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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 09:27 PM
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96. First off, you never replace a good Defense Secretary at the start of a new Administration
You allow for about a year overlap. Gates came in 2007 AFTER Rumsfeld was gone and he's actually been quite successful. We're in a two front war, that's a position we can afford to take our time with. Anyone who thought we'd be out of Iraq in one year is completely delusional. It will take us at least three years to completely leave.
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  -Gates To Keep The Reins Of War Anarpeace  Nov-25-08 06:23 PM   #0 
  - WHAT. THE. FUCK?  liberalhistorian   Nov-25-08 06:26 PM   #1 
  - "I want to pull out of Iraq as quickly and safely as possible,  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:10 PM   #17 
     - Gates was a bi-partison choice.  Labors of Hercules   Nov-25-08 07:30 PM   #29 
        - He is a hawk  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 07:52 PM   #32 
           - Dude. You just claimed that Wes Clark is more qualified than Robert Gates.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:56 PM   #36 
              - How is it false?  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:03 PM   #44 
                 - I just explained how it was literally, factually, objectively false. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:11 PM   #49 
                    - What in his resume then, makes him not a hawk? nt  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:28 PM   #70 
                       - You are lacking in understanding  anigbrowl   Nov-25-08 08:50 PM   #84 
                          - I lack understanding?  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 09:24 PM   #95 
                             - Let's start with this and go from there, shall we?  Labors of Hercules   Nov-25-08 09:32 PM   #99 
                             - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-25-08 09:34 PM   #100 
  - Is Obama going to allow Gates to keep his neocon deputy Gordon England  IndianaGreen   Nov-25-08 06:27 PM   #2 
  - Curiously, I find no source for this statement but you.  anigbrowl   Nov-25-08 09:39 PM   #104 
  - And the war continues.So much bull shit,we have been had  az chela   Nov-25-08 06:31 PM   #3 
  - Drama much  ccharles000   Nov-25-08 06:35 PM   #4 
  - much.  cali   Nov-25-08 06:37 PM   #6 
  - No kidding Charles, you nailed it  davidpdx   Nov-25-08 06:55 PM   #8 
     - Gates is head of the Carlyle group along with the bushs  az chela   Nov-25-08 06:58 PM   #10 
     - You need to stop doing the freakout dance  davidpdx   Nov-25-08 07:04 PM   #12 
     - no he wasn't.  cali   Nov-25-08 07:09 PM   #16 
     - Now you're just making shit up. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:10 PM   #18 
        - pulling out all the boogeymen. Who gives a shit if it's true? It's scary.  cali   Nov-25-08 07:23 PM   #26 
     - The Carlyle White House  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 07:06 PM   #15 
  - Oh please. These guys carry out the orders of the President.  BrentTaylor   Nov-25-08 06:37 PM   #5 
  - General Wesley Clark was better qualified NT  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 07:11 PM   #19 
     - General Wesley Clark is currently ineligible. Why should I  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:12 PM   #20 
     - lol. Gates is not eligible.  cali   Nov-25-08 07:15 PM   #21 
  - I hope you weren't under the impression he was going to pull out on 1/21/09.  MPK   Nov-25-08 06:58 PM   #9 
  - Robert Gates Promoted and Financed Osama Bin Laden  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 06:54 PM   #7 
  - oh please. op-ed news is as reliable as worldnut daily  cali   Nov-25-08 07:17 PM   #22 
  - Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.  Clear Blue Sky   Nov-25-08 07:04 PM   #11 
  - Yeah the same old same old. n/t  wisteria   Nov-25-08 08:02 PM   #43 
  - Get these warmongers like Gates outta here-yes, that includes Hillary.  InAbLuEsTaTe   Nov-25-08 07:04 PM   #13 
  - A pretty good transitional choice, if you ask me.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:06 PM   #14 
  - ... how long til Wes Clark is eligible?  Myrina   Nov-25-08 07:17 PM   #23 
  - yes, he's a placeholder and I believe Obama has said it's  cali   Nov-25-08 07:21 PM   #25 
  - I'm fine with it if he's a placeholder  mvd   Nov-25-08 07:23 PM   #27 
  - Gee, I wonder how the Iraqi people feel about a slower withdrawal.  Zhade   Nov-25-08 07:55 PM   #35 
     - I'm sure someone has done polls that you could find and use to bolster your point. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:58 PM   #38 
     - I prefer an orderly but steady withdrawal  mvd   Nov-25-08 08:07 PM   #47 
     - The troops should leave Iraq now nt  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:24 PM   #64 
        - Do you suggest they just start walking? nt  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:27 PM   #69 
           - Yes nt  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:31 PM   #74 
              - LOL. Nice satire.  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:32 PM   #76 
  - I think in 2010 General Wesley Clark will be eligible NT  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 07:27 PM   #28 
  - OBAMA=COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF  anonymous171   Nov-25-08 07:19 PM   #24 
  - Obama is an elected unofficial and he can be unelected if he loses our trust  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:14 PM   #51 
     - Oh, has he now?  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:15 PM   #52 
     - Wait four years.  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:17 PM   #54 
        - So if he continues to be the left-leaning centrist he ran as,  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:19 PM   #57 
        - Less than 4 years? how are you planning to get him out  cali   Nov-25-08 08:27 PM   #68 
           - I intend to be a thorn in his side and bad mouth him as much as possible for that  wisteria   Nov-25-08 08:45 PM   #80 
              - lol. pathetic.  cali   Nov-25-08 09:28 PM   #98 
              - Really? And who do you suggest will be  liberalhistorian   Nov-25-08 09:37 PM   #102 
              - Oh noes. I bet that's going to lead to a major strategic re-alignment.  anigbrowl   Nov-25-08 09:41 PM   #106 
     - Maybe you should change your sigline.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-25-08 08:21 PM   #58 
     - Maybe you're right. (n/t)  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:22 PM   #62 
     - lol. yeah, you and your two buddies.  cali   Nov-25-08 08:28 PM   #71 
     - Dems already calling for impeachment? LOL (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-25-08 08:30 PM   #72 
     - Fuck, he's not even in office.  anonymous171   Nov-25-08 08:37 PM   #77 
        - Then he isn't commander-in-chief is he.  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:40 PM   #78 
        - He will be president in a couple months, which means he will be commander-in-chief  anonymous171   Nov-25-08 08:44 PM   #79 
        - Well, hey now, according to  liberalhistorian   Nov-25-08 09:41 PM   #105 
  - can't wait to see Dems defend this neocon  amitta   Nov-25-08 07:49 PM   #30 
  - I don't recall Gates being a neocon, actually. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:52 PM   #33 
  - welcome to DU  cali   Nov-25-08 08:06 PM   #45 
  - Looks like you didn't have to wait long.  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:10 PM   #48 
     - So...if you can't read those posts, how do you know they're apologetics?  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:16 PM   #53 
        - I only put trolls on ignore. Oh and that reminds me.  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 08:18 PM   #55 
        - You layin on your back, lookin at the roof of the church. Preacher tellin' the truth and it hurts.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:21 PM   #60 
        - If you click on "printer friendly format" up there on the top above the OP...  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:18 PM   #56 
  - Is it too soon to start calling him Papa Doc?  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 07:50 PM   #31 
  - Oh for fuck's sake, it burns, it burns.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-25-08 07:53 PM   #34 
  - No fucking kidding.  liberalhistorian   Nov-25-08 09:43 PM   #107 
  - You're going full retard.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 07:56 PM   #37 
  - Occam Bandage FTW!!!  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-25-08 07:59 PM   #39 
  - I already said I don't expect you to get it.  dailykoff   Nov-25-08 07:59 PM   #40 
  - +1  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:00 PM   #41 
  - my tagline. just for you, sweetie.  cali   Nov-25-08 08:07 PM   #46 
     - and B*a*c* as well.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-25-08 08:12 PM   #50 
  - Just dandy.I am thrilled about all the new faces and progressive action that will be taken.  wisteria   Nov-25-08 08:01 PM   #42 
  - Obama only changed the name of the White House...  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:21 PM   #59 
     - "Obama, like Bush will be laughed at by most of the world leaders"  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 08:22 PM   #61 
     - Oh c'mon.  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:25 PM   #65 
     - I never heard of them until you mentioned it nt  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 08:48 PM   #82 
        - Well you know what Papa Tomato said to Baby Tomato...  MPK   Nov-25-08 08:51 PM   #85 
     - Who's that trip-trapping on my bridge?  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-25-08 08:26 PM   #66 
     - can I guess?  cali   Nov-25-08 08:32 PM   #75 
        - I think Billy Goat Gruff has come out of  liberalhistorian   Nov-25-08 09:46 PM   #109 
     - lol.  cali   Nov-25-08 08:31 PM   #73 
     - I agree and he is making huge mistakes even as he tries to avoid them. n/t  wisteria   Nov-25-08 08:47 PM   #81 
     - bwahaha. and you're just sooo brilliant.  cali   Nov-25-08 08:53 PM   #87 
     - Zzzzz  anigbrowl   Nov-25-08 08:54 PM   #88 
  - Gates is being kept to provide political cover for the withdrawal.  chieftain   Nov-25-08 08:24 PM   #63 
  - Correct. n/t  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 08:26 PM   #67 
  - Maybe, but I highly doubt it. This is being pushed so the base doesn't get  wisteria   Nov-25-08 08:49 PM   #83 
  - speak for yourself please, and don't take it on yourself to speak for others  cali   Nov-25-08 08:52 PM   #86 
  - What I have seen from Team Obama.  chieftain   Nov-25-08 09:10 PM   #91 
  - What is this "we" shit?  jaredh   Nov-25-08 09:12 PM   #92 
     - You Democrats should try listening to us...  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 09:39 PM   #103 
        - What a fascinating post. Somehow Democrats aren't liberal.  chieftain   Nov-25-08 09:56 PM   #111 
  - I doubt it  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 09:07 PM   #90 
  - Who is the they that want perpetual war? Are you really including  chieftain   Nov-25-08 09:14 PM   #93 
     - No  Anarpeace   Nov-25-08 09:45 PM   #108 
  - Could you please clarify  Orwellian_Ghost   Nov-25-08 10:00 PM   #112 
  - "Gates To Keep The Reins Of War." No. He wont.  Undercurrent   Nov-25-08 09:05 PM   #89 
  - I really don't have a problem with it. Gates wasn't involved in starting this war.  kwenu   Nov-25-08 09:18 PM   #94 
  - First off, you never replace a good Defense Secretary at the start of a new Administration  RollWithIt   Nov-25-08 09:27 PM   #96 
  - Anything that Bush appointed should be done away with. I want all traces of Bush gone.  Captive America   Nov-25-08 09:28 PM   #97 
  - OMG we will be stuck in Iraq for 100 years! Obama sucks!!!!!  Jennicut   Nov-25-08 09:47 PM   #110 
  - Thank you, Moderators.  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 10:09 PM   #113 
  - Hi guys,  wakemeupwhenitsover   Nov-25-08 10:11 PM   #114 

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