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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-08-08 10:28 AM
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25. Well there is a legal requirement that people who want to bevome a union
have to have a "license" There a bllod tests and other requirements such as proof of age and consent. The state has some responsibilities to protect and document unions and be custodians of publi records. And most religious officints won't performa a ceremony withot the license in place.
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  -The reality is that in the eyes of the state. All Marriages are Civil Unions Perky  Nov-08-08 09:12 AM   #0 
  - So religious people are against anyone getting married at City Hall?  crappyjazz   Nov-08-08 09:17 AM   #1 
  - Yes, in fact. When I first came up with the idea of Civil Unions for everybody, I found that Fundies  cryingshame   Nov-08-08 09:36 AM   #8 
  - I think Opposotion to Civil Unions is limited to about 25% of the religious  Perky   Nov-08-08 09:51 AM   #12 
  - Many of my DH's family didn't consider our civil ceremony  OurVotesCount-Ohio   Nov-08-08 11:08 AM   #27 
  - i disagree that people who voted for prop 8 aren't anti-gay  kagehime   Nov-08-08 09:20 AM   #2 
  - Well-reasoned  kennetha   Nov-08-08 09:25 AM   #3 
  - The Religious Reich would fight that tooth and nail  skepticscott   Nov-08-08 09:31 AM   #5 
  - You are wrong. Fundies believe TRUE marriage is performed by the Church and don't  cryingshame   Nov-08-08 09:34 AM   #7 
     - The flaw in your argument is  skepticscott   Nov-08-08 11:13 AM   #28 
  - It should require two actions, the religious imprimatur  RichardRay   Nov-08-08 09:49 AM   #10 
  - Amen.  thecatburgler   Nov-08-08 10:10 AM   #17 
  - The company here I work just published a 'Total Compensation'  RichardRay   Nov-08-08 10:16 AM   #20 
  - Totally. People who "shack up" or stay single get nothing.  marimour   Nov-08-08 10:15 AM   #19 
  - Yep - absolutely NONE. n/t  RichardRay   Nov-08-08 10:16 AM   #21 
  - THANK YOU! Rarel y does anyone point out the  amyrose2712   Nov-08-08 03:11 PM   #42 
  - Well I don't like it. I say screw that.  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 01:18 PM   #30 
     - Ease up.... I used the term "civil marriage" with good reason  Perky   Nov-08-08 02:26 PM   #34 
     - Well, ease up. I wasn't responding to you. n/t  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 02:59 PM   #39 
     - Yeah. *No one* should have to give up the terminology.  Orsino   Nov-08-08 06:22 PM   #49 
  - i agree with a lot of this.  marimour   Nov-08-08 09:28 AM   #4 
  - What if some gay people would like to take their vows before god?  crappyjazz   Nov-08-08 09:39 AM   #9 
     - Are you talking about metaphysically or by clergy?  Perky   Nov-08-08 09:57 AM   #15 
     - If they want an officiant just find one that will do it and have at it.  RichardRay   Nov-08-08 10:19 AM   #22 
        - Well there is a legal requirement that people who want to bevome a union  Perky   Nov-08-08 10:28 AM   #25 
           - As long as the union has no standing in the eyes of the state  RichardRay   Nov-08-08 10:30 AM   #26 
     - I agree, but there are clergy who will marry gays "before god." I am not Catholic and no Catholic  No Elephants   Nov-08-08 10:20 AM   #23 
     - You dont need a church to take your vows before god and there are churches that will do it.  marimour   Nov-08-08 10:21 AM   #24 
     - No problem. There are quite a number of churches that would accommodate them  eridani   Nov-08-08 08:24 PM   #51 
  - Totally agree. Although I prefer Civil Unions for everybody and ditching the word Marriage  cryingshame   Nov-08-08 09:32 AM   #6 
  - Religious officials performing marriages are generally licensed by the state.  suston96   Nov-08-08 09:49 AM   #11 
  - But the state provides the marriage license,  Perky   Nov-08-08 09:56 AM   #13 
  - But the state provides the marriage license,  Perky   Nov-08-08 09:56 AM   #14 
  - I don't care what you call it, as long as it is called the same for EVERYone. No one used the term  No Elephants   Nov-08-08 09:59 AM   #16 
  - I agree with you 100%  damkira   Nov-08-08 10:13 AM   #18 
  - kicking for more dialog  Perky   Nov-08-08 12:38 PM   #29 
  - The reality is some citizens can marry and some cannot.  TexasObserver   Nov-08-08 01:21 PM   #31 
  - Yes. What I was trying to say only so much better.  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 01:29 PM   #33 
  - It is not a battle over semantics.  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 01:27 PM   #32 
  - "Marriage is not a religious union. It is a legal contract. That is a fact"  Perky   Nov-08-08 02:38 PM   #36 
     - Based on the fact that it's a legal contract.  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 02:56 PM   #38 
     - Look. The thing is  Pithlet   Nov-08-08 03:26 PM   #43 
        - Wow, Pithlet, great job hanging in there to make the point. I was  lib_wit_it   Nov-09-08 03:44 AM   #52 
           - Thanks.  Pithlet   Nov-09-08 01:20 PM   #53 
  - "What's in a name?  yowzayowzayowza   Nov-08-08 02:33 PM   #35 
  - I am not going to pander to believers by pretending there is any reason to oppose gay marriage...  Deep13   Nov-08-08 02:39 PM   #37 
  - "Marriage is a civil contract" --Brigham Young  nichomachus   Nov-08-08 03:01 PM   #40 
  - Gay people don't like "Civil Unions" not because it "seems second class" but  tandot   Nov-08-08 03:08 PM   #41 
  - and if those issues were overcome in the context of "civil Unions"?  Perky   Nov-08-08 03:33 PM   #44 
     - I am actually straight and married here in CA and I would be totally fine  tandot   Nov-08-08 03:57 PM   #45 
  - Simply put, "marriage" is not a word that belongs to religions.  Left Is Write   Nov-08-08 04:20 PM   #46 
  - I understand the argument and I think it is sound. The problem is that religious people  Perky   Nov-08-08 07:14 PM   #50 
  - but, but, but.... a civil union, as some states have for gays, is not the same as a marriage of an  electron_blue   Nov-08-08 05:13 PM   #47 
  - Well, it's *part* of The Reality, anyway.  Orsino   Nov-08-08 06:21 PM   #48 
 

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