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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-18-08 01:54 PM
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26. No, the argument *HAS* been made that he's incompetent.
He didn't hold any hearings on Katrina, and has basically allowed bushco to run roughshod over the constitution even though his committee (as Waxman's in the House) could have held hearings on his abuses of power.

Preserving his chairmanship was the political thing to do, and firing him would've been the practical good-governmental thing to do.
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  -Here is what I don't understand about a lot of you. Did you think Obama was LYING when he constantly... lionesspriyanka  Nov-18-08 01:18 PM   #0 
  - I agree,he has always been pretty outspoken about his  sufrommich   Nov-18-08 01:21 PM   #1 
  - How is keeping Lieberman transcending the pettiness of Washington?  rug   Nov-19-08 06:13 AM   #67 
  - This is a good answer  enigmatic   Nov-18-08 01:21 PM   #2 
  - Problem is, that Obama was the architect  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 01:28 PM   #10 
  - Kicking Lieberman out would have sent a message that Obama was all talk about post-partisanship. If  MetricSystem   Nov-18-08 01:22 PM   #3 
  - exactly my point. if we cant get along w.lieberman who was once our VP nominee  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:25 PM   #8 
  - It was probably easier to respect King George III than Benedict Arnold.  No Elephants   Nov-18-08 06:01 PM   #60 
  - Mine is "then" VS "than"  urbanasaurus   Nov-19-08 05:55 AM   #65 
  - I think this really puts Lieberman in a hard spot...  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 01:50 PM   #20 
     - He will probably fly to GA this evening to campaign with McCain for Chambliss.  AlinPA   Nov-18-08 02:03 PM   #31 
     - That would be really stupid of him  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 02:14 PM   #39 
     - I absolutely agree  Hope2006   Nov-18-08 06:01 PM   #61 
  - I have enough reasons for wanting to give Pelosi the boot...  derby378   Nov-18-08 01:23 PM   #4 
  - Why do you believe this is a step away from partisan politics?  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 01:24 PM   #5 
  - We are punishing him by removing him from an important role because of his support of the GOP  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:26 PM   #9 
  - Lieberman's "see no evil" oversight role during the Bush admin  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 01:33 PM   #13 
  - again, no one has even made an argument that lieberman is incompetent in his role  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:35 PM   #14 
     - That's what the talking point is, that's not actually true.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 01:41 PM   #15 
     - No, the argument *HAS* been made that he's incompetent.  yodermon   Nov-18-08 01:54 PM   #26 
        - i see your point. i however do not believe than very many people  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:56 PM   #27 
        - Who are the DEM voters demanding that Lieberman stay in his chair?  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:12 PM   #37 
        - i dont think anyone is insisting he stay in his chair. i think a bitter fight over him  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 02:14 PM   #38 
           - Who said it needed to be "bitter" or involve a " fight"?  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:26 PM   #45 
        - So? If there are a good government reasons  No Elephants   Nov-18-08 06:18 PM   #62 
        - Thank you! I've been trying and failing to say that.  sfexpat2000   Nov-18-08 02:00 PM   #29 
  - No- we wanted him to be removed b/c he disagrees with us on the ISSUES.  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:09 PM   #35 
  - Exactly what bothers me. Reid said "joe is a democrat" and that was it.  daninthemoon   Nov-18-08 01:47 PM   #16 
  - Obama campaigned for Lieberman in the CT primaries  question everything   Nov-18-08 01:25 PM   # 
  - Lieberman would "never call it quits"...he is an egotistical power monger. n/t  rvablue   Nov-18-08 01:48 PM   #17 
  - He was never right of center, just on foreign policy  Jennicut   Nov-18-08 02:17 PM   #41 
  - A 16pt rating from the American Conservative Union hardly qualifies for 'right of center'  LynneSin   Nov-18-08 04:21 PM   #55 
  - Bullshit. Liebertoad is fairly liberal. He's just ridiculously hawkish on foreign policy.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-18-08 04:28 PM   #56 
  - Watch the top of the page.  jobycom   Nov-18-08 01:25 PM   #6 
  - My disgust with Reid and Pelosi long predates Obama's statement.  AndyA   Nov-18-08 01:25 PM   #7 
  - Okay, I can't take this any longer  IWantAnyDem   Nov-18-08 01:29 PM   #11 
  - absolutely. fixed. why the eyeroll though??  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:32 PM   #12 
     - I held my type at least eight or nine times today  IWantAnyDem   Nov-18-08 01:51 PM   #21 
     - oh some of us have our little pet peeves. Mine is "site" instead of "cite"  Lerkfish   Nov-18-08 01:52 PM   #22 
        - Unless they are talking about this "Marshall law".  SIMPLYB1980   Nov-18-08 02:14 PM   #40 
        - Mine is "loose" vs. "lose"  martymar64   Nov-18-08 04:17 PM   #53 
  - I'm fine with Obama  wryter2000   Nov-18-08 01:48 PM   #18 
  - I'm glad to know others were paying attention...  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 01:49 PM   #19 
  - i did pay attention. i am not sure i love it but atleast i know i wasnt lied to. nt  lionesspriyanka   Nov-18-08 01:54 PM   #25 
  - Not being lied to by the guy at the top is a pretty big change from what we're used to!  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 02:11 PM   #36 
  - Do you think Lieberman and McCain have done good jobs as Senators?  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:03 PM   #32 
     - That isn't what this is about  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 02:09 PM   #34 
        - "Working with" people who are WRONG and allowing them to head committes are two different things.  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:18 PM   #42 
           - Did you listen to Obama at all during his campaign?  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 02:39 PM   #46 
              - Of course I listened to Obama. So you think Lieberman has done a good job?  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:45 PM   #47 
                 - Did Obama say he would only work with people who you thought were doing a good job?  Juniperx   Nov-18-08 03:22 PM   #51 
                    - Did Obama ever say he wanted top positions to go to those NOT doing a good job?  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 03:56 PM   #52 
  - I would be interested to know how many who are upset about Lieberman...  Clio the Leo   Nov-18-08 01:52 PM   #23 
  - Well it is obvious  LibFromWV   Nov-18-08 01:53 PM   #24 
  - Inter party loyalty has nothing to do with Bi-partisanship.  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 01:59 PM   #28 
  - Reach across to whom?  RiverStone   Nov-18-08 02:02 PM   #30 
  - Bipartisanship is overrated when the opposition is wrong.  mmonk   Nov-18-08 02:03 PM   #33 
  - Bipartisanship trumps accountability?  ProSense   Nov-18-08 02:18 PM   #43 
  - It's not about bi-Partisan ship- it's an inter-party matter, in fact.  Dr Fate   Nov-18-08 02:23 PM   #44 
  - No, I didn't miss it. But I do think it was one of his naive points  Chulanowa   Nov-18-08 03:12 PM   #48 
  - I think that Obama's reaching out can only have positive results.  olegramps   Nov-19-08 06:32 AM   #68 
  - "partisan politics of the last few years"? - FALSE - there has been plenty of "bipartisanship" - way  kath   Nov-18-08 03:17 PM   #49 
  - I believed him! n/t  Doityourself   Nov-18-08 03:17 PM   #50 
  - OMG STOPIT STOPIT STOPIT..... How dare you come to GD:P and make *gasp* SENSE!!  LynneSin   Nov-18-08 04:19 PM   #54 
  - Well, yeah, you're right.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-18-08 04:29 PM   #57 
  - Oh man, you fucking paid  Autumn   Nov-18-08 05:54 PM   #58 
  - I'm sorry. I'm all for bi-partisanship but Lieberman is a traitor  my3boyz   Nov-18-08 05:58 PM   #59 
  - "I'm all for bi-partisanship but oops not really."  zlt234   Nov-19-08 06:00 AM   #66 
  - There you go making sense again by actually listening to somebody's words  NewJeffCT   Nov-19-08 04:53 AM   #63 
  - Perhaps subconsciously many of us probably assumed that Obama's vow to "reach across the aisle"  pampango   Nov-19-08 07:05 AM   #72 
     - When I started a few threads speculating on an Obama cabinet  NewJeffCT   Nov-19-08 08:01 AM   #73 
  - "stop this partisan politics of the last few years?"  depakid   Nov-19-08 05:17 AM   #64 
  - I allow for the likelihood that any politician lies...  Orsino   Nov-19-08 06:58 AM   #69 
  - i didnt support obama till he was the nominee but i never thought he was lying to us  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 08:13 AM   #75 
  - Didn't Obama run on a platform of "CHANGE"?...  lame54   Nov-19-08 07:00 AM   #70 
  - yes but he also delineated his idea of change. that change was bipartisan effort  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 08:12 AM   #74 
     - and this put an end to that , didn't it...  lame54   Nov-19-08 08:27 AM   #78 
        - it will if we let it go nt  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 09:08 AM   #79 
  - i voted for obama to do a job. now i am going to let him do his job.  seabeyond   Nov-19-08 07:00 AM   #71 
  - Obama has seen what the right has done to the R's and won't let the left do the same to the Dems. nt  IndianaJones   Nov-19-08 08:17 AM   #76 
  - from this thread i have come to the conclusion that only those of us who werent all for obama in the  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 09:12 AM   #81 
  - LOL!  antfarm   Nov-19-08 08:18 AM   #77 
  - in your analogy am i the teacher or is obama the teacher?  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 09:10 AM   #80 
     - Good point. He is.  antfarm   Nov-19-08 09:18 AM   #84 
  - If you want to end partisanship, then give Lindsey Graham a chairmanship.  Eric J in MN   Nov-19-08 09:13 AM   #82 
     - i dont think its about rewarding republicans or DINO's as much as an appearance  lionesspriyanka   Nov-19-08 09:16 AM   #83 

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