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Wed Dec-17-08 09:33 AM
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| 15. Need ice for your Kool Aide? |
| -No "Change" at USDA as Obama Picks Monsanto Shill Vilsack for Ag Secretary |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 08:41 AM |
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S H I T |
OwnedByFerrets |
Dec-17-08 08:44 AM |
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Nice to see Monsanto and Big Ag have a seat at the table |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 08:49 AM |
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I think people are looking for anything right now, his picks mostly have been pragmatic. If this is |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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We're with you. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:01 PM |
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This is very bad news, indeed! nt |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-17-08 08:50 AM |
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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!OH NOESSSS |
BrentTaylor |
Dec-17-08 08:51 AM |
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Again, I tried to tell you guys during the primaries, this is the kind |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 08:52 AM |
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Originally being a Kucinich supporter, I knew where Obama's politics were |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 08:56 AM |
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No, he most certainly won't. But what the hell, when it dawns on |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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Yeah, Obama = Hitler dammit!! :rolleyes:@FolkWhoOverReact |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:42 AM |
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Oh bite me. You can't even get your smilies right. N/T |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 09:53 AM |
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Who were you hoping was elected? |
OhioBlues |
Dec-17-08 01:33 PM |
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I was too |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-17-08 09:57 AM |
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Same sad story here. n/t |
truedelphi |
Dec-17-08 12:44 PM |
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I hate facing the reality of these Corporate Picks. |
truedelphi |
Dec-17-08 12:44 PM |
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It could be trouble, or it could be Brilliant! |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 08:58 AM |
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Not trying to be insulting, but that's really some convoluted rationalization there |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:02 AM |
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It must be my experience working with Juvenile Hall kids. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
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why not appoint Republicans? |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 01:02 PM |
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Republicans are loving Obama's appointments: |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:07 PM |
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that post just made me shiver |
FarceOfNature |
Dec-17-08 01:54 PM |
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The rethuglicans approve. Does anyone need any more proof that there is not gonna be any change? |
TheGoldenRule |
Dec-17-08 02:55 PM |
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He will. What you wrote makes sense, read it again. eom |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 02:30 PM |
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Need ice for your Kool Aide? |
pocoloco |
Dec-17-08 09:33 AM |
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Typical over the top progressive response: my way or else he's Stalin. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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I will too, if Obama was stock his cabinet with 95% DLC'ers or RWingers I'd be concerned but he's... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:44 AM |
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It's trouble |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:26 AM |
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word OG. Agriculture is one area that Obama |
nosmokes |
Dec-17-08 02:23 PM |
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Vilsack was the head of the DLC..and a huge Clinton supporter.. |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:07 AM |
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great pick! Thanks for posting |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
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Nice to see that you support Monsanto and Big Ag over small farmer and the ordinary person |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:30 AM |
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Apparently Obama and Harkin do, too! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:31 AM |
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So any pick that Obama makes is good with you? |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:33 AM |
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so far |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:34 AM |
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So like I said, since you stated that you support Obama |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:36 AM |
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No dodge because "keeping Bush's cabinet" is completely irrelevant |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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Not irrelevant at all |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 10:02 AM |
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to compare Obama's picks to keeping Bush's cabinet is not only irrelevant |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 10:30 AM |
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So then, I'm left to assume that your support for Obama isn't unequivocal |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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that would be a fair assumption, however, he hasn't come close to disappointing me |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 11:53 AM |
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Obama hasn't disappointed a lot of people. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:15 PM |
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damn right I'm in good company. Seems the fringe left is in the minority... again. |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:19 PM |
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not relevant my friend |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 02:46 PM |
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completely relevant - these aren't Republican quotes, this is a vast majority of people |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:57 PM |
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ah, come on |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:40 PM |
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Nice quick edit there |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:34 AM |
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why do leftists always believe edits are nefarious? lol. I elaborated on my point. lol! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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edited to correct a typo |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:43 AM |
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damn it! ANOTHER typo.. edited again! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:43 AM |
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He does that - He thinks it's clever and only you will notice |
Dragonfli |
Dec-17-08 01:47 PM |
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lol! It is so clever to use a function built into DU... |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:20 PM |
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This pro-corporate stance brought to you by |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:45 AM |
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Obama and Harkin! Woo hoo... moocher moocher moocher! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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Go team DLC! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:47 AM |
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Thank you, PRESIDENT Barack Obama! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:48 AM |
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Go Monsanto! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:49 AM |
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Thank you, PRESIDENT Barack Obama! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:49 AM |
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OT: Were you raised in a puppy mill? |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:50 AM |
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You always go off topic and attack ... I quess that's a sign of ADD |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:53 AM |
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GO TEAM OBAMA! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:55 AM |
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YES! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:59 AM |
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of course wylddlc likes another corporate shill in the cabinet. Hooray triangulation! nt |
Double_Talk_Express |
Dec-17-08 02:57 PM |
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what I love is watching the heads explode |
wyldwolf |
Dec-18-08 05:06 AM |
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Let me add this, I like Obama, and most of his picks.. |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:50 AM |
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+1, I'd like it to be a buncha leftist Marxist but o well... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 10:44 AM |
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That fucking Obama once again selecting science over faith. |
ieoeja |
Dec-17-08 09:54 AM |
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The selection of Chu was awesome.. finally back to science! |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:58 AM |
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Let's take a look at the science |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 10:24 AM |
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That's pretty much what Monsanto says. Science! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 10:34 AM |
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Isn't that a good thing? |
gravity |
Dec-17-08 10:36 AM |
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Watch the video and see what you think. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 10:41 AM |
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yes and no |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 02:03 PM |
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You forget to mention that Monsanto is against letting the consumer have a choice |
Raineyb |
Dec-17-08 10:54 AM |
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consumer choice |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 06:41 PM |
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Of course. Unfortunately the USDA hasn't really been interested in public good or food safety. |
Raineyb |
Dec-18-08 10:51 AM |
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that is just not true |
Two Americas |
Dec-18-08 02:23 PM |
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That was my point. The USDA of late hasn't been concerned with the public good or |
Raineyb |
Dec-18-08 03:08 PM |
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much of the work |
Two Americas |
Dec-18-08 03:45 PM |
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I'm not sure I could only blame Republicans for this |
Raineyb |
Dec-19-08 10:50 AM |
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true |
Two Americas |
Dec-19-08 11:26 PM |
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My complaint is not the above issues you attempt to marginalize. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:24 PM |
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Plus his name sounds like "Aflac" |
Alter Ego |
Dec-17-08 10:30 AM |
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* |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-17-08 10:40 AM |
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Not too surprising, unfortunately. This country still thinks the agrobusiness industry is more |
Mass |
Dec-17-08 10:55 AM |
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LOL |
Hanse |
Dec-17-08 11:13 AM |
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This is one of my pet issues, so bad news for me. |
OnionPatch |
Dec-17-08 11:14 AM |
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Breaking the corporate agriculture firewall is towards the bottom of Obama's to-do list |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:26 AM |
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How many picks |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:28 AM |
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What is the trend in your opinion? |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:40 AM |
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Your question makes me think of this flag as a Bingo! card: |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 11:46 AM |
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You mean that his cabinet picks are influenced by corporations? |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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Oh, exactly. It's just a matter of which ones. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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See flag below |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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It was never on his list |
gravity |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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I wouldn't go so far as to say its not a problem |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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"Iraq and other foreign policy issues are also obviously going to come first " |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:32 PM |
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Define anti-war |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:37 PM |
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I have some bad news to go with the rest. |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-17-08 02:51 PM |
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Roosevelt had a Republican Treasury Secretary... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:17 PM |
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Exactly what... |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 04:26 PM |
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His complaint seems to be that the economic team are centrists |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:36 PM |
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Calling them "centrists" sanitizes the issue. |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 05:25 PM |
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Acheson resigned at the end of 1933 |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 06:06 PM |
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Acheson resigned at the end of 1933... |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 10:13 PM |
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This would be the one choice I would have to take Obama to the woodshed on |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-17-08 11:35 AM |
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get "the world according to monsanto" on DVD- |
biermeister |
Dec-17-08 11:45 AM |
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"The Future of Food" was depressing enough. |
TWriterD |
Dec-18-08 11:28 PM |
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thanks for the info- I'll check it out |
biermeister |
Dec-19-08 07:33 AM |
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You're welcome. |
TWriterD |
Dec-19-08 09:46 PM |
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The US Forest Service is part of the USDA and I have not |
PufPuf23 |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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Vilsack will have to take his commands, as Hillary does, from Pres. Barack Obama |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 12:06 PM |
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That's not how it works |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 12:11 PM |
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That's exactly how it works |
ProSense |
Dec-17-08 01:57 PM |
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In that case, there is no problem with lobbyists, either. |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-17-08 02:54 PM |
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No, |
ProSense |
Dec-17-08 03:50 PM |
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not true |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 12:56 PM |
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True, because President-Elect Obama said so himself, as ProSense has already ably argued. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 04:59 PM |
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well, there ya go |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:50 PM |
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Go ahead, question all YOU want. I am confident in Barack's abilities to lead his team. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 07:13 PM |
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Obama also said he would vote AGAINST Immunity for Telecoms, and |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 08:31 PM |
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So, you must live here: |
blindpig |
Dec-17-08 03:28 PM |
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No, I trust Barack lead and manage his team well, as he did during the entire election. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 04:55 PM |
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anti-democratic |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:54 PM |
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LOL! You cast confidence in proven leadership as anti-democratic? |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 07:11 PM |
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I was a Clark supporter |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 07:44 PM |
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I don't like that pick at all - |
OhioBlues |
Dec-17-08 01:34 PM |
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Should I be surprised? |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-17-08 01:43 PM |
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Has it ever crossed the mind of ANY of you haters that your "favorite" picks ... |
elkston |
Dec-17-08 01:50 PM |
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Effective at what? |
blindpig |
Dec-17-08 04:02 PM |
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Yeah Congressman Pinko McRabbleRouser lost his race |
Moochy |
Dec-18-08 08:32 AM |
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Even worse than I had expected - and I expected corporate shill based on the trend /nt |
Dragonfli |
Dec-17-08 02:09 PM |
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It will take a revolution..... |
bbgrunt |
Dec-17-08 03:25 PM |
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A truly bitter pill to swallow, this one. oh well. n/t |
nomaco-10 |
Dec-17-08 03:27 PM |
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Good God. Very disappointing. :( nt |
glitch |
Dec-17-08 04:22 PM |
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Go go GMO! |
boppers |
Dec-17-08 04:53 PM |
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The invention of the nuclear bomb was science too. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-17-08 06:48 PM |
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That's kind of like a Godwin's Rule for discussions on science. |
Hanse |
Dec-17-08 07:14 PM |
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It's one invention mankind would have been much better off without. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-17-08 07:48 PM |
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It's Not Science Driving GM / GE Food - Not Unless You're Talking Economic & Marketing Science |
Crisco |
Dec-18-08 03:49 PM |
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Obama Kills Hope for Change Naming Vilsack to USDA |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 09:08 PM |
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Monsanto is Satan BUT, there isn't a Farmer or Ag Pro in this country that doesn't deal with them |
happychatter |
Dec-18-08 05:09 AM |
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Completely false |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-18-08 09:00 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-18-08 08:44 PM |
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The truth hurts eh? |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-18-08 11:18 PM |
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I have come to the conclusion that Obama is too young to be bold with these |
Tumbulu |
Dec-20-08 01:48 AM |
#145 |
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