care about things... |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 02:34 PM |
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Mainstream Christians also are not a group that can't stand Warren..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:41 PM |
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Seems like mainstream (Jesus-like) Christians are losing ground to these whackjobs. |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 02:43 PM |
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agreed |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:34 PM |
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Good idea. I'll do the same instead of this uselessness. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:37 PM |
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I've done the same. nt |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:44 PM |
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Why the surprise? |
S_E_Fudd |
Dec-17-08 02:11 PM |
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For those with short memories.... |
Hell Hath No Fury |
Dec-17-08 02:11 PM |
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Was this really necessary? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:15 PM |
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I'd have done it!! |
mycritters2 |
Dec-17-08 02:17 PM |
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And I bet you would have done a great job. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:18 PM |
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This Warren bit is going to drive right wingers crazy! |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-17-08 02:23 PM |
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It already is. . . |
wndycty |
Dec-17-08 02:25 PM |
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Yes...it wil drive the RW'ers CRAZY! It will have the Cables and FAUX in a TIZZY... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 06:53 PM |
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I'd like to see a snake-handling preacher chosen |
Alhena |
Dec-17-08 02:29 PM |
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Plus, it would be entertaining! |
polichick |
Dec-17-08 02:35 PM |
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They see eye-to-eye on social justice issues? |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-17-08 02:30 PM |
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Hey, I have an Idea! Let's just have everyone hate everyone..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:37 PM |
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Change I Want To See: |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:38 PM |
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So like I said...be free to Hate. Hate them, hate Warren, |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:48 PM |
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ME peace is difficult to achieve |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 02:49 PM |
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You've made my point. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 03:07 PM |
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i did *not* "make your point"! |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 03:09 PM |
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So there is no hope in your opinion...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 03:20 PM |
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my concept of hope |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 03:24 PM |
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Would you consider emailing them, HK? n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 02:47 PM |
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Done, sfexpat |
Harvey Korman |
Dec-17-08 03:39 PM |
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Oh great. Big Prop 8 supporter. |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-17-08 02:45 PM |
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Perhaps it's just a bigger bus that Obama has in mind..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 02:59 PM |
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I hope you're right. |
ronnykmarshall |
Dec-17-08 03:09 PM |
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It is why it is most meaningful right after Prop 8, because now is the time |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-17-08 03:15 PM |
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A fine bit of American political superficiality on display |
BeyondGeography |
Dec-17-08 02:51 PM |
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I tried to warn people here on DU that there was a fundie element to Obama's campaign... |
TheGoldenRule |
Dec-17-08 02:52 PM |
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That's because of the fundie element to this country |
alwysdrunk |
Dec-17-08 03:11 PM |
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What you are missing here is that fundies do NOT make up the entire population of the U.S. |
TheGoldenRule |
Dec-17-08 03:20 PM |
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Far from fringe |
alwysdrunk |
Dec-17-08 03:30 PM |
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That's the same one in four that still support George Bush. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 03:40 PM |
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Yeah.... if only they would've listened to you, Obama could've been defeated |
scheming daemons |
Dec-17-08 03:27 PM |
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Sarah Palin was way scarier to me. nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Dec-17-08 08:26 PM |
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This is a brilliant move, unfortunately |
alwysdrunk |
Dec-17-08 03:07 PM |
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insulting women and gays |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 03:11 PM |
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Yes, unfortuantely |
alwysdrunk |
Dec-17-08 03:56 PM |
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translation: |
musette_sf |
Dec-17-08 03:58 PM |
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It could be a clever thing that he gets the RW/Evangelicals who lean Dem on his Side... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 06:42 PM |
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What huge segment of the population? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 03:26 PM |
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Sadly it was something like over 45 % who voted McCain/Barbie.... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 08:28 PM |
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This is seriously, seriously bad. |
terrya |
Dec-17-08 03:13 PM |
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Email them. Let's give the feedback Obama asked for. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 03:27 PM |
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So, Joseph Lowery is chopped liver now? |
blogslut |
Dec-17-08 03:32 PM |
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Well, does the bigot on the front end cancel out the tolerant guy on the back end? |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 05:55 PM |
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See? Obama's not mad about the "cone of silence." |
antfarm |
Dec-17-08 06:11 PM |
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How Does Everyone Like Change Now? |
lostnotforgotten |
Dec-17-08 07:28 PM |
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Give it a few months after Inauguration...then the Pitch Forks are Ready and Waiting... |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-08 08:25 PM |
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Choosing Warren The Day He Is Inaugurated Was Not Wise |
lostnotforgotten |
Dec-18-08 06:49 AM |
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