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54. There is a lot of money to be made defending people like Chiquita, I agree. n/t
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  -When Obama says he objects to the Colombian Free Trade Agreement because of human rights violations sfexpat2000  Nov-18-08 04:02 PM   #0 
  - The AG works for the President.  BrentTaylor   Nov-18-08 04:03 PM   #1 
  - Precisely. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:05 PM   #2 
     - Thats why he will enforce Obama's agenda  BrentTaylor   Nov-18-08 04:11 PM   #5 
        - Let me put this another way: If I tell you I disapprove of the Mafia  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:19 PM   #10 
           - The contradictions are obvious. Therefore, reasons and policy  mmonk   Nov-18-08 04:45 PM   #38 
           - As Attorney General you enforce the law. PERIOD  BrentTaylor   Nov-18-08 06:57 PM   #81 
           - If that were as true as you and I would like it to be  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:06 PM   #85 
              - But come on. We know Obama isn't Bush and the neocons  BrentTaylor   Nov-18-08 07:14 PM   #87 
                 - Brent, I was so happy to cast my vote for Obama and I will support him  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:18 PM   # 
           - You make a damn good point but I would not hold my breath for answers.  IsItJustMe   Nov-18-08 08:52 PM   #110 
              - Agreed. That would be a bad idea.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 08:54 PM   #111 
  - I consider that thread a smear thread.......  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:07 PM   #3 
  - Its only a smear thread if the information presented is either exaggerated and/or inaccurate...  Solon   Nov-18-08 04:10 PM   #4 
  - The information is historical but non conclusive, and doesn't even provide  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:18 PM   #9 
     - You know of course that Peace Patriot and I regularly smear Democrats.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:22 PM   #13 
        - I am not smearing anyone.....  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:26 PM   #19 
           - I have no problem talking to you, FrenchieCat. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:28 PM   #22 
  - He smeared himself when he took the case, but nice try. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:17 PM   #7 
  - wow. who knew? lawyers represent less than savory people/businesses  cali   Nov-18-08 04:21 PM   #12 
  - That's just sad, cali. We're not talking about any lawyer.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:24 PM   #14 
  - My guess is you know very little about Holder.  cali   Nov-18-08 04:27 PM   #20 
     - I don't know a great deal about Holder but I do know a little about this case.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:31 PM   #26 
        - Because Holder was the attorney, not the client......  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:34 PM   #30 
        - So, Holder taking money to defend these killers by choice  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:40 PM   #33 
        - let's see if you have even a remotely open mind  cali   Nov-18-08 04:54 PM   #45 
           - Be careful what you ask for. You may be asking Eric Holder  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:06 PM   #51 
              - you didn't address the content of my post  cali   Nov-18-08 05:23 PM   #58 
                 - Well, yes I did. I'm sorry. Holder apparently holds a different mandate  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:27 PM   #60 
  - that's what I'm thinking... doesn't Everyone deserve legal representation?  Whisp   Nov-18-08 04:59 PM   #47 
     - Yes, everyone deserves representation.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:07 PM   #52 
        - that is true, but sometimes people do get accused of things they didn't do  Whisp   Nov-18-08 06:27 PM   #75 
           - Multinational corporations aren't as much at risk as you and I are, are they?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 06:33 PM   #78 
  - No he didn't.  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:25 PM   #15 
     - Lol! Holder got a nice big fat fee for defending the murders of union workers.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:27 PM   #21 
        - Wow. Attorneys are now guilty of the same crime as their client!  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:31 PM   #25 
        - He chose to defend these people. When you look up "Banana Republic"  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:34 PM   #28 
        - So he should have taken the job for free?  rockymountaindem   Nov-18-08 06:27 PM   #76 
           - Your post is a recruitment poster for attoneys who need a justification  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 06:30 PM   #77 
              - Why?  rockymountaindem   Nov-18-08 06:35 PM   #79 
                 - Because you are conflating an individual with a multinational.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 06:55 PM   #80 
                    - No, I don't  rockymountaindem   Nov-18-08 06:58 PM   #83 
                       - I've been discussing nothing else.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:00 PM   #84 
  - Smear? Wanting to expose connections is now a smear when it's inconvenient?  mod mom   Nov-19-08 06:53 AM   #128 
  - So you don't believe criminals should have lawyers?  ieoeja   Nov-18-08 04:14 PM   #6 
  - I hope you didn't break your neck making that leap.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:18 PM   #8 
     - Accused of a crime. Amendment VI. Lawyer does his duty.  ieoeja   Nov-18-08 04:20 PM   #11 
        - Holder had no "duty" to take that case but, nice try. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:25 PM   #18 
        - He represented them in the civil trial, too.  girl gone mad   Nov-18-08 11:37 PM   #125 
  - Is this about Chiquita paying protection money to the AUC so they would stop kidnapping their  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 04:25 PM   #16 
  - No. There is a link in the OP and there is always the google.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:29 PM   #24 
     - I did. It's the same thing if you follow the money.  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 04:34 PM   #29 
        - The US backed Colombian government were where they always are,  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:43 PM   #35 
           - No, I said it's hypocritical of the Colombian and US governments to hold Chiquita accountable for  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 04:48 PM   #41 
              - Sorry, I misread that. Completely agree.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:50 PM   #42 
                 - Yeah. I agree that Chiquita felt it had to pay the money and was probably shocked and dismayed to  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 04:54 PM   #44 
                    - They all take their shot at screwing each other. They love that better than golf. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:14 PM   #55 
                    - Chiquita Had An Option: Pull-Out  Crisco   Nov-18-08 05:19 PM   #56 
                       - That shouldn't have even been an option. The Colombian government didn't protect them.  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 05:25 PM   #59 
                          - Of Course, We Should Protect Any Company Operating In the US  Crisco   Nov-18-08 05:29 PM   #62 
                             - Not necessarily. If it gets no protection from the local or federal authorities, let it do whatever  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 05:44 PM   #68 
                                - We Make Choices. Reject Corruption or Become Part of It  Crisco   Nov-18-08 05:48 PM   #70 
                                   - I'm glad you feel comfortable passing judgment from your ivory tower.  SurferBoy   Nov-18-08 06:57 PM   #82 
                                   - Odd......  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 08:55 PM   #113 
                                      - I was and I posted about that.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 08:58 PM   #114 
                                      - Cut the Shit  Crisco   Nov-18-08 10:01 PM   #117 
                                         - It's not even true. Several of us pointed out that while Hillary was courting lunch buckets  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 10:39 PM   #121 
  - Who a lawyer represents should not be used as a judgment  treestar   Nov-18-08 04:25 PM   #17 
  - When did ethics become immaturity?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:37 PM   #31 
  - "Defended the killers of these people" isn't that while they are still  treestar   Nov-18-08 05:23 PM   #57 
     - I'm sure there are many good reasons for an attorney to take Chiquita's money.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:38 PM   #65 
        - In actual fact, the ethics rules is  treestar   Nov-19-08 07:40 AM   #129 
  - But why should he be rewarded with AG..  girl gone mad   Nov-18-08 11:46 PM   #126 
  - Even though Johnny Cochran Defended OJ  ellacott   Nov-18-08 04:28 PM   #23 
  - It is a conspiracy/guilt by association/they are all out to get us  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 04:32 PM   #27 
     - It's a matter of public record. You sure are suddenly free with the lives  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:39 PM   #32 
     - Lawyers frequently represent questionable clients  ellacott   Nov-18-08 04:44 PM   #36 
        - That's right. A lot of lawyers just do their jobs  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:52 PM   #43 
           - You must not know a lot of lawyers  ellacott   Nov-18-08 05:02 PM   #49 
              - There is a lot of money to be made defending people like Chiquita, I agree. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:10 PM   #54 
     - That's what it is  ellacott   Nov-18-08 04:44 PM   #37 
        - That's right. I put up all kinds of threads to smear Obama.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:48 PM   #40 
  - Why is Obama palling around with human rights abusers?  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-18-08 04:41 PM   #34 
  - So, is he or isn't he?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 04:46 PM   #39 
     - I guess in the sense that Bill Ayers was a terrorist.  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-18-08 04:55 PM   #46 
        - Well, no. Thousands of people were killed and it was Eric Holder's job  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:00 PM   #48 
           - Meh.  Bornaginhooligan   Nov-18-08 05:06 PM   #50 
              - Fair enough. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:08 PM   #53 
  - It's a Bit Upsetting  Crisco   Nov-18-08 05:28 PM   #61 
  - I didn't do a very good job on this thread, did I?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:35 PM   #63 
     - I Don't Think It's Possible  Crisco   Nov-18-08 05:43 PM   #67 
        - That's the best and most honest remark I've read in a long time.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:45 PM   #69 
           - For What It's Worth  Crisco   Nov-18-08 07:21 PM   #94 
              - Oh, well. ef me, then.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:40 PM   #101 
  - And John Adams, too, that bastard. Defending the soldiers in the Boston Massacre.  BullGooseLoony   Nov-18-08 05:37 PM   #64 
  - Because foot soldiers are just like multinational corporations and can pay just as much!  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:39 PM   #66 
     - Foot soldiers- you mean those Loyalist representatives of King George,  BullGooseLoony   Nov-18-08 05:48 PM   #71 
        - I can't even believe you are minimizing this.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 05:51 PM   #72 
           - Look, why don't you just ADMIT that John Adams was a treasonous snake  BullGooseLoony   Nov-18-08 06:07 PM   #73 
              - John Adams didn't sign off on thousands of murders  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 06:22 PM   #74 
                 - Got a link to the paper where someone signs off on thousands of murders?  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:15 PM   #89 
                    - Yes, the number of deaths was a typo.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:20 PM   #92 
                       - Have you ever been to Colombia?  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:22 PM   #95 
                          - No, I've never been to Colombia. You do realize that by the same logic  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:27 PM   #97 
                             - Well I sure would hope...  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:30 PM   #100 
                                - Are you not able to use the google to become literate?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:41 PM   #102 
  - You do realize that the events in Colombia are not the Colombian Goverments fault don't you?  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:13 PM   #86 
  - My thread is about Obama's mixed messages, not about the Colombian government.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:14 PM   #88 
     - Uribe doesn't need defense here. He's not on trial.  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:20 PM   #93 
        - LOL! Obama is not on trial, either.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:24 PM   #96 
           - And where did I state that Obama was on trial?  LiberalColombian   Nov-18-08 07:27 PM   #98 
           - Whose Sock Puppet Was That?  Crisco   Nov-19-08 06:46 AM   #127 
  - What the heck? Now you are saying that Obama might be in favor murder of union organizers?  zlt234   Nov-18-08 07:18 PM   #90 
  - Maybe your logic process would be more at home there.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:19 PM   #91 
  - So, are we going to start eating our young now? What a disappointment.  Redstone   Nov-18-08 07:28 PM   #99 
  - I never gave birth to Holder nor did I compel our next president to choose him.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:44 PM   #104 
     - Ah, my dear friend SFEX2K, I'm exactly the wrong guy to be preaching to about  Redstone   Nov-18-08 08:36 PM   #107 
        - I wasn't trying to preach at all, just trying to explain..  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 08:45 PM   #108 
           - "We," who? Not me. Not me at all. Did you read what I wrote? I did LIVE that.  Redstone   Nov-18-08 08:54 PM   #112 
              - If you did live that, then you understand the inclusive gesture  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 09:07 PM   #116 
  - What it tells me is that Obama looks ahead and chooses the best people ...  elkston   Nov-18-08 07:43 PM   #103 
  - So, how does his anti- human rights abuse agenda in Colombia  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 07:46 PM   #105 
  - Right. Chiquita's death squad attorney. Aw, fuck...  Peace Patriot   Nov-18-08 08:08 PM   #106 
  - Chiquita had no death squad......  FrenchieCat   Nov-18-08 08:52 PM   #109 
     - I am speechless.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 09:03 PM   #115 
        - Wait? Is Holder defendingn AUC? NO. He is defending Chiquita.  asSEENonTV   Nov-18-08 11:05 PM   #123 
           - That's right. Holder was representing Chiquita. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 11:14 PM   #124 
  - I'm pretty sure Obama mentioned this in one of the debates with McCain.  AtomicKitten   Nov-18-08 10:14 PM   #118 
  - Yeah, he did. And it was the first time I understood that he knew  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 10:33 PM   #119 
     - I think Obama is pretty knowledgeable so it doesn't surprise me.  AtomicKitten   Nov-18-08 10:37 PM   #120 
        - His Latin American stuff has been sort of sketchy.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 10:53 PM   #122 
  - I understand Holder to be smart, fair and the RW hates him.  tekisui   Nov-19-08 07:53 AM   #130 
     - DoJ is a sewer right now. The torture president didn't only break the law  sfexpat2000   Nov-19-08 10:21 AM   #131 

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