Two Americas
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Tue Nov-25-08 04:27 PM
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There is no right or wrong time for dissent.
If someone said "I hate it the way he vetoed those bills" before he had taken office, that would be crazy, yes. No one is doing that.
What is it specifically that someone has said that you think people should not say?
Why can people not give their opinions about cabinet selections? About things he says?
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| -We do Obama no favors with our silence... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 11:45 AM |
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Dear god. Are we there yet? I dont' think I can stand any more of this. |
Buzz Clik |
Nov-25-08 11:48 AM |
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Don't make me turn this car around! |
NoPasaran |
Nov-25-08 01:56 PM |
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No! We Can't Stop Here!!!! Here's WHY: |
bushmeat |
Nov-25-08 07:30 PM |
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Ha! |
rosesaylavee |
Nov-26-08 07:55 AM |
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thats awesome! glad to help cheer up your day :) |
bushmeat |
Nov-27-08 01:36 PM |
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Oh, this is going to go well. |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-25-08 11:48 AM |
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Give me some, Pookie |
LostinVA |
Nov-25-08 11:50 AM |
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Sure. Would you like a drink to go with it? |
Midlodemocrat |
Nov-25-08 11:51 AM |
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Yummie! |
LostinVA |
Nov-25-08 11:51 AM |
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"Obama is moving to the Right". |
sufrommich |
Nov-25-08 11:52 AM |
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And now we wait.... |
Shiver |
Nov-25-08 11:54 AM |
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so what? |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 01:17 PM |
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Except that Obama hasn't taken any actions yet. What is there |
sufrommich |
Nov-25-08 01:25 PM |
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I am not dissenting |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 01:38 PM |
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No one is being kept from dissenting here on DU. |
sufrommich |
Nov-25-08 02:06 PM |
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yes they are |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 02:39 PM |
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a couple of good examples |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 02:48 PM |
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Remarks like that do not disrupt any thinking person's ability to consider any opinion fairly, nor |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 04:03 PM |
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of course they do |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 04:22 PM |
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Once again, free speech is defnined as agreement. People who are "attacking" you are disagreeing |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 02:39 PM |
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not quite |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 03:19 PM |
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Express dissent about what? |
FlaGranny |
Nov-25-08 02:15 PM |
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when |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 04:27 PM |
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I guess you can |
FlaGranny |
Nov-26-08 11:28 AM |
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I must confess, I haven't noticed a whole lot of reticence |
riqster |
Nov-25-08 11:53 AM |
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The squeaky wheel gets oiled. The right CAN squeak loudly - corpmedia has their mics in front of 'em |
blm |
Nov-25-08 11:54 AM |
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The difference is that when the right gets a bone thrown at them, they howl in delight |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 11:55 AM |
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The right is practiced at getting what they want AND get 90% of the mic time from corpmedia. |
blm |
Nov-25-08 11:58 AM |
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I think that means we need to whine a lot about everything, without even |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 11:54 AM |
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Whining is not what we need. We need organized, coordinated action... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 12:03 PM |
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If uncoordinated, diffuse whining is not what we need, |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 12:05 PM |
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Show me this list |
Shiver |
Nov-25-08 12:12 PM |
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I'm point out that the list is missing. Individuals with families and jobs... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 12:17 PM |
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While not disputing what you say... |
Shiver |
Nov-25-08 04:04 PM |
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The reason that |
Gilligan |
Nov-25-08 01:25 PM |
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Obama has several websites, so getting things to his peeps is not a problem. Why would your |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 02:32 PM |
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Moving To The Right? ROFLMAO!!!!!! What Malarkey. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Nov-25-08 11:54 AM |
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What did he do now? |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-25-08 11:54 AM |
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Announced his plans to follow through on a campaign promise. |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 11:58 AM |
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how controversial! |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-25-08 11:59 AM |
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Why I never! He keeps doing that! |
Juniperx |
Nov-25-08 12:57 PM |
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As President? Absolutely nothing. Apparently, that means he's moved to the right. |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 04:07 PM |
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Maybe you should just get arch supports to deal with that |
Skidmore |
Nov-25-08 11:55 AM |
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PS: Those that represent the Right will, of course, want our silence... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 11:58 AM |
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Are you accusing people who disagree with you... |
Shiver |
Nov-25-08 12:04 PM |
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On an anonymous Internet discussion board? Never. n/t |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 12:05 PM |
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The GOP has nothing better to do than troll DU, apparently. |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 12:06 PM |
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Darn, he's figured us out |
Shiver |
Nov-25-08 12:10 PM |
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What silence?! |
bunnies |
Nov-25-08 11:59 AM |
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That is what I was just wondering.. what silence.. it has been non stop |
peacetrain |
Nov-25-08 04:27 PM |
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We do him no favors with hysterics either. |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 12:02 PM |
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This should be an OP. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 12:05 PM |
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You think this OP is "hysterics"? |
PassingFair |
Nov-25-08 12:12 PM |
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I think most... |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 12:21 PM |
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...and I think people have every right to be alarmed by |
PassingFair |
Nov-25-08 01:10 PM |
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Who exactly said I "liked" the situation? |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 01:30 PM |
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I haven't seen any "shrill" posts. |
PassingFair |
Nov-25-08 01:32 PM |
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Then read more, you're missing a lot. -nt |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 01:39 PM |
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Valid point. |
H2O Man |
Nov-25-08 12:30 PM |
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Thanks. |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 12:32 PM |
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I agree with OB, this should be an OP |
davidpdx |
Nov-25-08 01:18 PM |
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The OP |
Gilligan |
Nov-25-08 01:46 PM |
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Sigh... |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 02:24 PM |
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Agree & disagree. |
H2O Man |
Nov-25-08 12:03 PM |
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That's a fair assessment and one I agree with. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-25-08 01:26 PM |
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agreed |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 07:17 PM |
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If you were to compile a list of those great candidates from the |
midnight |
Nov-25-08 12:14 PM |
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Howard Dean, RFK Jr., and Ray McGovern have been mentioned... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 12:21 PM |
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RFK Jr is a convicted criminal and a believer in woo-woo pseudoscience. |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 12:24 PM |
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Good choices. |
H2O Man |
Nov-25-08 12:33 PM |
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a great representative is what is important |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 07:25 PM |
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Obama was ALWAYS on the right, smears from rethugs notwithstanding: good article from The Nation: |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 12:16 PM |
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This is exactly what I was talking about... |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 12:25 PM |
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Obama's aleady started to make decisions....this is the beginning of his |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 12:49 PM |
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Yes, he has. |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 12:54 PM |
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you have a very naive understanding of politics; tigers can't change their stripes easily |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 01:28 PM |
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And you appear to have no understanding of basic management principles. |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 01:38 PM |
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my point remains |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 01:40 PM |
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Enjoy your solid understanding of the lack of chameleon-like properties of big cats. -nt |
gcomeau |
Nov-25-08 01:59 PM |
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corporate representatives do not agree |
Two Americas |
Nov-25-08 07:34 PM |
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That's a very provocative piece. |
political_Dem |
Nov-25-08 12:32 PM |
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Can you list the ways Obama is "moving to the right"? TIA. |
jenmito |
Nov-25-08 12:20 PM |
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Difference between criticism and confrontation |
zipplewrath |
Nov-25-08 12:28 PM |
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I think you are vastly overestimating the influence posts here have on |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 12:37 PM |
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+ 1000 |
bunnies |
Nov-25-08 12:40 PM |
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Thank you, Bunnies! |
No Elephants |
Nov-25-08 02:34 PM |
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plus, DU is not considered particularly progressive, at all n/t |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 12:55 PM |
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[citation needed] |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-25-08 01:25 PM |
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lol. by you? by counterpunch? |
cali |
Nov-25-08 01:40 PM |
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I'm not silent. Have never been silent. |
LWolf |
Nov-25-08 12:45 PM |
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Obama Needs a Protest Movement - The Nation |
leftstreet |
Nov-25-08 12:52 PM |
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agree, in fact, |
amborin |
Nov-25-08 12:57 PM |
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Yep, that's where I first saw it |
leftstreet |
Nov-25-08 01:02 PM |
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Thanks...Bookmarking.... |
Junkdrawer |
Nov-25-08 01:24 PM |
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Actually, he tried out CCC etc. things as Gov. of NYS. So, he was thinking about it. |
MookieWilson |
Nov-25-08 02:26 PM |
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Thanks, but I think I'll wait until he is actually president... |
Juniperx |
Nov-25-08 12:55 PM |
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knock yourself out |
cali |
Nov-25-08 01:08 PM |
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I'll judge Obama on how governs when he actually starts to govern. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-25-08 01:27 PM |
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Did you see that torture supporter Brennan has dropped out |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-25-08 03:46 PM |
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good news |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-25-08 04:43 PM |
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"when he actually starts to govern." Good point |
autorank |
Nov-25-08 05:32 PM |
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I calm my inner anxiety with the Zen wait and see approach. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-25-08 05:53 PM |
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An alternative thought to calm your mind |
autorank |
Nov-25-08 06:11 PM |
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yep, that'll do it ... consider me scared straight |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-25-08 06:15 PM |
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He hasn't moved anywhere... |
S_E_Fudd |
Nov-25-08 01:28 PM |
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Ummm, I'm sorry but ... |
Mark E. Smith |
Nov-25-08 02:10 PM |
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when the left speaks on DU, it is shouted down, called names, |
leftofthedial |
Nov-25-08 02:36 PM |
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Though I disagree |
H2O Man |
Nov-25-08 02:40 PM |
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Yes, that happens on DU and the movement was to be expected from Obama. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-25-08 03:44 PM |
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it's not a fact that he's moving to the right. he's doing precisely what |
cali |
Nov-25-08 03:53 PM |
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I'm waiting |
autorank |
Nov-25-08 05:41 PM |
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what he said for the last 18 months was a carefully crafted political message |
leftofthedial |
Nov-25-08 07:06 PM |
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Let's give him a chance |
hopechange2008 |
Nov-25-08 02:38 PM |
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I'll bet the entire transition team logs on to DU the first thing every morning. |
Richardo |
Nov-25-08 02:54 PM |
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OK, it's a fair point but what pressure do we bring to someone in transition? |
cooolandrew |
Nov-25-08 05:39 PM |
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OBAMA IS NOT EVEN PRESIDENT YET |
anonymous171 |
Nov-25-08 05:43 PM |
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Guidance needed . . . |
fadedrose |
Nov-25-08 06:19 PM |
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Kick for truth |
Zhade |
Nov-25-08 07:35 PM |
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I Agree - We Must Not Be Silent |
salonghorn70 |
Nov-26-08 08:01 AM |
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As for myself... |
LanternWaste |
Nov-26-08 12:29 PM |
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I must have dozed off during the 30 seconds of alleged "silence". |
11 Bravo |
Nov-26-08 12:34 PM |
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Bullshit. |
AZBlue |
Nov-27-08 02:00 PM |
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