| 127. BULLSHIT! Hillary hid under the covers when healthcare failed - Kerry PERSEVERED for 5 1/2 YEARS |
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to unravel BCCI with all of DC against him.
You bought into a FOCKING MYTH about Hillary - she has one helluva PUBLICIST, that's for sure. She NEVER COMPLETED ANYTHING and let go of matters that encountered obstacles.
I hope like hell you don't call yourself a history teacher.
You can't name ONE foreign policy issue that she LED ON in the senate. Not one. She did speak against Iraq withdrawal, though, didn't she?
Kerry is the most DETAILED person in the senate - Hillary is a middle of the roader who sided with Bush for 6 years on foreign policy because it was focking EASY.
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| -Kerry expected to get top foreign affairs panel post |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 11:11 AM |
#0 |
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WONDERFUL n/t |
emulatorloo |
Nov-19-08 11:13 AM |
#1 |
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Maybe THIS is why he won't be in the Obama White House? |
Bicoastal |
Nov-19-08 11:13 AM |
#2 |
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Not as good as what he should have gotten which was SOS. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:41 AM |
#7 |
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That's not completely true |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 12:41 PM |
#73 |
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Actually, Dodd may take that seat back in two years. |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 01:14 PM |
#81 |
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True |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 01:49 PM |
#96 |
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Oh, that would be cool. Renaissance Kerry could chair a variety |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 02:31 PM |
#103 |
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I fully expect Obama to serve 2 terms... |
Kristi1696 |
Nov-19-08 01:18 PM |
#83 |
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Secretary of State is better. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 07:32 PM |
#141 |
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Great news. It is an important position that needs a thoughtful person. |
Mass |
Nov-19-08 11:16 AM |
#3 |
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Another reason I wanted him to STAY in the Senate. Only a few can be trusted with investigations |
blm |
Nov-19-08 11:25 AM |
#4 |
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Investigations that go nowhere. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:39 AM |
#6 |
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That depends entirely on the Chairman |
grantcart |
Nov-19-08 11:44 AM |
#9 |
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No, it depends on the leaders in the Senate. Kerry tried the investigations route before and it got |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:48 AM |
#15 |
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You are denegrating Kerry's entire career out of bitterness. |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 11:54 AM |
#22 |
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That no one will read or care about. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:56 AM |
#27 |
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And they will if he's SoS? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:02 PM |
#36 |
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There have been great SOS. He could have worked with Obama to reshape |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:11 PM |
#51 |
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Nowhere except the historic record - but, it did make Kerry a TON of powerful enemies |
blm |
Nov-19-08 11:54 AM |
#23 |
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Oh and look where that got him. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:58 AM |
#34 |
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I agree with you he EARNED so much more - but the historic record IS preserved due to his diligence |
blm |
Nov-19-08 12:02 PM |
#38 |
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You continue to unknowingly insult Kerry |
grantcart |
Nov-19-08 12:02 PM |
#40 |
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I know this is a bobby prize and we shouldn't be making it into something grand and special |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:06 PM |
#44 |
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Getting Kerry at the head of the SFRC is a GOOD thing for this country. |
Mass |
Nov-19-08 12:10 PM |
#49 |
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He will have it for two years or four years until the Dem's blow it and |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:22 PM |
#61 |
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The fact is that there have been Chairman of this committee in the past |
grantcart |
Nov-19-08 12:13 PM |
#53 |
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Name some. None come to recent memory. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:23 PM |
#62 |
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Church, Fullbright |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 01:07 PM |
#78 |
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Here |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:10 PM |
#80 |
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Real household names. They come right to mind. LOL.n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 05:22 PM |
#129 |
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"he was a highly ineffectual campaigner" What BS! n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:09 PM |
#79 |
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See what I mean? "ineffectual campaigner" |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:33 PM |
#87 |
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No, I don't. n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:37 PM |
#89 |
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It's just another reason |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:48 PM |
#94 |
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Baloney - he'd be president today if McAuliffe's DNC secured the election process even half as much |
blm |
Nov-19-08 03:37 PM |
#121 |
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He wasn't a chairman then |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Nov-19-08 12:37 PM |
#72 |
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Not true |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 12:46 PM |
#74 |
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Because no one wanted to take them further |
ellacott |
Nov-19-08 11:44 AM |
#10 |
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yes, those who have the real control. A senate chairmanship is not real control. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:50 AM |
#17 |
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Kerry prosecuted BCCI as a freshman Senator with |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 11:49 AM |
#16 |
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And, where did that go and what did that gain him? |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:54 AM |
#24 |
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Kerry is where he is, but |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 11:58 AM |
#31 |
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A great leader is only great is he can accomplish great things for his country. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:04 PM |
#42 |
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So Kerry hasn't accomplished great things? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:06 PM |
#45 |
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He really hasn't since the hearings in the 70"s and he keeps getting thwarted. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:29 PM |
#65 |
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Kerry did not enter the Senate until 1985 |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 02:56 PM |
#111 |
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I know, but his activites in the 70's were the last time he was recognized as |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 05:26 PM |
#131 |
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They should - Bush's shitfest happening now has stemmed from IranContra and BCCI agenda. |
blm |
Nov-19-08 11:58 AM |
#32 |
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Does the withdrawal from Iraq matter? |
TayTay |
Nov-19-08 12:09 PM |
#46 |
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There will be no withdraw. Do you think the polices of the Clinton 's |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:16 PM |
#55 |
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So now you are undermining Obama? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:17 PM |
#57 |
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Don't you question his recent judgement? I do. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:25 PM |
#63 |
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Yes I do. |
TayTay |
Nov-19-08 12:27 PM |
#64 |
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He can deliver all the speeches he wants, no one in a leadership role is listening. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:33 PM |
#70 |
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"Iraq will not change much nor will our foreign policy. " |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:52 PM |
#75 |
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He wasn't looking for "what it would gain him" |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 01:25 PM |
#85 |
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BCCI is not the Iran-Contra scandal. |
Alexander |
Nov-19-08 01:43 PM |
#92 |
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actually, Kerry first became aware of BCCI because of his investigation into IranContra |
blm |
Nov-19-08 03:34 PM |
#120 |
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Yes but claiming Oliver North was the only BCCI casualty is false. |
Alexander |
Nov-19-08 03:59 PM |
#124 |
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Yeah....I figured they just got mixed up about that. |
blm |
Nov-19-08 04:12 PM |
#125 |
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Me too. But so many are ignorant of the facts that nothing surprises me. |
Alexander |
Nov-19-08 06:33 PM |
#137 |
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BCCI - which president clinton helped cover up once in office. |
Zhade |
Nov-19-08 10:58 PM |
#206 |
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They go into the HISTORIC RECORD and it's up to those who CARE about democracy to keep truth alive |
blm |
Nov-19-08 11:52 AM |
#19 |
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Old dusty historians who write books that most of the public doesn't read. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:18 PM |
#58 |
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So where will this greatness that you seek for Kerry be written? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:56 PM |
#77 |
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It would be mentioned word of mouth and passed down through generations. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 05:24 PM |
#130 |
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Very good point |
ellacott |
Nov-19-08 11:44 AM |
#8 |
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I sincerely hope Kerry opens such investigations, and can bring down the Bush Crime Family |
Sebastian Doyle |
Nov-19-08 05:17 PM |
#128 |
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He should have gotten SOS. This is nothing more than he was entitled to. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:38 AM |
#5 |
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There is no such thing as 'entitlement' for a cabinet position |
grantcart |
Nov-19-08 11:45 AM |
#11 |
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No than why is Hillary up for the positon. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:46 AM |
#12 |
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Depends what qualifications you are looking for |
grantcart |
Nov-19-08 11:57 AM |
#29 |
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This is completely untrue |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 01:37 PM |
#90 |
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It's amazing that anyone touting Hillary would |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:49 PM |
#95 |
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Another example of why |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 05:13 PM |
#126 |
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BULLSHIT! Hillary hid under the covers when healthcare failed - Kerry PERSEVERED for 5 1/2 YEARS |
blm |
Nov-19-08 05:15 PM |
#127 |
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Hillary's big thing was supposed to be health care, if she was as you describe |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:11 PM |
#143 |
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Did you think for a second that Kerry is happy where he is? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 11:48 AM |
#14 |
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I doubt it. He wouldn't of run for President otherwise and he was |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:09 PM |
#47 |
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The Presidency and the SoS are not interchangeable, but |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 12:16 PM |
#56 |
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There is no quote you will find where hesays he wants to be SoS |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 01:42 PM |
#91 |
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I almost cried reading this. If it's true, I'll be relieved. Kerry is trustworthy. Let's hope Obama |
cryingshame |
Nov-19-08 11:47 AM |
#13 |
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He won't be going nowhere. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:10 PM |
#48 |
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I meant allows Kerry to dig deep and then follows up on it. |
cryingshame |
Nov-19-08 12:11 PM |
#50 |
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There will be no following up. Just investigations that go nowhere. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:12 PM |
#52 |
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GREAT choice! |
WakeMeUp |
Nov-19-08 11:51 AM |
#18 |
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Cool. |
Alter Ego |
Nov-19-08 11:53 AM |
#20 |
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Thanks for posting. I only hope that in two years he can keep that |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 11:53 AM |
#21 |
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I thought Dodd announced he would retire in 2010 n/t |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-19-08 11:57 AM |
#30 |
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No, he is running for re-election in 2010. |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 12:30 PM |
#69 |
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Isn't it amazing to see smart thoughtful people going into key positions? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-19-08 11:55 AM |
#25 |
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All except Lieberman- oh well, cant win 'em all. n/t |
Dr Fate |
Nov-19-08 12:02 PM |
#37 |
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A very powerful committee ,congratulations to Sen. Kerry. |
sufrommich |
Nov-19-08 11:55 AM |
#26 |
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No congratuations necessary. He was next in line. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:13 PM |
#54 |
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I am looking forward to watching SFRC hearings with Kerry in charge. |
pirhana |
Nov-19-08 11:56 AM |
#28 |
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He should've been president, but I'll take this. |
superduperfarleft |
Nov-19-08 11:58 AM |
#33 |
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He was going to get it anyway. This was no real prize.n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:19 PM |
#59 |
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What is this idea somebody needs a prize. This is such a selfish idea that it is amazing. |
Mass |
Nov-19-08 12:21 PM |
#60 |
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Ok, it was awarded to him through his years in the senate and because Dodd |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:30 PM |
#68 |
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Congratulations to him, if true. |
MetricSystem |
Nov-19-08 12:01 PM |
#35 |
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I am sure it is true. This is the Boston Globe, and also he was 3rd |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 12:56 PM |
#76 |
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I hope this is an excellent fit for Kerry and |
zidzi |
Nov-19-08 12:02 PM |
#39 |
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This was Biden's chairmanship if I'm not mistaken. |
BumRushDaShow |
Nov-19-08 12:03 PM |
#41 |
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K&R |
mvd |
Nov-19-08 12:06 PM |
#43 |
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Senator Kerry will an incredible job in this post, and he earned it. K&R n/t |
Kerry2008 |
Nov-19-08 12:30 PM |
#66 |
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Yep, through all those years in the senate. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 12:34 PM |
#71 |
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Sounds good to me. |
DCBob |
Nov-19-08 12:30 PM |
#67 |
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Looks like the chronic Kerry haters, bashers will get their wish |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:16 PM |
#82 |
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Where in this thread do you see |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:19 PM |
#84 |
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The usual ones that have been all over DU giving reasons why Kerry shouldn't be SOS |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:30 PM |
#86 |
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People can have their opinions, but they haven't posted them in this thread. |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:33 PM |
#88 |
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Because they won |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:47 PM |
#93 |
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Won what? Half of that doesn't make sense, the rest is irrelevant. n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 01:56 PM |
#97 |
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The argument to why Kerry shouldn't be SOS |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 01:59 PM |
#98 |
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"it's how Kerry is being remembered" |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 02:15 PM |
#100 |
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The actions won't mean a thing if no one pays attention to them |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 02:21 PM |
#101 |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 02:24 PM |
#102 |
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I am talking about our media press |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 02:34 PM |
#105 |
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That is not true |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 02:46 PM |
#108 |
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Ok, so not zero, but I don't remember reading about |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 03:11 PM |
#113 |
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Sometimes real change is not on TV |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 02:32 PM |
#104 |
| -
Ok, Obama will set the FP input, goal |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 02:44 PM |
#107 |
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Kerry isn't serving for personal gain. That's a ludicrous argument. |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 02:51 PM |
#109 |
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I never said he was serving for personal gain |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 03:02 PM |
#112 |
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If HRC takes it - t is a task force -not something permanent |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 03:23 PM |
#115 |
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That's interesting |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 03:55 PM |
#123 |
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Let me try again |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 03:16 PM |
#114 |
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Maybe he and Obama want it that way |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 03:54 PM |
#122 |
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I'm totally with you on this |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 05:55 PM |
#135 |
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Great post as always |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 06:12 PM |
#136 |
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Two words why Kerry won't be SOS: Ted Kennedy. |
MonteLukast |
Nov-19-08 02:08 PM |
#99 |
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Wow, so you really think Ted Kennedy would like to be known for holding Kerry back? |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 05:35 PM |
#133 |
| -
Okay, WAY too many Kerry supporters are fighting amongst themselves |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 02:39 PM |
#106 |
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Rodney? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 02:53 PM |
#110 |
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Good point |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 03:24 PM |
#116 |
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I think Kerry will make an enormous difference as Chair of SFRC |
Luftmensch067 |
Nov-19-08 03:28 PM |
#117 |
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Whatever, there is self-interest involved in your decision. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:53 PM |
#201 |
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Sure, I can't wait to receive more e-mails and petitions to sign. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:02 PM |
#207 |
| -
Let's hear it for Kerry love! |
MPK |
Nov-19-08 03:29 PM |
#118 |
| -
Great photo! |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 03:30 PM |
#119 |
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I think Kerryor Clinton would be good as SoS. That being said, Kerry will |
Jennicut |
Nov-19-08 05:28 PM |
#132 |
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Sen. Kerry will be an amazing SFRC chair. |
globalvillage |
Nov-19-08 05:53 PM |
#134 |
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Biden on Kerry, Sept. 2007 |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 06:38 PM |
#138 |
| -
All the more reason Kerry should be SOS. Biden even learned from him. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 07:30 PM |
#140 |
| -
Kerry decided to run for the Senate this year, he wasn't forced to |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:36 PM |
#152 |
| -
What choice did he have? Better to have some job than none at all. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:51 PM |
#159 |
| -
you think he prefers to serve Obama who has less foreign policy experience than him? |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:59 PM |
#163 |
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It was a matter of mutual respect and representing the President. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:56 PM |
#204 |
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You study,you work hard and you do good deeds and where do you end up? |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 07:27 PM |
#139 |
| -
Making history? |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 07:50 PM |
#142 |
| -
Wow, everyone is up on that little meeting. I 'm sure Obama considered that |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:25 PM |
#147 |
| -
the point is that Kerry is in a powerful position already |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:28 PM |
#150 |
| -
He accomplishes nothing with this position. As SOS he could be involved with |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:36 PM |
#153 |
| -
what the fuck did Powell accomplish ? what did Rice accomplish ? |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:45 PM |
#155 |
| -
He may not have accomplished anything in your estimation, but he has earned the respect |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:12 PM |
#173 |
| -
Powell was respected BEFORE he was SOS, he LOST respect as SOS |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:15 PM |
#175 |
| -
Maybe with those who blog. Go ask the public they remember him foundly |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:21 PM |
#177 |
| -
and this respect was from BEFORE he became SOS |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:23 PM |
#178 |
| -
Well, ProSense knows about it and she posted it. |
MPK |
Nov-19-08 08:32 PM |
#151 |
| -
... |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 10:55 PM |
#203 |
| -
... |
MPK |
Nov-19-08 11:31 PM |
#210 |
| -
Thank you |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 11:46 PM |
#211 |
| -
you sound like Sarah Palin |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:15 PM |
#144 |
| -
Really, I didn't follow her that closely. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:27 PM |
#149 |
| -
Jonathon Alter just said on KO tonight that Obama would be more likely |
beachmom |
Nov-19-08 08:47 PM |
#157 |
| -
If Obama would go to him why isn't he going to be SOS? |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:56 PM |
#161 |
| -
because Kerry doesn't want to be SOS |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:01 PM |
#165 |
| -
Oh, and you know that for a fact? Who did you get that off of? n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:06 PM |
#168 |
| -
i got it from Kerry himself who said he looks forward to being Chairman of SFRC |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:08 PM |
#170 |
| -
Oh sure, what else could he say? Of course this postion is better than nothing or just being |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:28 PM |
#181 |
| -
and you don't know that but since you view Kerry as a loser |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:32 PM |
#184 |
| -
I suppose I have a lot of time and money invested and I usually am a good |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:51 PM |
#200 |
| -
As President Obama defines a U.S foreign policy vision, |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 09:10 PM |
#172 |
| -
Come on |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 08:47 PM |
#158 |
| -
Some things on this list aren't much at all. Forget the Senate races |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:00 PM |
#164 |
| -
maybe he doesn't give a shit what Reid and Clinton think about him |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:03 PM |
#167 |
| -
I don't care at all what Reid thinks about him, but he controls the senate Dems |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:09 PM |
#171 |
| -
Hillary certainly didn't come out on top on health care |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:13 PM |
#174 |
| -
That is another reason why he would be better as SOS. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:19 PM |
#176 |
| -
you really do view this as being like American Idol |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:26 PM |
#179 |
| -
It's the name and respect that gets the job done. I didn't make the rules. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:32 PM |
#185 |
| -
Powell's name and respect did not help him accomplish anything positive |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:36 PM |
#188 |
| -
You are extremely mistaken |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 09:30 PM |
#183 |
| -
My judgment is fine. It is everyone else whom assumes |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:48 PM |
#199 |
| -
"Some things aren't much?" |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 11:22 AM |
#212 |
| -
Will concede and agree that all of that is important |
politicasista |
Nov-20-08 04:55 PM |
#213 |
| -
Thanks for a well reasoned response |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 05:54 PM |
#214 |
| -
Thanks |
politicasista |
Nov-20-08 06:12 PM |
#215 |
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The comparison to music really works well |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 06:48 PM |
#216 |
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I doubt Kerry's judgment |
Flute |
Nov-19-08 08:16 PM |
#145 |
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Kerry has been the |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 08:22 PM |
#146 |
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He voted to give Bush the authority after Bush made promises |
karynnj |
Nov-19-08 08:26 PM |
#148 |
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delete n/t |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 10:26 PM |
#195 |
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No, |
ProSense |
Nov-19-08 10:32 PM |
#196 |
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Yep. Went back and edit |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 10:33 PM |
#197 |
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Poor Kerry, if he didn't have bad luck, he wouldn't have any luck at all. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:40 PM |
#154 |
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fucking pathetic , Kerry ran for the Senate THIS YEAR |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:46 PM |
#156 |
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Oh, please. What a challange that was. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 08:53 PM |
#160 |
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if he didn't want to be in the Senate he wouldn't have ran |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 08:56 PM |
#162 |
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The senate was better than noting. It was a good consolation prize. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:03 PM |
#166 |
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just because you have low views of the Senate doesn't mean Kerry does |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:06 PM |
#169 |
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I can't argue that point, but he wanted out at one time- he wanted to be President. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:26 PM |
#180 |
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yes, he wanted to be President not sec of state |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:29 PM |
#182 |
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He was pushing for SOS as an important role he could do great things with. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:33 PM |
#186 |
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he was NEVER pushing for SOS , that was put out by the ones who hate him |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:35 PM |
#187 |
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I am aware of information that he was thinking about this as early as Jan. 07. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:37 PM |
#189 |
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only the crowd who views this as a popularity contest like American Idol |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:39 PM |
#190 |
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I guess you must have lower expectations. n/ |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 09:40 PM |
#191 |
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if you consider low expectations to be what someone actually does |
JI7 |
Nov-19-08 09:43 PM |
#192 |
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Obama wouldn't be where he is without the media. Say what you will |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:02 PM |
#193 |
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You were? Did he tell you that? |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 10:15 PM |
#219 |
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Yep. And many DUers bought into it n/t |
politicasista |
Nov-19-08 10:22 PM |
#194 |
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Pushing was too strong a word, He was giving consideration to what could be accomplished with this |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:41 PM |
#198 |
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Kerry may have actually done as much to fight global warming as Gore |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 09:58 PM |
#217 |
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That would be pretty great. |
Zhade |
Nov-19-08 10:54 PM |
#202 |
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Oh sure, as opposed to him serving as the Chairman of something else. n/t |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 10:57 PM |
#205 |
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oh wow, a position that Biden was happy to abandon and Dodd didn't want. |
wisteria |
Nov-19-08 11:24 PM |
#208 |
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This is good. Obama needs to retain senior leadership in the Senate |
BREMPRO |
Nov-19-08 11:26 PM |
#209 |
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Clinton is not Senior leadship in the Senate |
karynnj |
Nov-20-08 10:02 PM |
#218 |
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Congratulations to John Kerry! |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-20-08 10:18 PM |
#220 |
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