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Tue Nov-18-08 07:22 PM
Response to Reply #92 |
| 95. Have you ever been to Colombia? |
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Just a question, it would be nice to know for future reference, to see if you've ever actually experienced being in the nation.
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| -When Obama says he objects to the Colombian Free Trade Agreement because of human rights violations |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:02 PM |
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The AG works for the President. |
BrentTaylor |
Nov-18-08 04:03 PM |
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Precisely. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:05 PM |
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Thats why he will enforce Obama's agenda |
BrentTaylor |
Nov-18-08 04:11 PM |
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Let me put this another way: If I tell you I disapprove of the Mafia |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:19 PM |
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The contradictions are obvious. Therefore, reasons and policy |
mmonk |
Nov-18-08 04:45 PM |
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As Attorney General you enforce the law. PERIOD |
BrentTaylor |
Nov-18-08 06:57 PM |
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If that were as true as you and I would like it to be |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:06 PM |
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But come on. We know Obama isn't Bush and the neocons |
BrentTaylor |
Nov-18-08 07:14 PM |
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Brent, I was so happy to cast my vote for Obama and I will support him |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:18 PM |
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You make a damn good point but I would not hold my breath for answers. |
IsItJustMe |
Nov-18-08 08:52 PM |
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Agreed. That would be a bad idea. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 08:54 PM |
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I consider that thread a smear thread....... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:07 PM |
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Its only a smear thread if the information presented is either exaggerated and/or inaccurate... |
Solon |
Nov-18-08 04:10 PM |
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The information is historical but non conclusive, and doesn't even provide |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:18 PM |
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You know of course that Peace Patriot and I regularly smear Democrats. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:22 PM |
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I am not smearing anyone..... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:26 PM |
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I have no problem talking to you, FrenchieCat. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:28 PM |
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He smeared himself when he took the case, but nice try. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:17 PM |
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wow. who knew? lawyers represent less than savory people/businesses |
cali |
Nov-18-08 04:21 PM |
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That's just sad, cali. We're not talking about any lawyer. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:24 PM |
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My guess is you know very little about Holder. |
cali |
Nov-18-08 04:27 PM |
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I don't know a great deal about Holder but I do know a little about this case. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:31 PM |
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Because Holder was the attorney, not the client...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:34 PM |
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So, Holder taking money to defend these killers by choice |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:40 PM |
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let's see if you have even a remotely open mind |
cali |
Nov-18-08 04:54 PM |
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Be careful what you ask for. You may be asking Eric Holder |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:06 PM |
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you didn't address the content of my post |
cali |
Nov-18-08 05:23 PM |
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Well, yes I did. I'm sorry. Holder apparently holds a different mandate |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:27 PM |
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that's what I'm thinking... doesn't Everyone deserve legal representation? |
Whisp |
Nov-18-08 04:59 PM |
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Yes, everyone deserves representation. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:07 PM |
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that is true, but sometimes people do get accused of things they didn't do |
Whisp |
Nov-18-08 06:27 PM |
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Multinational corporations aren't as much at risk as you and I are, are they? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 06:33 PM |
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No he didn't. |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:25 PM |
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Lol! Holder got a nice big fat fee for defending the murders of union workers. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:27 PM |
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Wow. Attorneys are now guilty of the same crime as their client! |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:31 PM |
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He chose to defend these people. When you look up "Banana Republic" |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:34 PM |
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So he should have taken the job for free? |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-18-08 06:27 PM |
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Your post is a recruitment poster for attoneys who need a justification |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 06:30 PM |
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Why? |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-18-08 06:35 PM |
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Because you are conflating an individual with a multinational. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 06:55 PM |
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No, I don't |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-18-08 06:58 PM |
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I've been discussing nothing else. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:00 PM |
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Smear? Wanting to expose connections is now a smear when it's inconvenient? |
mod mom |
Nov-19-08 06:53 AM |
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So you don't believe criminals should have lawyers? |
ieoeja |
Nov-18-08 04:14 PM |
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I hope you didn't break your neck making that leap. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:18 PM |
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Accused of a crime. Amendment VI. Lawyer does his duty. |
ieoeja |
Nov-18-08 04:20 PM |
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Holder had no "duty" to take that case but, nice try. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:25 PM |
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He represented them in the civil trial, too. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-18-08 11:37 PM |
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Is this about Chiquita paying protection money to the AUC so they would stop kidnapping their |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 04:25 PM |
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No. There is a link in the OP and there is always the google. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:29 PM |
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I did. It's the same thing if you follow the money. |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 04:34 PM |
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The US backed Colombian government were where they always are, |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:43 PM |
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No, I said it's hypocritical of the Colombian and US governments to hold Chiquita accountable for |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 04:48 PM |
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Sorry, I misread that. Completely agree. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:50 PM |
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Yeah. I agree that Chiquita felt it had to pay the money and was probably shocked and dismayed to |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 04:54 PM |
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They all take their shot at screwing each other. They love that better than golf. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:14 PM |
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Chiquita Had An Option: Pull-Out |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 05:19 PM |
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That shouldn't have even been an option. The Colombian government didn't protect them. |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 05:25 PM |
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Of Course, We Should Protect Any Company Operating In the US |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 05:29 PM |
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Not necessarily. If it gets no protection from the local or federal authorities, let it do whatever |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 05:44 PM |
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We Make Choices. Reject Corruption or Become Part of It |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 05:48 PM |
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I'm glad you feel comfortable passing judgment from your ivory tower. |
SurferBoy |
Nov-18-08 06:57 PM |
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Odd...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 08:55 PM |
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I was and I posted about that. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 08:58 PM |
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Cut the Shit |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 10:01 PM |
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It's not even true. Several of us pointed out that while Hillary was courting lunch buckets |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 10:39 PM |
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Who a lawyer represents should not be used as a judgment |
treestar |
Nov-18-08 04:25 PM |
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When did ethics become immaturity? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:37 PM |
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"Defended the killers of these people" isn't that while they are still |
treestar |
Nov-18-08 05:23 PM |
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I'm sure there are many good reasons for an attorney to take Chiquita's money. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:38 PM |
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In actual fact, the ethics rules is |
treestar |
Nov-19-08 07:40 AM |
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But why should he be rewarded with AG.. |
girl gone mad |
Nov-18-08 11:46 PM |
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Even though Johnny Cochran Defended OJ |
ellacott |
Nov-18-08 04:28 PM |
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It is a conspiracy/guilt by association/they are all out to get us |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 04:32 PM |
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It's a matter of public record. You sure are suddenly free with the lives |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:39 PM |
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Lawyers frequently represent questionable clients |
ellacott |
Nov-18-08 04:44 PM |
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That's right. A lot of lawyers just do their jobs |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:52 PM |
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You must not know a lot of lawyers |
ellacott |
Nov-18-08 05:02 PM |
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There is a lot of money to be made defending people like Chiquita, I agree. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:10 PM |
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That's what it is |
ellacott |
Nov-18-08 04:44 PM |
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That's right. I put up all kinds of threads to smear Obama. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:48 PM |
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Why is Obama palling around with human rights abusers? |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-18-08 04:41 PM |
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So, is he or isn't he? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 04:46 PM |
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I guess in the sense that Bill Ayers was a terrorist. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-18-08 04:55 PM |
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Well, no. Thousands of people were killed and it was Eric Holder's job |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:00 PM |
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Meh. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Nov-18-08 05:06 PM |
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Fair enough. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:08 PM |
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It's a Bit Upsetting |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 05:28 PM |
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I didn't do a very good job on this thread, did I? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:35 PM |
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I Don't Think It's Possible |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 05:43 PM |
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That's the best and most honest remark I've read in a long time. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:45 PM |
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For What It's Worth |
Crisco |
Nov-18-08 07:21 PM |
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Oh, well. ef me, then. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:40 PM |
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And John Adams, too, that bastard. Defending the soldiers in the Boston Massacre. |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-18-08 05:37 PM |
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Because foot soldiers are just like multinational corporations and can pay just as much! |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:39 PM |
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Foot soldiers- you mean those Loyalist representatives of King George, |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-18-08 05:48 PM |
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I can't even believe you are minimizing this. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 05:51 PM |
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Look, why don't you just ADMIT that John Adams was a treasonous snake |
BullGooseLoony |
Nov-18-08 06:07 PM |
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John Adams didn't sign off on thousands of murders |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 06:22 PM |
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Got a link to the paper where someone signs off on thousands of murders? |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:15 PM |
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Yes, the number of deaths was a typo. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:20 PM |
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Have you ever been to Colombia? |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:22 PM |
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No, I've never been to Colombia. You do realize that by the same logic |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:27 PM |
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Well I sure would hope... |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:30 PM |
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Are you not able to use the google to become literate? |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:41 PM |
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You do realize that the events in Colombia are not the Colombian Goverments fault don't you? |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:13 PM |
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My thread is about Obama's mixed messages, not about the Colombian government. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:14 PM |
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Uribe doesn't need defense here. He's not on trial. |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:20 PM |
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LOL! Obama is not on trial, either. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:24 PM |
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And where did I state that Obama was on trial? |
LiberalColombian |
Nov-18-08 07:27 PM |
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Whose Sock Puppet Was That? |
Crisco |
Nov-19-08 06:46 AM |
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What the heck? Now you are saying that Obama might be in favor murder of union organizers? |
zlt234 |
Nov-18-08 07:18 PM |
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Maybe your logic process would be more at home there. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:19 PM |
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So, are we going to start eating our young now? What a disappointment. |
Redstone |
Nov-18-08 07:28 PM |
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I never gave birth to Holder nor did I compel our next president to choose him. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:44 PM |
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Ah, my dear friend SFEX2K, I'm exactly the wrong guy to be preaching to about |
Redstone |
Nov-18-08 08:36 PM |
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I wasn't trying to preach at all, just trying to explain.. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 08:45 PM |
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"We," who? Not me. Not me at all. Did you read what I wrote? I did LIVE that. |
Redstone |
Nov-18-08 08:54 PM |
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If you did live that, then you understand the inclusive gesture |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 09:07 PM |
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What it tells me is that Obama looks ahead and chooses the best people ... |
elkston |
Nov-18-08 07:43 PM |
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So, how does his anti- human rights abuse agenda in Colombia |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 07:46 PM |
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Right. Chiquita's death squad attorney. Aw, fuck... |
Peace Patriot |
Nov-18-08 08:08 PM |
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Chiquita had no death squad...... |
FrenchieCat |
Nov-18-08 08:52 PM |
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I am speechless. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 09:03 PM |
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Wait? Is Holder defendingn AUC? NO. He is defending Chiquita. |
asSEENonTV |
Nov-18-08 11:05 PM |
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That's right. Holder was representing Chiquita. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 11:14 PM |
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I'm pretty sure Obama mentioned this in one of the debates with McCain. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-18-08 10:14 PM |
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Yeah, he did. And it was the first time I understood that he knew |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 10:33 PM |
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I think Obama is pretty knowledgeable so it doesn't surprise me. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-18-08 10:37 PM |
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His Latin American stuff has been sort of sketchy. |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-18-08 10:53 PM |
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I understand Holder to be smart, fair and the RW hates him. |
tekisui |
Nov-19-08 07:53 AM |
#130 |
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DoJ is a sewer right now. The torture president didn't only break the law |
sfexpat2000 |
Nov-19-08 10:21 AM |
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