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Thu Nov-13-08 11:49 AM
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| 23. I'm not blaming "the Blacks." |
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I blame religion, especially the two big churches that raised money and actively campaigned for Prop. 8. But I also blame religious dogma generally.
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| -My Dear Gay and Lesbian brothers and sisters, IT's NOT THE BLACKS FAULT!!! |
Heather MC |
Nov-12-08 10:19 PM |
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I just posted the 538 article in GD. |
mzmolly |
Nov-12-08 10:23 PM |
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Argo bargo. |
Occam Bandage |
Nov-12-08 10:30 PM |
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Bingo! |
Gilligan |
Nov-13-08 10:18 AM |
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You're joking, right? |
BeFree |
Nov-12-08 10:32 PM |
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Oh, you must have been off DU for a couple of days. |
AZBlue |
Nov-12-08 10:38 PM |
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DesertedRose |
Nov-13-08 10:40 AM |
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Novemebr 5th was supposed to be a wonderful day in the GD/P neighborhood but someone dumped their |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-08 11:08 AM |
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I tend to agree with "divide and conquer" |
RedLetterRev |
Nov-13-08 11:40 AM |
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No idiot said that |
LostinVA |
Nov-13-08 02:35 PM |
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Thank you! |
AyanEva |
Nov-13-08 09:41 AM |
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Of course it isn't the AA community's fault, but it is ironic that 70% of them voted to strip rights |
GarbagemanLB |
Nov-13-08 10:22 AM |
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Even that 70% number is iffy considering they only polled (around or about) 2,400 for that CNN poll. |
Lilyeye |
Nov-13-08 10:45 AM |
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CNN says jump... we say how high. n/t |
demdog78 |
Nov-13-08 10:58 AM |
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I think you've got it... nt |
blondeatlast |
Nov-13-08 11:09 AM |
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That 70% figure is bullshit. See this thread: |
struggle4progress |
Nov-13-08 01:08 PM |
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"the blacks" |
bunnies |
Nov-13-08 10:27 AM |
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Ya Think? |
demdog78 |
Nov-13-08 12:04 PM |
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the Gays |
mkultra |
Nov-13-08 01:31 PM |
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I don't think the sentiment was ever that Prop 8 was the fault of African Americans. |
mondo joe |
Nov-13-08 10:34 AM |
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You're kidding... right mondo? |
demdog78 |
Nov-13-08 12:05 PM |
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No, not kidding. |
mondo joe |
Nov-13-08 01:09 PM |
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You would have liked it to be so, but it was not widespread. |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 01:10 PM |
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Actually there were posts blaming the increased numbers of AA for the passage of Prop 8 |
Raineyb |
Nov-13-08 02:22 PM |
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That's not blaming Obama. |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 02:59 PM |
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I like how straightforward the blame was from "the gays" to "the blacks" |
genna |
Nov-13-08 10:50 AM |
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Stop with the "scapegoating" crap, already |
nichomachus |
Nov-13-08 11:27 AM |
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Do you know what your point is? Because after reading it three time... |
demdog78 |
Nov-13-08 12:07 PM |
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I'll be showing this to one of my friend's BF who basically said "fuck all of the blacks." |
Lilyeye |
Nov-13-08 10:52 AM |
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Of course AAs didn't make it happen by themselves. |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 10:57 AM |
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Even that 70% number is iffy considering they only polled (around or about) 2,400 for that CNN poll |
noiretblu |
Nov-13-08 11:23 AM |
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Agreed, except there have been other polls prior to this that indicate a majority of black voters... |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 11:46 AM |
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They didn't. That is the point. |
demdog78 |
Nov-13-08 12:08 PM |
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I don't believe the poll was wrong. And I also don't believe that AA's caused the prop to pass. |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 01:08 PM |
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It's an incredibly shitty poll. See this thread: |
struggle4progress |
Nov-13-08 01:10 PM |
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I agree it was a shitty poll. But not every poll has been shitty, and Obama and Coretta King both |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 01:13 PM |
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You can march pointlessly into a swamp if you like, but in fact |
struggle4progress |
Nov-13-08 02:08 PM |
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The fault is with the government and procedure |
Lurking_Argyle |
Nov-13-08 11:47 AM |
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I'm not blaming "the Blacks." |
Deep13 |
Nov-13-08 11:49 AM |
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Nate Silver explains it all. |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-13-08 11:55 AM |
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Why are we not allowed to talk about the homophobia in the black community? |
mollymongold |
Nov-13-08 12:12 PM |
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I see no one saying you cannot... |
stevenleser |
Nov-13-08 12:17 PM |
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You can talk about it all you want. Why |
marlo |
Nov-13-08 01:19 PM |
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Welcome to DU, Marlo! |
Karenina |
Nov-13-08 02:27 PM |
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Good question -- no one on here wants to discuss it |
LostinVA |
Nov-13-08 02:32 PM |
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The irony of this is that the reason African Americans |
stevenleser |
Nov-13-08 12:15 PM |
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One big reason blacks voted YES: They were targeted with Mormon ads using Obama's pictures |
This One |
Nov-13-08 12:17 PM |
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I understand the history of the black church, but that's no excuse imo to hate and have homophobic |
mollymongold |
Nov-13-08 12:24 PM |
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You are making the assumption that I say it is an excuse... |
stevenleser |
Nov-13-08 12:28 PM |
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## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
DU GrovelBot |
Nov-13-08 12:17 PM |
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I saw it and the |
itzdaun |
Nov-13-08 12:45 PM |
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Discussing homophobia in teh black community isn't scapegoating |
LostinVA |
Nov-13-08 02:34 PM |
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We passed a bill against gay marriage by 68% and we have very few fundies and blacks here. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Nov-13-08 01:13 PM |
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I suggest the intent of your OP was reopening wounds -- congrats |
LostinVA |
Nov-13-08 02:34 PM |
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I agree. Sure seems to be the ONLY purpose of this thread. |
PelosiFan |
Nov-13-08 03:01 PM |
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Heather. Thank you very much for posting this. |
political_Dem |
Nov-13-08 03:30 PM |
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Let's all just agree to blame the Mormons. |
mwei924 |
Nov-13-08 03:43 PM |
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Locking |
The Magistrate |
Nov-13-08 03:46 PM |
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