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Mon Nov-10-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
| -The country is right of center |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 10:13 AM |
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The government is right of center, but the people are not anymore. |
ryanmuegge |
Nov-10-08 10:15 AM |
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Would that it were so simple. it's not. this country is neither right of center or |
cali |
Nov-10-08 10:18 AM |
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So confusing the issue is the way to go? |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 10:19 AM |
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So being accurate and actually looking at the country is "confusing |
cali |
Nov-10-08 10:34 AM |
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Whatever........ |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 10:35 AM |
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the electoral collage, and the way representation is allocated in our system skews things to appear |
Motown_Johnny |
Nov-10-08 10:18 AM |
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Corporate media has pushed the national discourse to the right. |
Overseas |
Nov-10-08 10:22 AM |
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i loved when dr dean shut down the rnc head the day after the |
ellenfl |
Nov-10-08 10:30 AM |
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the far right and left will both be disappointed by Obama |
cleveramerican |
Nov-10-08 10:39 AM |
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again, WHAT FAR LEFT? |
maxsolomon |
Nov-10-08 12:03 PM |
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Is there a commonly accepted dividing line between Left and Far Left? n/t |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 12:23 PM |
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It is a self-identification issue. |
ieoeja |
Nov-10-08 10:48 AM |
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What does "center" even mean? |
Bill McBlueState |
Nov-10-08 10:50 AM |
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Yes and No |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 12:22 PM |
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This is the same crowd that blathered for years that "elections have consequences" and |
yellowcanine |
Nov-10-08 11:41 AM |
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You are right, the Reich is just trying to save face |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 12:08 PM |
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Sorry.... but this nation IS still right-of-center... and here's the data to prove it |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 12:11 PM |
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Your trend in party identification nullifies your lower map |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 01:16 PM |
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Let me explain what I see there... |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 02:31 PM |
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Source please, I asked the last time |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 02:35 PM |
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it's there... read it =D |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 02:36 PM |
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Yeah, nice counter argument. Plus a map doesn't tell the picture in the first place. |
ChimpersMcSmirkers |
Nov-11-08 02:01 PM |
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Looking at the latter map "long and hard" belies your point |
rockymountaindem |
Nov-10-08 02:42 PM |
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It's a change in intensity & independents abandoning the GOP |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 03:08 PM |
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Let's try this another way, who made these maps or where did you get them from |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 03:40 PM |
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How about... you try READING what you respond to? |
Essene |
Nov-11-08 10:49 AM |
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You're completely |
ProSense |
Nov-10-08 02:51 PM |
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what the media matters report finds doesnt really contradict what im saying, but... |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 03:09 PM |
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I read what you said: "nation IS still right-of-center." Media Matters report says that's a myth. |
ProSense |
Nov-10-08 03:12 PM |
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Americans dont buy into the extreme GOP rhetoric of the last 20 years... so? |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 03:23 PM |
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"That's arguably just common sense, not a progressive position." Sorry that's nonsense. |
ProSense |
Nov-10-08 03:30 PM |
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You seem to think "right" only means the far extreme. |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 03:38 PM |
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If you don't, then you don't know what you're talking about. n/t |
ProSense |
Nov-10-08 03:40 PM |
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thanks for taking the time to make an argument |
paulk |
Nov-11-08 11:58 AM |
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we're best when we are critical of our own assumptions, as well |
Essene |
Nov-11-08 12:07 PM |
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Media-Matters poll proves you wrong, period. |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 06:14 PM |
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You don't include the most important data (and it's data which proves you wrong). |
Shakespeare |
Nov-11-08 12:48 PM |
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"on individual issues, Americans fall overwhelmingly into the liberal/left category." |
Essene |
Nov-11-08 03:54 PM |
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That map is IRRELEVANT, and I'm talking issues while you're talking labels. |
Shakespeare |
Nov-11-08 04:20 PM |
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Some people can't see the forest for the trees |
DainBramaged |
Nov-11-08 08:11 PM |
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THANK YOU!!!!!!!! IT'S THE NEXT BIG LIE!!!!!!! |
WinkyDink |
Nov-10-08 02:37 PM |
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Joshua Holland -- America is a Center-Left Country -- from Alternet |
Overseas |
Nov-10-08 02:45 PM |
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Repukes say they lost the election because they couldn't communicate their message. |
sparosnare |
Nov-10-08 02:52 PM |
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I.e., they couldn't LIE WELL ENOUGH this time. |
WinkyDink |
Nov-11-08 03:31 PM |
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We just defined center |
new_beawr |
Nov-10-08 03:27 PM |
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He's laid claim to the center... and we must respect that stake |
Essene |
Nov-10-08 03:32 PM |
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We are sympatico...... |
new_beawr |
Nov-10-08 03:35 PM |
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Where are your maps from? The originator. Not your blog. |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 06:07 PM |
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good grief... |
Essene |
Nov-11-08 10:40 AM |
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Hello, where is your information from????? |
DainBramaged |
Nov-11-08 10:23 AM |
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And it's not just the mem, it's the Right telling us Obama has to govern from the Right |
DainBramaged |
Nov-10-08 06:14 PM |
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It is still right of center. It's just the center moved left. n/t |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 12:11 PM |
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moving... left |
Essene |
Nov-11-08 12:30 PM |
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getting a little dizzy here...what's nativism? |
lelgt60 |
Nov-11-08 12:35 PM |
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yes and no |
Two Americas |
Nov-11-08 01:03 PM |
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I disagree with you often but not this time, great post (n/t) |
harun |
Nov-11-08 01:12 PM |
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I'd agree that the country is still effectively center right |
TheKentuckian |
Nov-11-08 01:27 PM |
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Then why in the latest polls nearly 70% of the people |
DainBramaged |
Nov-11-08 08:10 PM |
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they cling to that tired meme like their blankie |
AtomicKitten |
Nov-11-08 01:28 PM |
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Isn't that like Lake Wobegon, where "all of the children are above average"? |
Larry in KC |
Nov-11-08 03:28 PM |
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we are very geographically polarized, |
Whoa20 |
Nov-11-08 08:17 PM |
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