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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:35 AM
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38. They want you to believe it's complex.
If I remember correctly during the campaign all you heard was it's too complicated. No it isn't. Usually the best solution is the simplest one. They want you to believe in the complexity because that's how they confuse you and you stop asking questions.
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  -(((Breaking-))) Aides Say Obama May Delay Rolling Back Tax Cuts On The Wealthy DemocratSinceBirth  Nov-23-08 10:02 AM   #0 
  - Oh, they'd be a great source. Probably trying to pressure on him.  KCabotDullesMarxIII   Nov-23-08 10:04 AM   #1 
  - It's not like revenue is a problem or anything.  redqueen   Nov-23-08 10:06 AM   #4 
  - It's funny because I heard someone on CNN doing exactly that last week.  sfexpat2000   Nov-23-08 10:11 AM   #8 
  - "Aides say"  redqueen   Nov-23-08 10:04 AM   #2 
  - "delay"!?!?? Did he give the roll back a deadline? I never saw a deadline on his issue list? If not  uponit7771   Nov-23-08 10:05 AM   #3 
  - He may just let them go off the book and not renew them in 2010  peacetrain   Nov-23-08 10:09 AM   #5 
  - there ya go. He'll likely just not renew them. n/t  Triana   Nov-23-08 10:10 AM   #7 
  - The was the plan anyway. Just let them expire  BrentTaylor   Nov-23-08 10:12 AM   #9 
     - Yep, that is what I remember..  peacetrain   Nov-23-08 10:16 AM   #12 
  - The tax cuts expire at some date don't they? n/t  Triana   Nov-23-08 10:09 AM   #6 
  - Yes. 2010.  cali   Nov-23-08 10:12 AM   #10 
     - No one has ever reported that he is not going to let the tax cuts expire in 2010... nt  Windy   Nov-23-08 10:31 AM   #15 
        - Yea, I've heard the opposite: That he IS going to let them expire...I think he even said that..  Triana   Nov-23-08 10:49 AM   #21 
  - Breaking? Obama said throughout the campaign that they should be allowed to expire...  Kristi1696   Nov-23-08 10:13 AM   #11 
  - yep....  gblady   Nov-23-08 10:48 AM   #20 
  - That makes sense until the major fires are put out. Getting people back to work  still_one   Nov-23-08 10:24 AM   #13 
  - That's Textbook Keynesian Economics  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 10:32 AM   #17 
     - It is Keynsian which apparently our DLC influenced President elect is not going to  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:09 AM   #25 
        - Lord Keynes Would Increase Federal Spending And Cut Taxes For Everybody  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 11:14 AM   #27 
           - Actually, John Maynard Keynes called for a reduction in interest rates not taxes.  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:20 AM   #30 
              - The Fed Fund Rate Is Only One Percent  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 11:32 AM   #35 
                 - Has nothing to do with what he said. n/t  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:32 AM   #36 
                    - How Else Is Governemt Going To Reduce Interest Rates Then By Reducing The Fed Fund Rates  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 11:39 AM   #40 
                       - I said what Keynes said back before I was born a long time ago.  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:50 AM   #44 
                          - Keynes Wanted To Get Money In People's Hands To Create Demand To Ease Recessions  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 12:25 PM   #47 
                             - So? You know that FDR only implemented the parts of his philosophy that  Cleita   Nov-23-08 12:27 PM   #48 
                                - Yes...Roosevelt Did A Lot Of Experimenting...  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 12:42 PM   #51 
  - He is NOT going to delay tax cuts for the middle class... Goolsby/Axelrod  Windy   Nov-23-08 10:30 AM   #14 
  - Who Said Anything About The Middle Class?  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 10:31 AM   #16 
  - The only way to pay off the national dept is to raise taxes.  theoldman   Nov-23-08 10:41 AM   #18 
  - me thinks....  gblady   Nov-23-08 10:50 AM   #22 
  - Trying To Balance The Budget In 1937 Is What Caused A Delay In Ending The Great Depression  DemocratSinceBirth   Nov-23-08 11:35 AM   #37 
  - Has January 20th gone by this quickly?  Writer   Nov-23-08 10:44 AM   #19 
  - He's said multiple times that  kevinds13   Nov-23-08 10:56 AM   #23 
  - There's a news article on it in the LBN Forum.  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:07 AM   #24 
  - Maybe because he and his advisors know much more about the situation than we do?  GarbagemanLB   Nov-23-08 11:09 AM   #26 
  - Economics isn't rocket science. It's not that hard to learn and it's  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:16 AM   #29 
     - Actually, with the team he has around him, he DOES know better. This economic situation IS  GarbagemanLB   Nov-23-08 11:29 AM   #34 
        - They want you to believe it's complex.  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:35 AM   #38 
           - Got an extra tinfoil hat for me?  GarbagemanLB   Nov-23-08 11:36 AM   #39 
              - What you need is a thinking cap not a tinfoil hat. n/t  Cleita   Nov-23-08 11:47 AM   #43 
  - It is not a matter of stimulus. It is a matter that raising taxes in the middle  beachmom   Nov-23-08 11:26 AM   #33 
     - I don't see where he will be raising taxes where it matters. He has  Cleita   Nov-23-08 12:01 PM   #45 
  - Imagine, already at the end of his second term - how time flies.  Lastlaughin08   Nov-23-08 11:16 AM   #28 
  - No point this year. Most of the wealthy lost money  LittleBlue   Nov-23-08 11:22 AM   #31 
  - That's a paper loss. They know that if they hang on to their investments,  Cleita   Nov-23-08 12:04 PM   #46 
  - Yup. You don't raise taxes (or cut spending for that matter) in a spiraling downturn.  beachmom   Nov-23-08 11:25 AM   #32 
  - Okay, I understand short term deficits. But exactly how large do we  Skwmom   Nov-23-08 11:40 AM   #41 
  - I'm sure that's true. It was a sales point to show a source for the tax cut proposed.  TexasObserver   Nov-23-08 11:41 AM   #42 
  - He has to do a tax increase somewhere or he'll be rattling around like  Cleita   Nov-23-08 12:29 PM   #49 
     - Schwarzenegger can't print currency. Obama can.  Not the Only One   Nov-23-08 01:18 PM   #52 
        - If Obama prints currency to reduce the debt, all your savings will become  Cleita   Nov-23-08 03:41 PM   #54 
           - It's called deficit spending, and it's just what the economist ordered.  TexasObserver   Nov-23-08 04:23 PM   #55 
              - He really picked the wrong economists. I think someone ought to send that  Cleita   Nov-23-08 04:29 PM   #56 
  - Gee, what a shock. I'm sure all those "rivals" he's recruiting  dailykoff   Nov-23-08 12:38 PM   #50 
  - Delaying until 2010, which is letting the Bush tax cuts expire  cottonseed   Nov-23-08 01:21 PM   #53 

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