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DonCoquixote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 04:49 PM
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24. Hillary
I understand that half the people here are probably throwing up, and the other half are popping champagne bottles. As much as I have misgivings about her (Israel should not be our best friend), the fact is, we need a Secretary of state that is actually respected abroad, and she fits the bill. After eight years of Powell and Rice, the rest of the world wants to see someone who has a level head and who does her homework before running her mouth, again, Ms. Clinton fits that bill. She will be a familiar face to the European Union and Asia, but will be able to avoid carrying as much baggage as her husband would (though he would be a fine fit too.) Also, this victory came about because, for once, all shades of the left united, so yes, even some DLC will have some role.

HOWEVER, now that the DLC has been given some respect, it is time for Obama to appoint some cabinet posts that are NOT so far to the center. Fortunately, he has two people in the right place to do JUST THAT. Howard Dean, M.D. will be a perfect person to head up Health and Human Services. As far as treasury Secretary, he can pick Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman. Another area where he can score big points is by appoiting Al Gore Secretary of the Interior. These appointments would show two things: One, that the DLC is NOT running the show, and Two, we will return to the days when the MOST QUALIFIED would actually be given cabinet level positions. He could do far worse than have two Nobel winners and Howard Dean.
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  -Hillary Clinton to accept Obama's offer of secretary of state job onehandle  Nov-17-08 04:24 PM   #0 
  - Oh Jeez.  LeftyMom   Nov-17-08 04:25 PM   #1 
  - I know. I have an Excedrin headache. And if this is true, so will Obama.  sfexpat2000   Nov-17-08 04:50 PM   #27 
  - I'm hoping it's not true. I kinda doubt it.  LeftyMom   Nov-17-08 04:57 PM   #36 
  - How do you know Obama doesn't get along with Hillary?  BreatheOnMe   Nov-17-08 05:25 PM   #65 
     - Remember the primary?  LeftyMom   Nov-17-08 05:40 PM   #73 
        - Yeah, that's what happens in politics  BreatheOnMe   Nov-17-08 05:47 PM   #75 
           - No, I've followed politics since I was a kid. That was something else.  LeftyMom   Nov-17-08 05:59 PM   #76 
  - same here  hendo   Nov-17-08 09:41 PM   #99 
  - Gee, I had no idea until now that Obama had offered the job exclusively to her.  ClarkUSA   Nov-17-08 06:29 PM   #83 
  - I'll wait for the official announcement  bluestateguy   Nov-17-08 04:25 PM   #2 
  - confirmed?  mikelgb   Nov-17-08 04:25 PM   #3 
  - Sorry, but I do not trust the Guardian. Ever.  Drunken Irishman   Nov-17-08 04:26 PM   #4 
  - Can you cite to specific instances in which they've been wrong?  snot   Nov-17-08 04:45 PM   #20 
  - They've leaked a lot of things in the past, especially during the election, that were wrong.  Drunken Irishman   Nov-17-08 04:59 PM   #40 
     - Again, specific instances?  snot   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #47 
        - I personally do not know of any specific instances. But I will say this.  musicblind   Nov-17-08 07:42 PM   #90 
           - British newspapers publish the truth when US papers haven't dared to!  bambino   Nov-17-08 10:05 PM   #102 
           - You obviously don't know British papers at all  Prophet 451   Nov-18-08 12:45 PM   #113 
              - Hmmm....no.  anigbrowl   Nov-18-08 04:51 PM   #120 
                 - The category name  Prophet 451   Nov-19-08 12:14 AM   #122 
  - Ridiculous remark  JoFerret   Nov-17-08 10:07 PM   #103 
  - huh?  ElsewheresDaughter   Nov-18-08 12:01 AM   #109 
  - praise the Lord  Whoa20   Nov-17-08 04:26 PM   #5 
  - Witch hunt? That tells me all I need to know about you  cryingshame   Nov-17-08 04:28 PM   #8 
  - Yeah, vetting for others is a "witch hunt" for the Clintons.  sfexpat2000   Nov-17-08 04:52 PM   #29 
  - Gee, maybe a part of it is the belief  amdezurik   Nov-17-08 05:00 PM   #41 
     - I am a well known lackey of the right wing here on DU. n/t  sfexpat2000   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #49 
  - Whoa  hnmnf   Nov-17-08 06:19 PM   #79 
  - Wow, you're quite the ardent Hillarite, aren't you?  skypuddle   Nov-17-08 06:32 PM   #85 
  - I'd really like to know if an offer was actually made.  heraldsqure   Nov-17-08 04:26 PM   #6 
  - She'd be good, I guess.  FitzmasAgain   Nov-17-08 04:27 PM   #7 
  - They would all be good.  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:36 PM   #11 
  - Oh, give me a break. She didn't have squat to say about, for example, that Saudi girl who  closeupready   Nov-17-08 04:59 PM   #38 
  - Show me one Western Politican who dares to stand up to the  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:08 PM   #51 
     - That is a good point - when people talk of the corruption of Washington, that is one of the  closeupready   Nov-17-08 05:14 PM   #56 
        - I agree. But, I would certainly rather have Hillary Clinton going  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:20 PM   #62 
  - The "Experience" Issue...  qwlauren35   Nov-17-08 07:24 PM   #88 
  - Wes Clark should go to Defense  ut oh   Nov-17-08 04:43 PM   #18 
  - What was the fall our of the Clark situation in Kosovo?  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:45 PM   #19 
  - He can't. He has not been out of the military long enough for this post  AllyCat   Nov-17-08 04:48 PM   #23 
  - Agree. Wes Clark for Defense.  tclambert   Nov-17-08 04:57 PM   #35 
  - I hope Wes Clark gets some sort of position in the administration  BreatheOnMe   Nov-17-08 05:31 PM   #69 
  - If this happens. I think it will be very popular in Europe..  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:32 PM   #9 
  - I just blew my tea out of my nose. Term limits? That would mean  salguine   Nov-17-08 04:57 PM   #34 
  - I know. :-)  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #48 
     - The Congress we have now would never impose term limits on the President  salguine   Nov-17-08 05:32 PM   #70 
     - lol.  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:38 PM   #72 
     - A Republican Congress did it during Truman's presidency  RufusTFirefly   Nov-17-08 09:55 PM   #100 
  - Term limits in Congress would be a constitutional amendment, wouldn't they?  muriel_volestrangler   Nov-17-08 05:00 PM   #42 
     - They probably would.  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #44 
        - Ask people in California how well they like term limits  liberalpragmatist   Nov-17-08 11:10 PM   #105 
  - If Barack's trying to form a coalition of rivals, he sure started with the right one. Too bad  bertman   Nov-17-08 04:35 PM   #10 
  - Militarist and a corporatist?  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:38 PM   #14 
  - She'll do awesome  Taverner   Nov-17-08 04:36 PM   #12 
  - ah yes-- the other woman who likes murdering Iraqis....  mike_c   Nov-17-08 05:11 PM   #54 
     - Well, that's why we didn't elect her to the Presidency  Taverner   Nov-17-08 05:14 PM   #57 
  - i think they are guessing to say they had the scoop, the vetting has yet to be completed  BREMPRO   Nov-17-08 04:37 PM   #13 
  - The Guardian is a major left leaning broad sheat.  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:40 PM   #16 
  - they are usually good and may be right. But they have been rightwing mouthpieces from time to time  cryingshame   Nov-17-08 04:48 PM   #21 
     - They do sometimes let rightwing voices into their op-ed's  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:55 PM   #31 
  - I should add that they have manc  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:41 PM   #17 
  - All right Israel & Palestine (Gaza & West Bank) ......  Botany   Nov-17-08 04:38 PM   #15 
  - If this is true then we can kiss any chance of a Mideast peace goodbye  PFunk   Nov-17-08 04:48 PM   #22 
  - Hillary  DonCoquixote   Nov-17-08 04:49 PM   #24 
  - Krugman for Sec of Treasury!  AllHereTruth   Nov-17-08 04:59 PM   #37 
  - John Edwards??? Some of you really do live in bizarro world.  cali   Nov-17-08 06:21 PM   #80 
  - Excellent points, DonCoquixote! I wouldn't mind Hillary at all...  Marthanna   Nov-17-08 07:53 PM   #93 
  - The only thing clinton would do is shut up palin about the dems not putitng women in office.  superconnected   Nov-17-08 04:49 PM   #25 
  - And she dodged bullets on the tarmac.  JeanGrey   Nov-17-08 04:50 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-17-08 04:56 PM   #32 
  - No kidding.  JeanGrey   Nov-17-08 04:56 PM   #33 
  - You just suggested that American soldiers will shoot Senator Clinton.  Beausoir   Nov-18-08 12:55 PM   #114 
  - My BIL is ex-Army Intelligence and an ardent Obama supporter  LostinVA   Nov-18-08 01:36 PM   #118 
  - You do realize what you just wrote breaks DU rules and jeopardizes the Admins  LostinVA   Nov-18-08 01:33 PM   #116 
  - That continues to be a big problem for me. It was pretty much  salguine   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #46 
  - Fundamentally dishonest person,  peace13   Nov-17-08 05:09 PM   #53 
  - and she got her daughter to publicly lie about it too.  Whisp   Nov-17-08 06:35 PM   #86 
  - If true...  Pastiche423   Nov-17-08 04:51 PM   #28 
  - As a foreigner who is not totally up to speed.....  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 04:59 PM   #39 
     - Democratic Leadership Council  RufusTFirefly   Nov-17-08 05:03 PM   #45 
     - Sort of "republican light"  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:06 PM   #50 
        - What would be really scary is if Obama...  RufusTFirefly   Nov-17-08 05:19 PM   #61 
           - The upcoming g.20 meeting is certainly interesting.  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:26 PM   #66 
     - Google is your friend  Pastiche423   Nov-17-08 05:09 PM   #52 
        - I am a bit skeptical about Google's handling of  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:13 PM   #55 
           - They're a lot like the "New Labour" movement in the UK.  Alexander   Nov-17-08 05:21 PM   #63 
              - Yeah.... I think politics in the UK are getting a bit scary  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:24 PM   #64 
              - The "ew" in "New Labour" is pronounced as a long "o" n/t  RufusTFirefly   Nov-17-08 05:28 PM   #67 
                 - It's interesting how you should say that....  Gullvann   Nov-17-08 05:41 PM   #74 
  - I see no confirming report on any major news site  IDemo   Nov-17-08 04:55 PM   #30 
  - This is great news.  Cattledog   Nov-17-08 05:02 PM   #43 
  - agree! This is great news!  DollyM   Nov-17-08 05:16 PM   #59 
  - *sigh*  Roland99   Nov-17-08 05:15 PM   #58 
  - exactly...*sigh*  mirrera   Nov-18-08 04:44 PM   #119 
  - The brits know something we don't?  Iggo   Nov-17-08 05:18 PM   #60 
  - The British press knew there were no WMDs in Iraq, and reported it so  IndianaGreen   Nov-17-08 05:31 PM   #68 
  - the single greatest foreign threat we face right now...  northernlights   Nov-17-08 05:35 PM   #71 
  - Well said ! I am extremely concerned Pakistan is on the verge becoming a failed nation state.  CADEMOCRAT7   Nov-17-08 08:40 PM   #98 
  - What a shame for those more qualified for this position.  wisteria   Nov-17-08 06:06 PM   #77 
  - "Those more qualified"...  jefferson_dem   Nov-17-08 06:26 PM   #82 
  - If this is true, I'm disappointed in the number of DUers that aren't trusting Obama to do the right  truthisfreedom   Nov-17-08 06:18 PM   #78 
  - if true...  mollymongold   Nov-17-08 06:24 PM   #81 
  - Meanwhile, on CNN, "Just In" reporting Bill Clinton is being scrutinized and may  jenmito   Nov-17-08 06:29 PM   #84 
  - So what good would a government be,  Life Long Dem   Nov-17-08 06:48 PM   #87 
  - She will make a fantastic Sec. of State  Cali_Democrat   Nov-17-08 07:28 PM   #89 
  - Just have one thing to say....  prodn2000   Nov-17-08 07:43 PM   #91 
  - How the heck does the UK Guardian get insider information on US politics?  DCBob   Nov-17-08 07:45 PM   #92 
  - Where is THIS LEAK coming from?? Weird!  Sensitivity   Nov-17-08 08:12 PM   #94 
  - the Guardian?  ErinBerin84   Nov-17-08 08:14 PM   #95 
  - Are there any qualified people outside the ex Clinton Admin?  LittleBlue   Nov-17-08 08:20 PM   #96 
  - You mean people other than the people that actually know how goverment works?  prodn2000   Nov-17-08 08:34 PM   #97 
  - Not until Obama team finishes vetting Bill Clinton  Nasprin   Nov-17-08 10:02 PM   #101 
  - Wow - all the Cliinton Haters out in force I see...DISGUSTING, isn't it!  TankLV   Nov-17-08 10:07 PM   #104 
  - Yep, that's it.  Erin Elizabeth   Nov-17-08 11:12 PM   #106 
     - Well - you prove my point...and I don't EVER "worship" her..so stop putting words in my mouth, honey  TankLV   Nov-18-08 11:26 PM   #121 
  - Isn't that just like a man, to offer her a job as a secretary.  undeterred   Nov-17-08 11:55 PM   #107 
  - mehahaha  ElsewheresDaughter   Nov-18-08 12:00 AM   #108 
  - nothing against the Clintons, but Obama is going to regret this appointment . . .  OneBlueSky   Nov-18-08 07:10 AM   #110 
  - And they can ignore that shit and get down to bidness and do stuff the media will not be able to  lonestarnot   Nov-18-08 07:35 AM   #111 
  - Here's hoping that both Clinton and Obama realize sooner rather than later--  eridani   Nov-18-08 11:36 AM   #112 
  - I suppose the others being vetted (and silent about it as per protocol) accept too.  AtomicKitten   Nov-18-08 01:29 PM   #115 
  - I hope it's true....  cricket08   Nov-18-08 01:34 PM   #117 
  - nah...this article is from yesterday..  stillcool47   Nov-19-08 12:50 AM   #123 
 

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