Smarmie Doofus
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Sat Dec-06-08 07:41 AM
Response to Reply #29 |
| 34. If one's contact with ordinary people is limited to.... |
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Edited on Sat Dec-06-08 07:46 AM by PaulHo
... nannys, household servants and the like, one is likely to have an understanding of average people that is, shall we say, *limited*. (Compound that with the *extremely* sheltered life that was imposed on her by her post- 1963 circumstance.)
That seems to have been *generally* true of Ms. Kennedy. There's a rumor on the upper East side of NYC that she's "aloof" . Doesn't make her a war criminal; just means that she might not be as equipped to represent the interests of average NYers as someone who comes from a more typical background.
Don't know enough about the upbringings of the rest of the people you mention to comment productively on the comparison. Gore was a senator's and went to private school. I'm not sure that puts him in the same boat, psychologically, as the Kennedys. Kerry married money... suggesting he didn't have that much of his own. So, ditto re.his mind-set.
Everybody "can care about others." ( except some people in prisons/ psychiatric institutions) That bar's pretty low. We might look for a higher bar in a US Senator.
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Why I support Caroline Kennedy in the Senate |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 07:49 PM |
#0 |

Second that. |
Fridays Child |
Dec-05-08 07:54 PM |
#1 |

Third that |
DebbieCDC |
Dec-05-08 07:56 PM |
#2 |

I agree... |
movonne |
Dec-05-08 07:57 PM |
#3 |

As a NY resident I'm open to the idea - I'm sure we could do alot worse |
dmordue |
Dec-05-08 07:59 PM |
#4 |

And it doesn't hurt that Sen. Ted Kennedy has been her mentor |
eleny |
Dec-05-08 08:02 PM |
#5 |
 
Having another Senator Kennedy to campaign for us and raise money |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:12 PM |
#8 |

Also... |
union_maid |
Dec-05-08 08:04 PM |
#6 |
 
That's something I can get behind in 8 years |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:11 PM |
#7 |
  
Sadly, I can't go there. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-05-08 08:19 PM |
#10 |
 
so our Senate seat is not to represent us, it's just a stepping stone? nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 08:17 PM |
#9 |

I'd like a President Feingold |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:22 PM |
# |

I was asking those same questions back in 2000 |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-05-08 08:22 PM |
#12 |

yes, that is a little bit of progress. nt |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 08:23 PM |
#13 |

so she's a better choice than many elected progressive Democrats because she's famous |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 08:20 PM |
#11 |
 
She's better for the party as a whole |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:24 PM |
#14 |

So none of that is about representing New York in the Senate. |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 08:35 PM |
#15 |

It is good for NY |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:39 PM |
#16 |

So Caroline would be more effective at making political deals |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 08:44 PM |
#18 |
 
Hillary chose THE cabinet post |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 08:50 PM |
#19 |
 
Why do you suppose she's on the list? |
eleny |
Dec-05-08 08:51 PM |
#20 |

This year I kept reading about how she hadn't been very involved in politics |
JoeIsOneOfUs |
Dec-05-08 09:48 PM |
#24 |

She's on the board of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 09:55 PM |
#27 |

Really? What things could she get done in the Senate that no |
cali |
Dec-06-08 07:42 AM |
#35 |

Gravitas |
Jake3463 |
Dec-06-08 01:09 PM |
#43 |

I agree with all your points great post. |
Top Cat |
Dec-05-08 08:41 PM |
#17 |

The NYS DEM party produces mediocrities. |
PaulHo |
Dec-05-08 09:10 PM |
#21 |
 
Bobby Kennedy represented average people quite well |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 09:14 PM |
#22 |

Reagan was progressive and became..... |
PaulHo |
Dec-05-08 10:49 PM |
#28 |

So by your standards, the Kennedys, Kerry and Gore couldn't care about others... |
Alexander |
Dec-05-08 10:51 PM |
#29 |
 
If one's contact with ordinary people is limited to.... |
PaulHo |
Dec-06-08 07:41 AM |
#34 |

Wealth doesn't create assholes |
Jake3463 |
Dec-06-08 12:53 PM |
#41 |

Who the hell cares |
Jake3463 |
Dec-05-08 11:30 PM |
#31 |

FDR was an anomaly. A "traitor to his class" as the economic ... |
PaulHo |
Dec-06-08 07:24 AM |
#33 |

Ok, |
Jake3463 |
Dec-06-08 12:51 PM |
#40 |

It's hard to make a convincing argument... |
Alexander |
Dec-06-08 07:13 PM |
#48 |

I saw her speak at UCLA at the beginning of the Obama Campaign |
goclark |
Dec-05-08 09:36 PM |
#23 |
 
I saw that, too! I was so |
zidzi |
Dec-06-08 07:18 PM |
#49 |

Yes, it was a great day to see the passion behind their |
goclark |
Dec-06-08 09:40 PM |
#52 |

She certainly be better than Clinton. And this nervousness of dynasties is just stupid. nt |
jrockford |
Dec-05-08 09:49 PM |
#25 |
 
how do you know she'd be better than Clinton? |
cali |
Dec-06-08 12:17 PM |
#37 |

The world isn't fucking black and white |
Jake3463 |
Dec-06-08 01:16 PM |
#44 |

Someone will be appointed. |
H2O Man |
Dec-06-08 07:08 PM |
#46 |

She works for me. Her or Cuomo are both good picks. (nt) |
w4rma |
Dec-05-08 09:53 PM |
#26 |

Yep. Plus, I think her dad was in politics, too. |
Old Crusoe |
Dec-05-08 10:54 PM |
#30 |

I am not adverse.... but..... |
whistler162 |
Dec-06-08 12:23 AM |
#32 |

These are process reasons. |
TayTay |
Dec-06-08 12:05 PM |
#36 |
 
This is what I mean: Alberto Mora, recepient of the Profiles in Courage Award |
TayTay |
Dec-06-08 12:25 PM |
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In addition to her considerable achievements |
Hope2006 |
Dec-06-08 12:30 PM |
#39 |
 
Honestly |
Jake3463 |
Dec-06-08 01:02 PM |
#42 |

She had supported |
H2O Man |
Dec-06-08 07:10 PM |
#47 |

And she's not in anybody's pocket. |
bottomtheweaver |
Dec-06-08 06:46 PM |
#45 |

Nominated. |
H2O Man |
Dec-06-08 07:26 PM |
#50 |

I endorse Caroline Kennedy for the U.S. Senate |
ZombyWoof |
Dec-06-08 08:00 PM |
#51 |