| 43. Quite visible here, unfortunately. Great post. |
|
Thank you so very much FC. You make life here quite enjoyable.  |
| -It feels a bit like the primaries at DU, except that Obama's opponent is invisible. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 02:05 PM |
#0 |
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Any feedback? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 02:25 PM |
#1 |
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yes: 8 recs so far. |
tandot |
Dec-03-08 02:29 PM |
#2 |
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make that 9 |
maddezmom |
Dec-03-08 02:30 PM |
#3 |
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Make that 81. N/T |
DerekJ |
Dec-04-08 10:11 AM |
#163 |
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My only gripe would be with the tax rollback on the wealthy. |
WakingLife |
Dec-03-08 02:42 PM |
#11 |
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Rolling back the Bush Tax Cuts versus allowing them to expire |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 02:50 PM |
#12 |
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I think what you say is spot on. If they will expire, then fine. |
truedelphi |
Dec-04-08 12:20 AM |
#129 |
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Certainly, the economic situation is a total mess...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:42 AM |
#142 |
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Another DU'er gets to the heart of why |
truedelphi |
Dec-05-08 04:31 PM |
#192 |
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Yep. Well done., with a reasonable tone throughout |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-03-08 03:05 PM |
#18 |
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Thanks Tom! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:17 PM |
#21 |
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Hey Frenchie |
Tom Rinaldo |
Dec-03-08 09:23 PM |
#76 |
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Obama didn't campaign as a progressive, why paint him as one now? |
leftstreet |
Dec-03-08 02:34 PM |
#4 |
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Yeah, we should all just roll over. After all, Obama is the decider now. |
WakingLife |
Dec-03-08 02:38 PM |
#8 |
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I think that the tone that I have attempted to set was much less |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 02:53 PM |
#14 |
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I believe that Obama did campaign as a progressive....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:00 PM |
#16 |
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RE: the last point. |
WakingLife |
Dec-03-08 02:34 PM |
#5 |
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There is no need to denigrate each other or to denigrate Barack Obama..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:13 PM |
#19 |
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true |
Two Americas |
Dec-03-08 04:39 PM |
#44 |
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I'm not sure why you thought I was talking about you. |
WakingLife |
Dec-04-08 07:18 AM |
#149 |
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In what I've seen... |
Shiver |
Dec-03-08 03:30 PM |
#26 |
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I've personally read quite a few thread telling people that they shouldn't |
WakingLife |
Dec-04-08 07:16 AM |
#148 |
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In contrast... |
Shiver |
Dec-04-08 07:27 AM |
#150 |
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Great work as always, Frenchie. K&R. |
bunnies |
Dec-03-08 02:36 PM |
#6 |
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I always like it when you like it. :) |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 06:01 PM |
#48 |
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awwww |
bunnies |
Dec-04-08 07:35 AM |
#151 |
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Great Post and thank you....as a newer du'er |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 02:37 PM |
#7 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-03-08 02:39 PM |
#9 |
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totally disagree with your comment.....unless you were being |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 02:41 PM |
#10 |
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Of course, none of what you are saying has anything to do with what I posted |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 02:51 PM |
#13 |
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did you even read the O.P.? |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-03-08 03:25 PM |
#24 |
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What do you call it when 92% of Dems and 51% of Repubs want universal health care |
eridani |
Dec-03-08 02:58 PM |
#15 |
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Universal Healthcare and Single Payer are not the same thing. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:05 PM |
#17 |
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Most people don't pay attention to wonky details, so it would have been pointless-- |
eridani |
Dec-03-08 03:58 PM |
#38 |
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Obama campaigned on expanding access to health insurance |
dflprincess |
Dec-03-08 10:11 PM |
#81 |
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Actually, Obama campaigned on Universal Health Insurance.... |
bvar22 |
Dec-03-08 11:15 PM |
#107 |
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God this place is driving me nuts. |
walldude |
Dec-03-08 03:16 PM |
#20 |
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I often wonder who this magical flaming liberal alternative was |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Dec-03-08 03:19 PM |
#22 |
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Which is why the title of my op is..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:24 PM |
#23 |
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Proud to rec this post. |
Elrond Hubbard |
Dec-03-08 03:27 PM |
#25 |
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the invisible enemy |
Two Americas |
Dec-03-08 03:34 PM |
#27 |
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Ok.....If I am being supressive and destructive and fighting primary battles |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:40 PM |
#30 |
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same as always |
Two Americas |
Dec-03-08 04:04 PM |
#39 |
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I think you are way off the mark..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 04:14 PM |
#40 |
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not a matter of differing opinions |
Two Americas |
Dec-03-08 04:28 PM |
#42 |
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What he's doing is moving the center to the DLC's right agenda --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 08:24 PM |
#60 |
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every argument she brought up has been made here |
mkultra |
Dec-03-08 10:24 PM |
#88 |
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correct |
Two Americas |
Dec-04-08 11:42 AM |
#165 |
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BEST POST OF THE MONTH |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 07:38 AM |
#152 |
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Big Kick & Rec, and good replies, too. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-03-08 03:34 PM |
#28 |
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This is a great article, FrenchieCat. |
MPK |
Dec-03-08 03:38 PM |
#29 |
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"counterfeit astonishment" - exactly! Perfect way to put it, you've given me my phrase for the week. |
apocalypsehow |
Dec-03-08 03:41 PM |
#31 |
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Thanks! |
MPK |
Dec-03-08 03:43 PM |
#32 |
| -
and I appreciate your posts as well. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:46 PM |
#33 |
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VERY well put, Frenchie. |
SeattleGirl |
Dec-03-08 03:49 PM |
#34 |
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Great job, Frenchie |
WesDem |
Dec-03-08 03:54 PM |
#35 |
| -
Thank you my dear sista! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 03:56 PM |
#36 |
| -
Aw, I miss you, too, hon |
WesDem |
Dec-03-08 03:57 PM |
#37 |
| -
There you go, talking about facts again |
Mark E. Smith |
Dec-03-08 04:27 PM |
#41 |
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I will argue that no one has stopped talking as of yet...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 05:12 PM |
#45 |
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Quite visible here, unfortunately. Great post. |
JenniferZ |
Dec-03-08 04:31 PM |
#43 |
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Fact #6 depends on your definition of "progressive" |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-03-08 05:23 PM |
#46 |
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Yours sounds as good of an opinion as any other........ |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 05:44 PM |
#47 |
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Yes, any trajectory different from Bush's can be called change |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-03-08 06:16 PM |
#50 |
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Whether a slogan or real, We'll have to agree to disagree until time does tell. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 06:24 PM |
#51 |
| -
I didn't mean it in a negative way or anything |
Lilith Velkor |
Dec-03-08 06:49 PM |
#55 |
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Oh well yeah.... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 08:15 PM |
#59 |
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Rec'd. The most intelligent, reasonable analysis posted on DU today. |
phleshdef |
Dec-03-08 06:14 PM |
#49 |
| -
Big K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Dec-03-08 06:35 PM |
#52 |
| -
K & R excellent post with one exception |
Mithreal |
Dec-03-08 06:39 PM |
#53 |
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There are a lot of examples that I can't find....but here are a couple |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 06:51 PM |
#56 |
| -
Lesson from History..... |
Lisa0825 |
Dec-03-08 06:39 PM |
#54 |
| -
misplaced ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 08:02 PM |
#57 |
| -
I think you meant to reply to the OP. nt |
Lisa0825 |
Dec-03-08 08:45 PM |
#65 |
| -
Thank you -- on both counts ...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 08:57 PM |
#67 |
| -
You're welcome. |
Lisa0825 |
Dec-03-08 09:00 PM |
#70 |
| -
Responded to poster who then deleted because post was misplaced! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 08:58 PM |
#68 |
| -
I moved it - see #66 below ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 09:01 PM |
#72 |
| -
Fair enough.....and bookmarked/journal'd |
Catchawave |
Dec-03-08 08:10 PM |
#58 |
| -
Come On People! |
humbled_opinion |
Dec-03-08 08:26 PM |
#61 |
| -
You might not realize this, but he's just made enough decisions to sink himself -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 08:58 PM |
#69 |
| -
(Sighing)..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 09:03 PM |
#73 |
| -
IMO, this OP is a joke -- a big fat DLC joke -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 09:05 PM |
#75 |
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You post is a joke....a big fat GOP joke |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:27 PM |
#110 |
| -
You'd like to deny DLC exists ... won't happen ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 11:54 PM |
#119 |
| -
Most excellent post. I have all but stopped coming to DU over this purist crap |
FLDem5 |
Dec-03-08 08:36 PM |
#62 |
| -
Thanks for all the hard work you put into this. |
Veganistan |
Dec-03-08 08:39 PM |
#63 |
| -
Great post...k/r |
Uzybone |
Dec-03-08 08:41 PM |
#64 |
| -
Good attempt at excuses ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 08:56 PM |
#66 |
| -
Hence the difference between your ideals and my realism...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 09:01 PM |
#71 |
| -
We've all been there -- all you have to do is remove age restrictions from Medicare --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 09:04 PM |
#74 |
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...a PS to say, are we not as able as Europeans to get National Single-Payer Health care--??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 09:29 PM |
#77 |
| -
DLC my ass. Obama in the end, will not be labeled |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 09:32 PM |
#78 |
| -
Right now, it looks like Obama has been hiding his DLC label --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 10:11 PM |
#82 |
| -
Yeah....his entire life. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 10:37 PM |
#92 |
| -
Unfortunately, DLC/GOP is a Democratic Party label --- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 10:55 PM |
#102 |
| -
You tire me with your labels...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:05 PM |
#104 |
| -
Are you trying to suggest no DLC in Democratic Party -- or HRC not DLC leadership--???? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 11:08 PM |
#105 |
| -
I'm suggesting that you are simple. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:30 PM |
#111 |
| -
DLC discussions are obviously something you want to avoid .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-03-08 11:51 PM |
#118 |
| -
It has no bearing on the matter at this time. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:54 PM |
#120 |
| -
I discuss the DLC always -- what could be more important ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-04-08 12:00 AM |
#124 |
| -
Sometimes People Change Their Minds |
Crisco |
Dec-05-08 08:55 AM |
#189 |
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My favorite part of that was... |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 10:37 PM |
#91 |
| -
if it's not free, my family can't afford it |
pollo poco |
Dec-04-08 03:19 AM |
#138 |
| -
There will be subsidies based on income level...... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:38 AM |
#141 |
| -
Huh? I love how you throw that DLC label around... |
stillcool47 |
Dec-03-08 11:24 PM |
#109 |
| -
We voted for a PARTY which is supposed to be different from the GOP |
cottonseed |
Dec-04-08 12:31 PM |
#168 |
| -
Susan Rice, Samantha Power "PROGRESSIVE"??? oy. nt |
inna |
Dec-03-08 09:49 PM |
#79 |
| -
Please continue..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 09:59 PM |
#80 |
| -
i'll make an effort to produce links, but as far as i know.... |
inna |
Dec-03-08 10:19 PM |
#84 |
| -
Yes, please find the links....... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 10:24 PM |
#87 |
| -
what's your beef with Samantha Power? |
stillcool47 |
Dec-03-08 10:59 PM |
#103 |
| -
I was here the day after the last election |
marlakay |
Dec-03-08 10:13 PM |
#83 |
| -
DU will be Obama's biggest detractor - they will do it under the guises of "patriotism"... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 10:20 PM |
#85 |
| -
I don't fucking understand how some are this bent out of shape |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 10:33 PM |
#89 |
| -
IMO, a many had a strong preference for another candidate... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 10:36 PM |
#90 |
| -
Got It! I was thinking that these people were never on board anyway... |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 10:38 PM |
#94 |
| -
:) Just always keep in mind: *they* are allowed to criticize, but those who think like you appear... |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 10:44 PM |
#96 |
| -
I believe you...sad but true. n/t |
firedupdem |
Dec-03-08 10:46 PM |
#99 |
| -
Three questions. |
Forkboy |
Dec-03-08 10:37 PM |
#93 |
| -
Thank you for perfectly exemplifying. And I apologize ahead of time for my love of nazism. |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 10:43 PM |
#95 |
| -
Damn...how you got that out of those questions is amazing. |
Forkboy |
Dec-03-08 10:45 PM |
#98 |
| -
I'll answer.... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 10:52 PM |
#100 |
| -
She or he knows all of that. The questions were disingenuous. No point in playing. |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 10:54 PM |
#101 |
| -
No, I actually assumed you were mature enough to handle a few simple questions. |
Forkboy |
Dec-03-08 11:40 PM |
#115 |
| -
(shrug) Paranoid nazis need love too. |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-03-08 11:49 PM |
#116 |
| -
Pretty sad that someone had to answer for you, and all you have is this stuff. |
Forkboy |
Dec-04-08 12:00 AM |
#123 |
| -
Far be it for me to tell you what to think. |
BlooInBloo |
Dec-04-08 12:02 AM |
#125 |
| -
Far be it from you being able to. |
Forkboy |
Dec-04-08 05:00 PM |
#182 |
| -
Not really... |
LanternWaste |
Dec-04-08 02:02 PM |
#178 |
| -
And yet Frenchie got a totally respectful answer from me, as would have bloo. |
Forkboy |
Dec-04-08 04:59 PM |
#181 |
| -
Are these valid questions (open to more than one truthful answer...) |
LanternWaste |
Dec-05-08 08:02 AM |
#188 |
| -
Thank you, Frenchie. |
Forkboy |
Dec-03-08 11:38 PM |
#114 |
| -
recd, you win on the internetz |
mkultra |
Dec-03-08 10:23 PM |
#86 |
| -
Nicely done, FC. |
BushDespiser12 |
Dec-03-08 10:45 PM |
#97 |
| -
Great post Frenchie.... |
stillcool47 |
Dec-03-08 11:10 PM |
#106 |
| -
Very nice.....in particular, that first one. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:32 PM |
#113 |
| -
I dont always agree with you, but I admire this post of yours. You're making an intelligent argument |
BigBearJohn |
Dec-03-08 11:16 PM |
#108 |
| -
Thanks! I appreciate your comment. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:31 PM |
#112 |
| -
Another Kick and Recommend. |
Pirate Smile |
Dec-03-08 11:50 PM |
#117 |
| -
I was trying for levity, but did get one poster who tempted my ire..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-03-08 11:58 PM |
#122 |
| -
You did a great job....Unfortunately, I cannot handle that shit so |
firedupdem |
Dec-04-08 12:04 AM |
#127 |
| -
Thanks for posting this. |
Bette Noir |
Dec-03-08 11:57 PM |
#121 |
| -
At least a week or two! LOL! |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:02 AM |
#126 |
| -
K&R This administration will be far more than the sum of it's parts. |
Seldona |
Dec-04-08 12:11 AM |
#128 |
| -
Thank you Frenchie, for all your work. |
political_Dem |
Dec-04-08 12:39 AM |
#130 |
| -
Summer and Geithner had a role and so did others. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 01:03 AM |
#131 |
| -
Fair enough. |
political_Dem |
Dec-04-08 01:21 AM |
#132 |
| -
I don't know if you read the OP that I wrote....but I believe that is myth#5? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:31 AM |
#139 |
| -
I understand your position. It is passionate and very clearly put. |
political_Dem |
Dec-04-08 04:17 AM |
#145 |
| -
Thanks, FrenchieCat. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-04-08 01:42 AM |
#133 |
| -
Good post. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:34 AM |
#140 |
| -
All we have seen so far is some cabinet picks and they are not impressive. |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-04-08 02:03 AM |
#134 |
| -
The tea leaves weren't looking that good back in October of 2007 for him either. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:45 AM |
#143 |
| -
Actually, the tea leaves looked really good for him in oct 2007 |
Milo_Bloom |
Dec-04-08 11:02 AM |
#164 |
| -
An excellent summary! |
CreekDog |
Dec-04-08 02:20 AM |
#135 |
| -
Barack lost me prior to the election when he voted for the 700B bailout for his banker buddies. |
threadkillaz |
Dec-04-08 02:36 AM |
#136 |
| -
So you don't really get to be part of this discussion..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 03:48 AM |
#144 |
| -
Great message, thanks. |
suzie |
Dec-04-08 03:02 AM |
#137 |
| -
if they push for oversight of the multii trillion bankbailout they are real, if not they are crooks |
natrat |
Dec-04-08 05:41 AM |
#146 |
| -
Deleted message |
Name removed |
Dec-04-08 06:31 AM |
#147 |
| -
Thanks for the sanity Frenchiecat (nt) |
Autonomy |
Dec-04-08 08:01 AM |
#153 |
| -
YEAH WOOOO INAUGUARATION BABY! WOOO! Can't wait. =) |
cooolandrew |
Dec-04-08 08:52 AM |
#154 |
| -
I think I'll just wait and see what actually happens. You can say |
deaniac21 |
Dec-04-08 09:00 AM |
#155 |
| -
Like you, I'm really surprised at the numbers of people who |
pipi_k |
Dec-04-08 09:05 AM |
#156 |
| -
It's very difficult to hold his feet to the fire without criticizing him. |
Orsino |
Dec-04-08 01:00 PM |
#176 |
| -
I have to disagree with your characterization of Obama's stance on the Bush tax cuts |
Time for change |
Dec-04-08 09:11 AM |
#157 |
| -
Anyone with an iota of common sense would have to disagree with her characterization of it |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 09:35 AM |
#160 |
| -
What irks me the most about this whole thing... |
ElboRuum |
Dec-04-08 09:21 AM |
#158 |
| -
The biggest myth is the spin you put on everything & how you try to justify it with even more spin |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 09:26 AM |
#159 |
| -
I didn't realize that you didn't support our President Elect., Barack Obama |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:23 PM |
#166 |
| -
Nothing like revealing your bitterness by lying about me just because I showed you're a hypocrite |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 12:35 PM |
#169 |
| -
You are being more personal with me than is required, and I'm not going for that. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:46 PM |
#171 |
| -
As always, you can dish it out but you just can't take it |
mtnsnake |
Dec-04-08 12:57 PM |
#174 |
| -
The replier has a point which you are avoiding. |
f the letter |
Dec-05-08 10:56 AM |
#190 |
| -
*Obama's* Opponent? |
Crisco |
Dec-04-08 09:36 AM |
#161 |
| -
I'm not sure what that even means. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:27 PM |
#167 |
| -
Nicely done and here is Rec #80 although there are many here |
elocs |
Dec-04-08 10:05 AM |
#162 |
| -
Many of us haven't had a winner since before we started posting on the Internet..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:37 PM |
#170 |
| -
Obama's opponent is very visible. |
Orsino |
Dec-04-08 12:48 PM |
#172 |
| -
Thank you for your judgment on this..... |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-04-08 12:55 PM |
#173 |
| -
I don't think any of us sees it clearly, yet. |
Orsino |
Dec-04-08 12:57 PM |
#175 |
| -
K & R! |
jonestonesusa |
Dec-04-08 01:09 PM |
#177 |
| -
Excellent thread, thank you, FrenchieCat! I'm too late to Rec, darn it. |
sohndrsmith |
Dec-04-08 02:08 PM |
#179 |
| -
Speaking as an early Obama critic and Hillary supporter... |
Deep13 |
Dec-04-08 03:08 PM |
#180 |
| -
Sorry I was too late to recommend this thread! |
Laurab |
Dec-04-08 06:20 PM |
#183 |
| -
#94 n/t |
guruoo |
Dec-04-08 08:31 PM |
#184 |
| -
Thank you for the post |
davidthegnome |
Dec-04-08 08:55 PM |
#185 |
| -
How can you accuse an invisible entity of racism frenchie? |
Lirwin2 |
Dec-04-08 10:39 PM |
#186 |
| -
I don't know, have I? |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-05-08 02:30 AM |
#187 |
| -
I don't know, have you? |
Lirwin2 |
Dec-05-08 02:51 PM |
#191 |
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