Smarmie Doofus
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Mon Dec-15-08 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
| 13. It's an appointment, actually. If memory serves, the state party... |
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... cleared the field for Clinton in 2000 so that there would be no primary fight. In effect, appointing her as the candidate.
Yes, it's true she then had to run against a republican. But the arguments against Kennedy would pretty much apply across the board to Clinton.
And ... there's one HUGE difference: Kennedy is a legit New Yorker. Clinton was a transplant.
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 29 (D) state senators in New York.... none of 'em are Caroline Kennedy. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 10:13 PM |
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as if that matters |
TexasObserver |
Dec-15-08 10:15 PM |
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brush it off |
tabatha |
Dec-15-08 10:15 PM |
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The same logic would have held true for Hillary. No? nt |
PaulHo |
Dec-15-08 10:15 PM |
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a vote and a nomination are a little different. i dont mind caroline kennedy |
lionesspriyanka |
Dec-15-08 10:17 PM |
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It's an appointment, actually. If memory serves, the state party... |
PaulHo |
Dec-15-08 10:33 PM |
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Kennedy was actually voted upon, even if it was an easy election and a weak candidate. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 11:57 PM |
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Or RFK. |
jobycom |
Dec-15-08 10:22 PM |
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Hillary actually had people vote for her. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 10:39 PM |
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And all those people you listed didn't win a state-wide election. |
Drunken Irishman |
Dec-15-08 10:50 PM |
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You are correct. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 11:03 PM |
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Winning an election does not mean you're better suited for the job. |
Drunken Irishman |
Dec-16-08 03:33 AM |
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And Kennedy hasn't won any election. |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 12:19 AM |
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She has served your state. |
Drunken Irishman |
Dec-16-08 03:35 AM |
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Do you think she would have a chance at getting appointed |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 04:54 PM |
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29 people who would STILL be rookies in the US Senate |
DJ13 |
Dec-15-08 10:16 PM |
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They'd be rookies in the US senate, yes. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 10:35 PM |
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That would be fine with me. |
Beacool |
Dec-16-08 12:41 AM |
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No thank you. I'm delighted by the idea of the getting HRC |
RhodaGrits |
Dec-16-08 09:37 AM |
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Any who are statewide known? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-15-08 10:16 PM |
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And...???? |
Rabrrrrrr |
Dec-15-08 10:16 PM |
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I live in NY, and I would vote for Caroline Kennedy. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-15-08 10:18 PM |
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30 Helens agree. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-15-08 10:20 PM |
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I'm gonna have to consult the "Daves I know" on this, and get back to y'all! |
dicksteele |
Dec-16-08 12:36 AM |
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Such silliness. |
Old Crusoe |
Dec-15-08 10:22 PM |
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I doubt all 29 are good and qualified |
Jake3463 |
Dec-15-08 10:27 PM |
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You are correct. |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-15-08 10:45 PM |
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When you have 29 of anything, some of it will likely suck ass. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 10:53 PM |
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And I bet some of them are smart, qualified individuals |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 12:23 AM |
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This stupid Govenor appoitnment thing I feel has outlived its simplicity |
Jake3463 |
Dec-16-08 04:33 AM |
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ask Louise Slaughter - she apparently supports Caroline |
onenote |
Dec-16-08 02:43 PM |
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Where are you from? |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 04:53 PM |
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I now live in the DC area. I lived in New York in the 70s and still have a lot of family there. |
onenote |
Dec-16-08 05:38 PM |
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You need to come to grips with the fact that if Caroline wants the seat, |
Tarheel_Dem |
Dec-15-08 10:43 PM |
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"... if Caroline wants the seat, it's hers." So you acknowledge cronyism? nepotism? |
ShortnFiery |
Dec-16-08 12:41 AM |
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WTF do you care? Like the o.p., she won't be representing you. |
Tarheel_Dem |
Dec-16-08 09:58 PM |
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What part of NY is Portland in? |
Bleachers7 |
Dec-15-08 10:45 PM |
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Last I checked, this was about a US senate seat. |
boppers |
Dec-15-08 11:07 PM |
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Yeah! If you aren't in NY, then you shouldn't even have an opinion! |
AndrewP |
Dec-15-08 11:22 PM |
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Yay for them! |
Lex |
Dec-15-08 10:47 PM |
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A New Yorker who knows some of the Senators, not all equally worthy. Many unworthy. |
MarjorieG |
Dec-15-08 10:50 PM |
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The NYS Legislature is not a treasure trove of great leadership, unfortunately |
Lavender Brown |
Dec-15-08 10:53 PM |
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And all 29 can |
verges |
Dec-15-08 11:27 PM |
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i finally get it |
swampg8r |
Dec-16-08 12:05 AM |
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Huh? |
boppers |
Dec-16-08 12:18 AM |
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Biden was only on a city council when asked to run in 1972 |
Jennicut |
Dec-16-08 12:21 AM |
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Do you really think Caroline is an "outsider?" |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 12:25 AM |
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Yeah, I guess not. She has not been a politician her whole life but has grown up in it. |
Jennicut |
Dec-16-08 12:27 AM |
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That would probably be better. |
gmudem |
Dec-16-08 12:34 AM |
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How the hell do you know the appt would be based on her family name? |
Tarheel_Dem |
Dec-16-08 10:07 PM |
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This is where we intersect with Blago and corruption. |
boppers |
Dec-16-08 12:35 AM |
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Chelsea would be fine with me in like 10 years, she is a bit young |
Jennicut |
Dec-16-08 12:44 AM |
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heck... Moynihan couldn't even get elected |
whistler162 |
Dec-16-08 12:40 AM |
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thank you for conclusively establishing that having run for office isn't a guarantee |
onenote |
Dec-16-08 12:25 AM |
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DUmmy award for worst post in this day of very DUmb posts. |
sofedupwithbush |
Dec-16-08 12:35 AM |
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Don't worry, I just posted another. |
boppers |
Dec-16-08 12:53 AM |
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Yeah, I saw it. Nice work. |
sofedupwithbush |
Dec-16-08 12:54 AM |
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Hm. Being congratulated on being a DUmmy... |
boppers |
Dec-16-08 01:02 AM |
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Excellent point. But too many of our fellow DUers want to believe in the FANTASY of Camelot. |
ShortnFiery |
Dec-16-08 12:36 AM |
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Okay.... lets have Paterson appoint Bruno! |
whistler162 |
Dec-16-08 12:39 AM |
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I remember being told a Senator shouldn't be prez, because it had |
babylonsister |
Dec-16-08 01:20 AM |
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How many of them are black? |
Radical Activist |
Dec-16-08 04:48 AM |
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Ruben Diaz is black. He also is adamantly anti-gay, anti-abortion and votes with the conservative |
onenote |
Dec-16-08 02:19 PM |
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I'm glad the only thing that's important is "party loyalty". Seems to be the only thing that matters |
Double_Talk_Express |
Dec-16-08 06:41 AM |
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more qualified? per who's and which criteria? n/t |
sohndrsmith |
Dec-16-08 10:56 AM |
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29 people who are no doubt beholden to this special interest or that . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Dec-16-08 02:01 PM |
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so you'd rather have Ruben Diaz Sr than Caroline Kennedy? |
onenote |
Dec-16-08 02:18 PM |
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Actually, I wouldn't trust a lot of those people with a shiny nickel. |
TheWraith |
Dec-16-08 04:33 PM |
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I am willing to bet Kennedy could beat any one of those 29 in an election |
MN Against Bush |
Dec-16-08 05:09 PM |
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Being elected does not equal being qualified. Bush was elected, more or less. |
polichick |
Dec-16-08 05:12 PM |
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Governor Paterson? Is that you? |
SidneyCarton |
Dec-16-08 05:34 PM |
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