EffieBlack
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Thu Dec-04-08 11:13 AM
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| 18. Clinton took a lot of heat for the pardon at the time. So did Eric Holder |
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So why now is Holder the only one being attacked for it and not a word is being said about Hillary or Bill Clinton's role?
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| -Why is Eric Holder taking all of the heat for the Rich pardon when this was done by the Clintons? |
EffieBlack |
Dec-04-08 10:26 AM |
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The president makes the ultimate decision. Can anyone stop a presidential pardon? |
Jennicut |
Dec-04-08 10:27 AM |
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That pardon was rushed past Holder by Clinton....Clinton misled all those working on that pardon |
blm |
Dec-04-08 10:30 AM |
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Where do you get this information from? |
leftynyc |
Dec-04-08 11:28 AM |
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You need proof Rich was a named figure in IranContra and BCCI? Read the reports. |
blm |
Dec-04-08 11:39 AM |
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Presidents protect eachother |
leftynyc |
Dec-04-08 11:50 AM |
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Well, you seem to ignore many facts that don't fit your preferred storylines about Clintons...so... |
blm |
Dec-04-08 11:54 AM |
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You know why? Come on. |
redstate_democrat |
Dec-04-08 10:31 AM |
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BINGO! |
EffieBlack |
Dec-04-08 10:33 AM |
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yup, you got it. |
ginnyinWI |
Dec-04-08 10:42 AM |
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I made the same observation in a thread yesterday |
ellacott |
Dec-04-08 10:36 AM |
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It is the media. They kept their mouths |
asjr |
Dec-04-08 10:41 AM |
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the msm can go to hell. the reagan / bush pardons have been covering up their own criminal acts |
bullimiami |
Dec-04-08 10:42 AM |
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Huffington Post: Eric Holder "More Deeply Involved" in Rich pardon than supporters acknowledge |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 10:42 AM |
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No, it doesn't |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 10:52 AM |
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Do people even know who Mark Rich is or for what offenses he was pardoned? |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 11:26 AM |
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Yes, people know who Marc Rich |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 11:45 AM |
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Oh that's right...he's "the guy Clinton pardoned" |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 12:00 PM |
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Did Clinton pardon him? n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 12:04 PM |
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You're a well established long-time Clinton...'unappreciator' shall we say... |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 12:12 PM |
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You want to pretend that Rich is in the news for a reason other than the pardon |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 12:16 PM |
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People here can pretend all they care to, much of Europe & Israel thinks us dumb... |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 01:08 PM |
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Trying to whitewash Rich's criminal activities is ridiculous |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 01:16 PM |
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You just don't get it. I'm not the one who did, many others already have... |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 01:58 PM |
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Get off of it - American laws count |
karynnj |
Dec-04-08 02:35 PM |
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the 'guy' who worked for GHWBush's criminal IranContra and BCCI operations. |
blm |
Dec-04-08 12:44 PM |
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No one is suggesting that it is not convoluted |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 01:35 PM |
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That is FICTION |
karynnj |
Dec-04-08 02:42 PM |
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Opening MORE eyes is the BEST chance we have to preserve any semblance of accountability |
blm |
Dec-04-08 03:18 PM |
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Agreed... |
bridgit |
Dec-04-08 06:59 PM |
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He did and it is hypertext that takes you to a lot of information on him. |
karynnj |
Dec-04-08 02:24 PM |
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No what doesn't? |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 11:41 AM |
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Sorry, "no it doesn't" provide the answer to the OP's question. n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-04-08 11:47 AM |
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Ahh |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 11:58 AM |
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The Clintons? |
dmallind |
Dec-04-08 10:45 AM |
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so when they are supposedly |
swampg8r |
Dec-04-08 10:57 AM |
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What they sell themselves as and what they are are different things |
dmallind |
Dec-04-08 11:12 AM |
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What they sell themselves as and what they are are different things |
swampg8r |
Dec-04-08 11:16 AM |
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And any politician who is an exception spring to mind? NT |
dmallind |
Dec-04-08 11:29 AM |
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harry truman |
swampg8r |
Dec-04-08 11:32 AM |
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I'd like a link to where |
leftynyc |
Dec-04-08 11:31 AM |
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Would she be getting the SoS post had she just been a Senator |
wienerdoggie |
Dec-04-08 12:48 PM |
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That didn't answer my question |
leftynyc |
Dec-04-08 01:10 PM |
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Hillary Clinton and her brothers were very involved in this pardon |
EffieBlack |
Dec-04-08 11:12 AM |
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Same goes to people who don't like Hillary though |
BreatheOnMe |
Dec-04-08 11:16 AM |
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Nope. It's racism. |
redstate_democrat |
Dec-04-08 11:13 AM |
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What Was It When Hillary Clinton and Bill Were Slammed for the Pardon |
Crisco |
Dec-04-08 12:51 PM |
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Plenty of people here would call it sexism. |
redstate_democrat |
Dec-04-08 12:54 PM |
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Sorry |
Crisco |
Dec-04-08 12:59 PM |
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What is his stance on "Gitmo, MJ, and a whole host of legitimate issues"? |
redstate_democrat |
Dec-04-08 01:08 PM |
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People Were Using Rich as a Smear Against Hillary Clinton |
Crisco |
Dec-04-08 01:26 PM |
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No it isn't. |
redstate_democrat |
Dec-04-08 01:39 PM |
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Justice. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-04-08 02:38 PM |
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More distraction from the REAL reason Rich was pardoned in the first place - FOR Poppy Bush. |
blm |
Dec-04-08 03:21 PM |
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I still don;t see it |
dmallind |
Dec-04-08 01:47 PM |
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I still don;t see it |
dmallind |
Dec-04-08 01:47 PM |
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yeah...Bill Clinton never takes any heat. bwaaahahaha. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Dec-04-08 10:55 AM |
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Clinton took a lot of heat for the pardon at the time. So did Eric Holder |
EffieBlack |
Dec-04-08 11:13 AM |
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Clinton never took the APPROPRIATE heat for Rich pardon. Media focused on Denise Rich |
blm |
Dec-04-08 11:46 AM |
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who is attacking Holder? Democrats? To hell with them. |
IndianaJones |
Dec-04-08 11:54 AM |
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Fox has been in a twit from the first day his name came to light |
OHdem10 |
Dec-04-08 10:58 AM |
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Because Holder will be in pretty much the same position as AG. |
ieoeja |
Dec-04-08 11:09 AM |
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the black guy/gal is always the first to be blamed |
Blu Dahlia |
Dec-04-08 11:55 AM |
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I remember when they were the first ones to die in the movies...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 01:01 PM |
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I have a serious problem with Holder's involvement with the Rich pardon |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-04-08 01:01 PM |
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I Don't Care About Holder, Either Way |
Crisco |
Dec-04-08 01:10 PM |
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"The Clintons?" |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-04-08 01:50 PM |
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He is facing a confirmation hearing, and yes he had a role in it. |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-04-08 02:04 PM |
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I thinkthere are two reasons - 1) it is related to the AG job |
karynnj |
Dec-04-08 02:15 PM |
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I don't understand why he is getting heat for it when they never mention Scooter Libby |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-04-08 02:23 PM |
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The Marc Rich pardon was pretty fucking bad. |
Sebastian Doyle |
Dec-04-08 02:33 PM |
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Whatever. nt |
cat_girl25 |
Dec-04-08 02:50 PM |
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I really don't get this. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Dec-04-08 02:36 PM |
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There is no heat... its just a talking point n/t |
Every Man A King |
Dec-04-08 03:45 PM |
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I have been wondering the very same thing. |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-04-08 05:54 PM |
#73 |
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