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QueenOfCalifornia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-25-08 01:46 PM
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72. The OP
Edited on Tue Nov-25-08 01:47 PM by Gilligan
does not sound "hysterical" to me.

I wonder why any kind of questioning of Obama is bad. Did you question anything that Clinton did? How about Bush or Raygun?

yes, I know Obama is not in office yet but he is doing some pretty high profile press conferences.

There is nothing wrong with questioning a leader. It is when there is no questioning that things turn pretty damned bad.

and so I don't have to say this again - I am very pleased that Obama is the next president. I don't find his appointments to be a problem really - I do think he may want to think about capitulating to the left and not play center field through the whole game.

edit to fix grammar or typo - I think it was both :P
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  -We do Obama no favors with our silence... Junkdrawer  Nov-25-08 11:45 AM   #0 
  - Dear god. Are we there yet? I dont' think I can stand any more of this.  Buzz Clik   Nov-25-08 11:48 AM   #1 
  - Don't make me turn this car around!  NoPasaran   Nov-25-08 01:56 PM   #73 
     - No! We Can't Stop Here!!!! Here's WHY:  bushmeat   Nov-25-08 07:30 PM   #111 
        - Ha!  rosesaylavee   Nov-26-08 07:55 AM   #114 
           - thats awesome! glad to help cheer up your day :)  bushmeat   Nov-27-08 01:36 PM   #119 
  - Oh, this is going to go well.  Midlodemocrat   Nov-25-08 11:48 AM   #2 
  - Give me some, Pookie  LostinVA   Nov-25-08 11:50 AM   #3 
     - Sure. Would you like a drink to go with it?  Midlodemocrat   Nov-25-08 11:51 AM   #4 
        - Yummie!  LostinVA   Nov-25-08 11:51 AM   #5 
  - "Obama is moving to the Right".  sufrommich   Nov-25-08 11:52 AM   #6 
  - And now we wait....  Shiver   Nov-25-08 11:54 AM   #11 
  - so what?  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 01:17 PM   #56 
     - Except that Obama hasn't taken any actions yet. What is there  sufrommich   Nov-25-08 01:25 PM   # 
     - I am not dissenting  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 01:38 PM   #67 
        - No one is being kept from dissenting here on DU.  sufrommich   Nov-25-08 02:06 PM   #75 
        - yes they are  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 02:39 PM   #85 
        - a couple of good examples  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 02:48 PM   #87 
           - Remarks like that do not disrupt any thinking person's ability to consider any opinion fairly, nor  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 04:03 PM   #93 
              - of course they do  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 04:22 PM   #96 
        - Once again, free speech is defnined as agreement. People who are "attacking" you are disagreeing  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 02:39 PM   #84 
           - not quite  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 03:19 PM   #89 
     - Express dissent about what?  FlaGranny   Nov-25-08 02:15 PM   #77 
        - when  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 04:27 PM   #97 
           - I guess you can  FlaGranny   Nov-26-08 11:28 AM   #116 
  - I must confess, I haven't noticed a whole lot of reticence  riqster   Nov-25-08 11:53 AM   #7 
  - The squeaky wheel gets oiled. The right CAN squeak loudly - corpmedia has their mics in front of 'em  blm   Nov-25-08 11:54 AM   #8 
  - The difference is that when the right gets a bone thrown at them, they howl in delight  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 11:55 AM   #13 
     - The right is practiced at getting what they want AND get 90% of the mic time from corpmedia.  blm   Nov-25-08 11:58 AM   # 
  - I think that means we need to whine a lot about everything, without even  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 11:54 AM   #9 
  - Whining is not what we need. We need organized, coordinated action...  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 12:03 PM   #21 
     - If uncoordinated, diffuse whining is not what we need,  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 12:05 PM   #23 
     - Show me this list  Shiver   Nov-25-08 12:12 PM   #28 
     - I'm point out that the list is missing. Individuals with families and jobs...  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 12:17 PM   #32 
        - While not disputing what you say...  Shiver   Nov-25-08 04:04 PM   #94 
     - The reason that  Gilligan   Nov-25-08 01:25 PM   #59 
     - Obama has several websites, so getting things to his peeps is not a problem. Why would your  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 02:32 PM   #80 
  - Moving To The Right? ROFLMAO!!!!!! What Malarkey.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Nov-25-08 11:54 AM   #10 
  - What did he do now?  FrenchieCat   Nov-25-08 11:54 AM   #12 
  - Announced his plans to follow through on a campaign promise.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 11:58 AM   #15 
  - how controversial!  FrenchieCat   Nov-25-08 11:59 AM   #18 
  - Why I never! He keeps doing that!  Juniperx   Nov-25-08 12:57 PM   #52 
  - As President? Absolutely nothing. Apparently, that means he's moved to the right.  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 04:07 PM   #95 
  - Maybe you should just get arch supports to deal with that  Skidmore   Nov-25-08 11:55 AM   #14 
  - PS: Those that represent the Right will, of course, want our silence...  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 11:58 AM   #16 
  - Are you accusing people who disagree with you...  Shiver   Nov-25-08 12:04 PM   #22 
     - On an anonymous Internet discussion board? Never. n/t  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 12:05 PM   #24 
        - The GOP has nothing better to do than troll DU, apparently.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 12:06 PM   #26 
           - Darn, he's figured us out  Shiver   Nov-25-08 12:10 PM   #27 
  - What silence?!  bunnies   Nov-25-08 11:59 AM   #17 
  - That is what I was just wondering.. what silence.. it has been non stop  peacetrain   Nov-25-08 04:27 PM   #98 
  - We do him no favors with hysterics either.  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 12:02 PM   #19 
  - This should be an OP. nt  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 12:05 PM   #25 
  - You think this OP is "hysterics"?  PassingFair   Nov-25-08 12:12 PM   #29 
  - I think most...  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 12:21 PM   #34 
  - ...and I think people have every right to be alarmed by  PassingFair   Nov-25-08 01:10 PM   #55 
     - Who exactly said I "liked" the situation?  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 01:30 PM   #65 
        - I haven't seen any "shrill" posts.  PassingFair   Nov-25-08 01:32 PM   #66 
           - Then read more, you're missing a lot. -nt  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 01:39 PM   #69 
  - Valid point.  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 12:30 PM   #39 
     - Thanks.  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 12:32 PM   #40 
  - I agree with OB, this should be an OP  davidpdx   Nov-25-08 01:18 PM   #57 
  - The OP  Gilligan   Nov-25-08 01:46 PM   #72 
     - Sigh...  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 02:24 PM   #78 
  - Agree & disagree.  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 12:03 PM   #20 
  - That's a fair assessment and one I agree with. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-25-08 01:26 PM   #61 
  - agreed  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 07:17 PM   #109 
  - If you were to compile a list of those great candidates from the  midnight   Nov-25-08 12:14 PM   #30 
  - Howard Dean, RFK Jr., and Ray McGovern have been mentioned...  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 12:21 PM   #35 
  - RFK Jr is a convicted criminal and a believer in woo-woo pseudoscience.  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 12:24 PM   #36 
  - Good choices.  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 12:33 PM   #42 
  - a great representative is what is important  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 07:25 PM   #110 
  - Obama was ALWAYS on the right, smears from rethugs notwithstanding: good article from The Nation:  amborin   Nov-25-08 12:16 PM   #31 
  - This is exactly what I was talking about...  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 12:25 PM   #37 
  - Obama's aleady started to make decisions....this is the beginning of his  amborin   Nov-25-08 12:49 PM   #46 
  - Yes, he has.  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 12:54 PM   #48 
     - you have a very naive understanding of politics; tigers can't change their stripes easily  amborin   Nov-25-08 01:28 PM   #63 
        - And you appear to have no understanding of basic management principles.  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 01:38 PM   #68 
           - my point remains  amborin   Nov-25-08 01:40 PM   #71 
              - Enjoy your solid understanding of the lack of chameleon-like properties of big cats. -nt  gcomeau   Nov-25-08 01:59 PM   #74 
  - corporate representatives do not agree  Two Americas   Nov-25-08 07:34 PM   #112 
  - That's a very provocative piece.  political_Dem   Nov-25-08 12:32 PM   #41 
  - Can you list the ways Obama is "moving to the right"? TIA.  jenmito   Nov-25-08 12:20 PM   #33 
  - Difference between criticism and confrontation  zipplewrath   Nov-25-08 12:28 PM   #38 
  - I think you are vastly overestimating the influence posts here have on  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 12:37 PM   #43 
  - + 1000  bunnies   Nov-25-08 12:40 PM   #44 
  - Thank you, Bunnies!  No Elephants   Nov-25-08 02:34 PM   #81 
  - plus, DU is not considered particularly progressive, at all n/t  amborin   Nov-25-08 12:55 PM   #50 
     - [citation needed]  Occam Bandage   Nov-25-08 01:25 PM   #60 
     - lol. by you? by counterpunch?  cali   Nov-25-08 01:40 PM   #70 
  - I'm not silent. Have never been silent.  LWolf   Nov-25-08 12:45 PM   #45 
  - Obama Needs a Protest Movement - The Nation  leftstreet   Nov-25-08 12:52 PM   #47 
  - agree, in fact,  amborin   Nov-25-08 12:57 PM   #51 
  - Yep, that's where I first saw it  leftstreet   Nov-25-08 01:02 PM   #53 
  - Thanks...Bookmarking....  Junkdrawer   Nov-25-08 01:24 PM   #58 
  - Actually, he tried out CCC etc. things as Gov. of NYS. So, he was thinking about it.  MookieWilson   Nov-25-08 02:26 PM   #79 
  - Thanks, but I think I'll wait until he is actually president...  Juniperx   Nov-25-08 12:55 PM   #49 
  - knock yourself out  cali   Nov-25-08 01:08 PM   #54 
  - I'll judge Obama on how governs when he actually starts to govern.  AtomicKitten   Nov-25-08 01:27 PM   #62 
  - Did you see that torture supporter Brennan has dropped out  sfexpat2000   Nov-25-08 03:46 PM   #91 
  - good news  AtomicKitten   Nov-25-08 04:43 PM   #99 
  - "when he actually starts to govern." Good point  autorank   Nov-25-08 05:32 PM   #100 
     - I calm my inner anxiety with the Zen wait and see approach.  AtomicKitten   Nov-25-08 05:53 PM   #104 
        - An alternative thought to calm your mind  autorank   Nov-25-08 06:11 PM   #105 
           - yep, that'll do it ... consider me scared straight  AtomicKitten   Nov-25-08 06:15 PM   #106 
  - He hasn't moved anywhere...  S_E_Fudd   Nov-25-08 01:28 PM   #64 
  - Ummm, I'm sorry but ...  Mark E. Smith   Nov-25-08 02:10 PM   #76 
  - when the left speaks on DU, it is shouted down, called names,  leftofthedial   Nov-25-08 02:36 PM   #82 
  - Though I disagree  H2O Man   Nov-25-08 02:40 PM   #86 
  - Yes, that happens on DU and the movement was to be expected from Obama.  sfexpat2000   Nov-25-08 03:44 PM   #90 
  - it's not a fact that he's moving to the right. he's doing precisely what  cali   Nov-25-08 03:53 PM   #92 
     - I'm waiting  autorank   Nov-25-08 05:41 PM   #102 
     - what he said for the last 18 months was a carefully crafted political message  leftofthedial   Nov-25-08 07:06 PM   #108 
  - Let's give him a chance  hopechange2008   Nov-25-08 02:38 PM   #83 
  - I'll bet the entire transition team logs on to DU the first thing every morning.  Richardo   Nov-25-08 02:54 PM   #88 
  - OK, it's a fair point but what pressure do we bring to someone in transition?  cooolandrew   Nov-25-08 05:39 PM   #101 
  - OBAMA IS NOT EVEN PRESIDENT YET  anonymous171   Nov-25-08 05:43 PM   #103 
  - Guidance needed . . .  fadedrose   Nov-25-08 06:19 PM   #107 
  - Kick for truth  Zhade   Nov-25-08 07:35 PM   #113 
  - I Agree - We Must Not Be Silent  salonghorn70   Nov-26-08 08:01 AM   #115 
  - As for myself...  LanternWaste   Nov-26-08 12:29 PM   #117 
  - I must have dozed off during the 30 seconds of alleged "silence".  11 Bravo   Nov-26-08 12:34 PM   #118 
  - Bullshit.  AZBlue   Nov-27-08 02:00 PM   #120 
 

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