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Wed Dec-17-08 09:07 AM
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| 9. Vilsack was the head of the DLC..and a huge Clinton supporter.. |
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But let me give him this much credit.. (putting on helmet to protect myself from the incoming brick bats).. He was the first Democratic governor in Iowa in 30 years and did help move the state blue, which in turn gave us(yes Iowan here) the majority to launch Barack Obama.
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| -No "Change" at USDA as Obama Picks Monsanto Shill Vilsack for Ag Secretary |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 08:41 AM |
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S H I T |
OwnedByFerrets |
Dec-17-08 08:44 AM |
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Nice to see Monsanto and Big Ag have a seat at the table |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 08:49 AM |
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I think people are looking for anything right now, his picks mostly have been pragmatic. If this is |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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We're with you. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:01 PM |
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This is very bad news, indeed! nt |
Peace Patriot |
Dec-17-08 08:50 AM |
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THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!OH NOESSSS |
BrentTaylor |
Dec-17-08 08:51 AM |
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Again, I tried to tell you guys during the primaries, this is the kind |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 08:52 AM |
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Originally being a Kucinich supporter, I knew where Obama's politics were |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 08:56 AM |
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No, he most certainly won't. But what the hell, when it dawns on |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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Yeah, Obama = Hitler dammit!! :rolleyes:@FolkWhoOverReact |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:42 AM |
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Oh bite me. You can't even get your smilies right. N/T |
acmavm |
Dec-17-08 09:53 AM |
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Who were you hoping was elected? |
OhioBlues |
Dec-17-08 01:33 PM |
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I was too |
spiritual_gunfighter |
Dec-17-08 09:57 AM |
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Same sad story here. n/t |
truedelphi |
Dec-17-08 12:44 PM |
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I hate facing the reality of these Corporate Picks. |
truedelphi |
Dec-17-08 12:44 PM |
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It could be trouble, or it could be Brilliant! |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 08:58 AM |
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Not trying to be insulting, but that's really some convoluted rationalization there |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:02 AM |
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It must be my experience working with Juvenile Hall kids. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
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why not appoint Republicans? |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 01:02 PM |
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Republicans are loving Obama's appointments: |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:07 PM |
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that post just made me shiver |
FarceOfNature |
Dec-17-08 01:54 PM |
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The rethuglicans approve. Does anyone need any more proof that there is not gonna be any change? |
TheGoldenRule |
Dec-17-08 02:55 PM |
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He will. What you wrote makes sense, read it again. eom |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 02:30 PM |
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Need ice for your Kool Aide? |
pocoloco |
Dec-17-08 09:33 AM |
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Typical over the top progressive response: my way or else he's Stalin. |
NYC_SKP |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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I will too, if Obama was stock his cabinet with 95% DLC'ers or RWingers I'd be concerned but he's... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 09:44 AM |
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It's trouble |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:26 AM |
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word OG. Agriculture is one area that Obama |
nosmokes |
Dec-17-08 02:23 PM |
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Vilsack was the head of the DLC..and a huge Clinton supporter.. |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:07 AM |
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great pick! Thanks for posting |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:17 AM |
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Nice to see that you support Monsanto and Big Ag over small farmer and the ordinary person |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:30 AM |
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Apparently Obama and Harkin do, too! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:31 AM |
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So any pick that Obama makes is good with you? |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:33 AM |
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so far |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:34 AM |
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So like I said, since you stated that you support Obama |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:36 AM |
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No dodge because "keeping Bush's cabinet" is completely irrelevant |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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Not irrelevant at all |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 10:02 AM |
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to compare Obama's picks to keeping Bush's cabinet is not only irrelevant |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 10:30 AM |
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So then, I'm left to assume that your support for Obama isn't unequivocal |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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that would be a fair assumption, however, he hasn't come close to disappointing me |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 11:53 AM |
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Obama hasn't disappointed a lot of people. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:15 PM |
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damn right I'm in good company. Seems the fringe left is in the minority... again. |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:19 PM |
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not relevant my friend |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 02:46 PM |
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completely relevant - these aren't Republican quotes, this is a vast majority of people |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:57 PM |
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ah, come on |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:40 PM |
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Nice quick edit there |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 09:34 AM |
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why do leftists always believe edits are nefarious? lol. I elaborated on my point. lol! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:40 AM |
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edited to correct a typo |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:43 AM |
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damn it! ANOTHER typo.. edited again! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:43 AM |
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He does that - He thinks it's clever and only you will notice |
Dragonfli |
Dec-17-08 01:47 PM |
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lol! It is so clever to use a function built into DU... |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 02:20 PM |
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This pro-corporate stance brought to you by |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:45 AM |
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Obama and Harkin! Woo hoo... moocher moocher moocher! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:46 AM |
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Go team DLC! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:47 AM |
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Thank you, PRESIDENT Barack Obama! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:48 AM |
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Go Monsanto! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:49 AM |
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Thank you, PRESIDENT Barack Obama! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:49 AM |
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OT: Were you raised in a puppy mill? |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:50 AM |
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You always go off topic and attack ... I quess that's a sign of ADD |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:53 AM |
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GO TEAM OBAMA! |
Moochy |
Dec-17-08 09:55 AM |
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YES! |
wyldwolf |
Dec-17-08 09:59 AM |
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of course wylddlc likes another corporate shill in the cabinet. Hooray triangulation! nt |
Double_Talk_Express |
Dec-17-08 02:57 PM |
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what I love is watching the heads explode |
wyldwolf |
Dec-18-08 05:06 AM |
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Let me add this, I like Obama, and most of his picks.. |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:50 AM |
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+1, I'd like it to be a buncha leftist Marxist but o well... |
uponit7771 |
Dec-17-08 10:44 AM |
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That fucking Obama once again selecting science over faith. |
ieoeja |
Dec-17-08 09:54 AM |
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The selection of Chu was awesome.. finally back to science! |
peacetrain |
Dec-17-08 09:58 AM |
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Let's take a look at the science |
MadHound |
Dec-17-08 10:24 AM |
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That's pretty much what Monsanto says. Science! |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 10:34 AM |
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Isn't that a good thing? |
gravity |
Dec-17-08 10:36 AM |
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Watch the video and see what you think. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 10:41 AM |
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yes and no |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 02:03 PM |
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You forget to mention that Monsanto is against letting the consumer have a choice |
Raineyb |
Dec-17-08 10:54 AM |
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consumer choice |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 06:41 PM |
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Of course. Unfortunately the USDA hasn't really been interested in public good or food safety. |
Raineyb |
Dec-18-08 10:51 AM |
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that is just not true |
Two Americas |
Dec-18-08 02:23 PM |
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That was my point. The USDA of late hasn't been concerned with the public good or |
Raineyb |
Dec-18-08 03:08 PM |
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much of the work |
Two Americas |
Dec-18-08 03:45 PM |
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I'm not sure I could only blame Republicans for this |
Raineyb |
Dec-19-08 10:50 AM |
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true |
Two Americas |
Dec-19-08 11:26 PM |
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My complaint is not the above issues you attempt to marginalize. |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:24 PM |
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Plus his name sounds like "Aflac" |
Alter Ego |
Dec-17-08 10:30 AM |
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* |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-17-08 10:40 AM |
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Not too surprising, unfortunately. This country still thinks the agrobusiness industry is more |
Mass |
Dec-17-08 10:55 AM |
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LOL |
Hanse |
Dec-17-08 11:13 AM |
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This is one of my pet issues, so bad news for me. |
OnionPatch |
Dec-17-08 11:14 AM |
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Breaking the corporate agriculture firewall is towards the bottom of Obama's to-do list |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:26 AM |
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How many picks |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:28 AM |
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What is the trend in your opinion? |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:40 AM |
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Your question makes me think of this flag as a Bingo! card: |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 11:46 AM |
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You mean that his cabinet picks are influenced by corporations? |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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Oh, exactly. It's just a matter of which ones. |
sfexpat2000 |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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See flag below |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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It was never on his list |
gravity |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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I wouldn't go so far as to say its not a problem |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 11:56 AM |
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"Iraq and other foreign policy issues are also obviously going to come first " |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 01:32 PM |
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Define anti-war |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:37 PM |
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I have some bad news to go with the rest. |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-17-08 02:51 PM |
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Roosevelt had a Republican Treasury Secretary... |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:17 PM |
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Exactly what... |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 04:26 PM |
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His complaint seems to be that the economic team are centrists |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 04:36 PM |
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Calling them "centrists" sanitizes the issue. |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 05:25 PM |
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Acheson resigned at the end of 1933 |
Hippo_Tron |
Dec-17-08 06:06 PM |
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Acheson resigned at the end of 1933... |
anaxarchos |
Dec-17-08 10:13 PM |
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This would be the one choice I would have to take Obama to the woodshed on |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Dec-17-08 11:35 AM |
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get "the world according to monsanto" on DVD- |
biermeister |
Dec-17-08 11:45 AM |
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"The Future of Food" was depressing enough. |
TWriterD |
Dec-18-08 11:28 PM |
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thanks for the info- I'll check it out |
biermeister |
Dec-19-08 07:33 AM |
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You're welcome. |
TWriterD |
Dec-19-08 09:46 PM |
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The US Forest Service is part of the USDA and I have not |
PufPuf23 |
Dec-17-08 11:49 AM |
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Vilsack will have to take his commands, as Hillary does, from Pres. Barack Obama |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 12:06 PM |
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That's not how it works |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 12:11 PM |
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That's exactly how it works |
ProSense |
Dec-17-08 01:57 PM |
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In that case, there is no problem with lobbyists, either. |
JoseGaspar |
Dec-17-08 02:54 PM |
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No, |
ProSense |
Dec-17-08 03:50 PM |
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not true |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 12:56 PM |
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True, because President-Elect Obama said so himself, as ProSense has already ably argued. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 04:59 PM |
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well, there ya go |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:50 PM |
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Go ahead, question all YOU want. I am confident in Barack's abilities to lead his team. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 07:13 PM |
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Obama also said he would vote AGAINST Immunity for Telecoms, and |
bvar22 |
Dec-17-08 08:31 PM |
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So, you must live here: |
blindpig |
Dec-17-08 03:28 PM |
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No, I trust Barack lead and manage his team well, as he did during the entire election. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 04:55 PM |
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anti-democratic |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 05:54 PM |
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LOL! You cast confidence in proven leadership as anti-democratic? |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-17-08 07:11 PM |
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I was a Clark supporter |
Two Americas |
Dec-17-08 07:44 PM |
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I don't like that pick at all - |
OhioBlues |
Dec-17-08 01:34 PM |
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Should I be surprised? |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-17-08 01:43 PM |
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Has it ever crossed the mind of ANY of you haters that your "favorite" picks ... |
elkston |
Dec-17-08 01:50 PM |
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Effective at what? |
blindpig |
Dec-17-08 04:02 PM |
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Yeah Congressman Pinko McRabbleRouser lost his race |
Moochy |
Dec-18-08 08:32 AM |
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Even worse than I had expected - and I expected corporate shill based on the trend /nt |
Dragonfli |
Dec-17-08 02:09 PM |
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It will take a revolution..... |
bbgrunt |
Dec-17-08 03:25 PM |
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A truly bitter pill to swallow, this one. oh well. n/t |
nomaco-10 |
Dec-17-08 03:27 PM |
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Good God. Very disappointing. :( nt |
glitch |
Dec-17-08 04:22 PM |
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Go go GMO! |
boppers |
Dec-17-08 04:53 PM |
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The invention of the nuclear bomb was science too. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-17-08 06:48 PM |
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That's kind of like a Godwin's Rule for discussions on science. |
Hanse |
Dec-17-08 07:14 PM |
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It's one invention mankind would have been much better off without. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-17-08 07:48 PM |
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It's Not Science Driving GM / GE Food - Not Unless You're Talking Economic & Marketing Science |
Crisco |
Dec-18-08 03:49 PM |
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Obama Kills Hope for Change Naming Vilsack to USDA |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-17-08 09:08 PM |
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Monsanto is Satan BUT, there isn't a Farmer or Ag Pro in this country that doesn't deal with them |
happychatter |
Dec-18-08 05:09 AM |
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Completely false |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-18-08 09:00 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-18-08 08:44 PM |
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The truth hurts eh? |
Orwellian_Ghost |
Dec-18-08 11:18 PM |
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I have come to the conclusion that Obama is too young to be bold with these |
Tumbulu |
Dec-20-08 01:48 AM |
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