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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-06-08 10:47 PM
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1. Fine..so did they suggest who else's constitutional rights we can vote out next?
I mean, after all, since they've apparently agreed that essentially the Constitution of the State of California is a worthless piece of paper for the gay community.
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  -Jeffrey Toobin: Prop 8 is likely not going to be overturned by the courts TeamJordan23  Nov-06-08 10:45 PM   #0 
  - Fine..so did they suggest who else's constitutional rights we can vote out next?  kevinbgoode   Nov-06-08 10:47 PM   #1 
  - Mormons  DinoBoy   Nov-06-08 10:59 PM   #8 
  - Roland Martin is really pissing me off. He looks so damn defiant.  MetricSystem   Nov-06-08 10:48 PM   #2 
  - How does one "look defiant?"  EffieBlack   Nov-07-08 12:19 AM   #20 
     - I've been watching at different points today during CNN and it's very clear how he feels about this  MetricSystem   Nov-07-08 12:20 AM   #21 
        - But you still haven't explained what you mean by "looking defiant."  EffieBlack   Nov-07-08 12:41 AM   #26 
           - I've seen Martin A LOT over the last number of months and when he was discussing this issue I sensed  MetricSystem   Nov-07-08 12:43 AM   #28 
  - All the arguments I've heard for Prop 8  sakabatou   Nov-06-08 10:48 PM   #3 
  - Black people, or any other group  bigwillq   Nov-06-08 10:49 PM   #4 
  - Shut the fuck up about what?  EffieBlack   Nov-07-08 12:37 AM   #23 
     - Any group who has been oppressed in the past  bigwillq   Nov-07-08 08:50 AM   #45 
  - He's probably right. I think the interpretation will rest solely on the California constitution.  kwenu   Nov-06-08 10:53 PM   #5 
  - Will it be any less of a longshot after Obama's had time to appoint some  Phredicles   Nov-06-08 11:01 PM   #10 
  - Honestly? No. It won't be any less of a longshot.  kwenu   Nov-06-08 11:38 PM   #18 
     - But what if Califonia's constitution is at odds with the US one?  Phredicles   Nov-07-08 12:33 AM   #22 
        - There's a big difference between a constitution and a statute. The argument is worth a shot though.  kwenu   Nov-07-08 08:18 AM   #41 
  - But equal rights is both a state and a federal concern. Marriage is not the  No Elephants   Nov-07-08 04:56 AM   #38 
     - That's a new (albeit just) interpretation. I hope it prevails.  kwenu   Nov-07-08 08:21 AM   #42 
  - I voted AGAINST prop 8 because for one, I am an AA woman and  Ecumenist   Nov-06-08 10:54 PM   #6 
  - Apparently Roland Martin has all the civil rights HE needs.  billyoc   Nov-06-08 10:58 PM   #7 
  - that will definitely leave a bruise  grantcart   Nov-06-08 11:00 PM   #9 
  - did Roland Martin say he is for the ban ?  JI7   Nov-06-08 11:01 PM   #11 
  - Yeah, he's some kind of Sky Pilot, a recent divinity school grad, from Texas, no less!  billyoc   Nov-06-08 11:07 PM   #12 
  - This sucks but in CT we shot down the ability to amend our constituion so gay marriage will stand  Jennicut   Nov-06-08 11:08 PM   #13 
  - remember too  darboy   Nov-07-08 05:24 AM   #39 
  - KEEP in MIND: Roland Martin voted for both Bush I & II.  A-Schwarzenegger   Nov-06-08 11:12 PM   #14 
  - i didn't know that, i view him in a completely different way now  JI7   Nov-06-08 11:28 PM   #16 
     - Yep.  A-Schwarzenegger   Nov-06-08 11:52 PM   #19 
  - Toobin is usually right about legal matters. Seldom wrong.  TexasObserver   Nov-06-08 11:12 PM   #15 
  - 2 words. Bull. Shit.  johnaries   Nov-06-08 11:28 PM   #17 
  - He's right  EffieBlack   Nov-07-08 12:39 AM   #24 
  - I think that's correct -- you'd need a federal court decision...  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-08 12:44 AM   #30 
  - Look at Colorado's Amendment 2  donheld   Nov-07-08 01:57 AM   #33 
  - The Loving arguments for gay marraige have failed before. I think Toobin is right.  SweetieD   Nov-07-08 03:13 AM   #36 
  - "Only a matter of time..."  regnaD kciN   Nov-07-08 12:40 AM   #25 
  - Got into argument today with co-worker about Prop 8.  AnnitaR   Nov-07-08 12:42 AM   #27 
  - He's wrong.  BullGooseLoony   Nov-07-08 12:44 AM   #29 
  - The problem is California lets their voters amend their constitution with a popular vote.  Pithlet   Nov-07-08 01:30 AM   #31 
  - I'd rather have the 'screwed up' California method.  Captiosus   Nov-07-08 01:45 AM   #32 
  - It's a very bad way to make law.  Pithlet   Nov-07-08 03:04 AM   #35 
  - Agreed. Californians reap what they sow.  endthewar   Nov-07-08 02:27 AM   #34 
     - If it's not overturned it will be on the ballot in 2010.  ej510   Nov-07-08 04:46 AM   #37 
  - I think Jeffrey Toobin is wrong about this  moobu2   Nov-07-08 07:52 AM   #40 
  - Can't determine that one way or the other without seeing the ruling  Jersey Devil   Nov-07-08 08:27 AM   #43 
  - Sit on it and spin, Toobin!.........  CrownPrinceBandar   Nov-07-08 08:27 AM   #44 
  - Obama could not sacrifice the his ethnic vote, also against 8. But has lectured in black churches...  MarjorieG   Nov-07-08 08:55 AM   #46 
  - The amendment vs revision argument has not been ruled on by the court  Jersey Devil   Nov-07-08 08:55 AM   #47 
 

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