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108. I wonder if there is no decency act?
If they came to protest the funeral of someone I loved, I can't see how I could ignore them. Are family members and loved ones not entitled to mourn in peace for a few hours?

Are the rights of protesters so important that they eclipse decency and privacy at a singular moment in a person's life?

Personally, this strikes me as a ludicrous policy. There are plenty of other times for protesting. Where's the humanity? If a person or group has a real issue to protest, they can do it without hate. Look at the Iraq Vets Against the War. They're a good example of freedom of speech rights. I'm tired of pretending we don't know what hate is or we can't define it, so it get's equal air time.

Hate is uncivilized and leads to bad things. Hate speech is not protected. This country is better than that. And no, I'm not advocating Fascism. There are gray areas that we are ready to delve into with delicacy and an eye on maintaining rights while encouraging a more accountable and civilized society. I'm tired of free speech being used as an excuse for dangerous and irresponsible rhetoric.

To misconstrue the intentions of free speech to mean you can say anything to anyone at anytime and it's free speech is ridiculous. It's just a symbol of how this country has been systematically taken down to pre-school level comprehension.
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  -Westboro Baptist Church will be picketing the funeral of Obama's grandmother Seen the light  Nov-05-08 09:07 PM   #0 
  - 'able to deal with?'  elleng   Nov-05-08 09:09 PM   #1 
  - That's the thing though  Seen the light   Nov-05-08 09:11 PM   #3 
  - You let them protest, that's how. But counter protesters could always come.  beachmom   Nov-05-08 09:19 PM   #12 
  - First amendment doesn't cover this.  Xenotime   Nov-06-08 09:05 AM   #89 
     - What law!?  proud2Blib   Nov-06-08 09:22 AM   #94 
     - How ? they clearly have a permit.  demokatgurrl   Nov-06-08 10:16 AM   #106 
     - Sorry, but it does.  damonm   Nov-06-08 01:58 PM   #121 
  - They should be allowed to protest.  HooptieWagon   Nov-05-08 10:18 PM   #53 
  - I hear Pitcarn Island is nice this time of year...  TankLV   Nov-06-08 12:26 AM   #69 
  - I have found that you "take" whatever "power" they have from  rasputin1952   Nov-05-08 10:22 PM   #56 
  - Waco Style!  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-05-08 09:37 PM   #28 
  - That's the only way anyone would start to give a shit  Jed Dilligan   Nov-06-08 01:03 AM   #74 
  - Popular musicians could band together and shut them down.  Jed Dilligan   Nov-06-08 01:02 AM   #73 
  - ...  walkzt   Nov-06-08 09:11 AM   #92 
  - Who said anything about abolishing religion?  asdjrocky   Nov-06-08 09:19 PM   #141 
  - First thing is kick 'em out of the party  marshall   Nov-06-08 09:20 AM   #93 
  - Unfortunately, they're not in violation of any law, and the First Amendment  Alter Ego   Nov-06-08 10:16 AM   #107 
  - Secret service is going to love these guys.  JVS   Nov-05-08 09:11 PM   #2 
  - And vice versa  Posteritatis   Nov-05-08 09:23 PM   #21 
  - Im not sure they will be allowed to get away with this one, not with  AuntPatsy   Nov-05-08 10:11 PM   #45 
  - These people are really sick in the fucking head. n/t  firedupdem   Nov-05-08 09:13 PM   #4 
  - We All Know The "Fucking Head" Doesn't Think  Binka   Nov-05-08 09:29 PM   #24 
  - Really! Here's their website:  JaneQPublic   Nov-05-08 10:09 PM   #42 
     - It's worse than that  NikolaC   Nov-06-08 09:57 AM   #100 
  - It will be interesting to see how the Secret Service handles them n/t  csziggy   Nov-05-08 09:13 PM   #5 
  - These people are sick. Sick. Sick. nt  quiet.american   Nov-05-08 09:13 PM   #6 
  - god's sick army  spanone   Nov-05-08 09:14 PM   #7 
  - They tried to picket a funeral in Canada...  Liberalboy   Nov-05-08 09:15 PM   #8 
  - Is this the same group that protests military funerals?  beachmom   Nov-05-08 09:20 PM   #16 
     - Yep (nt)  Posteritatis   Nov-05-08 09:21 PM   #17 
     - Yes....sigh  Liberalboy   Nov-05-08 09:55 PM   #35 
  - I'm quite sure the Secret Service will point out the error of their ways to these nutjobs if they  scarletwoman   Nov-05-08 09:16 PM   #9 
  - Oh you can believe it. The family is a bunch of lawyers  cboy4   Nov-05-08 09:23 PM   #20 
  - Ever heard of the First Amendment? We defend it not when it is easy  beachmom   Nov-05-08 09:18 PM   #10 
  - Threats to the security of the president-elect have no first amendment freedoms  IWantAnyDem   Nov-05-08 09:20 PM   #15 
  - Did anyone say "near the Obamas"? People protested Bush all the time,  beachmom   Nov-05-08 09:23 PM   #22 
     - You don't know what the Westboro nuburgers do, do you?  IWantAnyDem   Nov-05-08 09:39 PM   #29 
        - And as long as they get media coverage and attention, they will continue to do  Arkansas Granny   Nov-06-08 08:04 AM   #82 
  - Hate speech isn't protected  tammywammy   Nov-05-08 10:13 PM   #47 
  - The Secret Service Will SWOOP DOWN ON THEIR ASSES  IWantAnyDem   Nov-05-08 09:19 PM   #11 
  - Lock and load!  IndianaGreen   Nov-05-08 09:19 PM   #13 
  - Understood. They bring out my Inner Commissar, too.  onager   Nov-07-08 02:31 AM   #144 
  - Understood. They bring out my Inner Commissar, too.  onager   Nov-07-08 02:31 AM   #145 
  - I think a whole lot of men in dark suits with machine guns and sniper rifles  WindRiverMan   Nov-05-08 09:19 PM   # 
  - No kidding  prolesunited   Nov-05-08 09:22 PM   #18 
     - I'm going with the Mike Malloy "soccer ball" theory on that one.  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-06-08 12:01 PM   #110 
  - With Obama winning, haven't they figured out that perhaps  cboy4   Nov-05-08 09:19 PM   #14 
  - I think this group will be lucky if the Secret Service saves their sorry  hedgehog   Nov-05-08 09:22 PM   #19 
  - The location of the funeral will probably be moved, and they  Beregond2   Nov-05-08 09:24 PM   #23 
  - Good... the whole world will see this stupid group.  Bubbha Jo   Nov-05-08 09:30 PM   #25 
  - WTF WTF WTF WTF WTF!!!!!  eshfemme   Nov-05-08 09:32 PM   #26 
  - Gee, I sure hope nothing bad happens to them.  kenny blankenship   Nov-05-08 09:35 PM   #27 
  - Gee, me neither. That'd be perfectly awful.  Lex   Nov-05-08 10:10 PM   #43 
     - Yes. It would be absolutely terrible if someone shotgunned the bunch of them.  cliffordu   Nov-05-08 10:13 PM   #48 
        - Or beat them to a bloody pulp...  TankLV   Nov-06-08 12:29 AM   #70 
           - Somehow the irony in that justice seems....perfectly logical.....  cliffordu   Nov-06-08 12:46 AM   #72 
  - ........................  EastTennesseeDem   Nov-05-08 09:41 PM   #30 
  - They are pathetic  lenegal   Nov-05-08 09:44 PM   #31 
  - Stay classy Westboro!  TheKentuckian   Nov-05-08 09:44 PM   #32 
  - Is this funeral going to be in Hawaii?  no_name_no_slogan   Nov-05-08 09:47 PM   #33 
  - Isn't that the truth.  votesomemore   Nov-06-08 09:30 AM   #95 
  - How do they hvae the money to fly to Hawaii?  mycritters2   Nov-06-08 04:56 PM   #136 
  - These guys are just about the worst humanity has to offer.  Elrond Hubbard   Nov-05-08 09:51 PM   #34 
  - Are... You... Fucking... Kidding Me?  musicblind   Nov-05-08 09:59 PM   #36 
  - they're going to pay for round-trip airfare to hawaii for their group?  QuestionAll   Nov-05-08 09:59 PM   #37 
  - Just how DO they fund all their travel?  midnight armadillo   Nov-05-08 10:00 PM   #38 
  - Oh, you got nuts all over this country that will fund anything hate filled.....  nomaco-10   Nov-05-08 10:06 PM   #40 
  - They've won lawsuits and got attorney's fees  tammywammy   Nov-05-08 10:08 PM   #41 
  - what if someone who lives in a tent on the public beach kicks their ass...?  QuestionAll   Nov-05-08 11:12 PM   #62 
  - Are they tax exempt?  pstokely   Nov-06-08 05:46 AM   #79 
     - They don't accept donations. It's apparently on Fred's family members involved. n/t  IanDB1   Nov-06-08 09:08 AM   #90 
  - Virtually all of the adult Phelps are lawyers and they sue if someone sneezes in their airspace.  blondeatlast   Nov-05-08 10:14 PM   #49 
  - Why did they go to law school?  pstokely   Nov-06-08 05:47 AM   #80 
  - Yeah. Actually they do. nt  votesomemore   Nov-06-08 09:33 AM   #96 
  - and if that person lives in a tent on the beach- what would they sue them for?  QuestionAll   Nov-06-08 09:12 PM   #139 
  - don't they generally pile in a couple vans and/or a mobile home?  QuestionAll   Nov-05-08 11:14 PM   #63 
  - Palin funds them personally, I'm sure  Rocknrule   Nov-06-08 01:17 AM   #76 
  - The "Family" Leaders  NikolaC   Nov-06-08 10:03 AM   #102 
  - That was my first thought  Hippo_Tron   Nov-05-08 10:15 PM   #50 
  - They were going to Australia for Heath Ledger's funeral  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-06-08 12:05 PM   #111 
     - Australia has VERY STRICT rules on this sort of thing, if they even got a Visa, they would have been  NotThisTime   Nov-06-08 02:30 PM   #122 
  - Anybody know if these crazy nuts have a tax exempt status?...  nomaco-10   Nov-05-08 10:03 PM   #39 
  - Don't they have a giant civil judgement against them right now?  Lex   Nov-05-08 10:12 PM   #46 
     - Yes, it's still going through appeals  tammywammy   Nov-05-08 10:16 PM   #52 
        - That's how they took down the Aryan Nations assholes in Idaho  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-06-08 12:07 PM   #113 
  - NOW can we grind them all to paste? Please?  cliffordu   Nov-05-08 10:11 PM   #44 
  - Now that Obama is safely elected, he needs to have his "Muslin" mullah issue a fatwa against Phelps  yellowcanine   Nov-05-08 10:15 PM   #51 
  - First Amendment's cool and all...  Zombie2   Nov-05-08 10:18 PM   #54 
  - People like this make me hate to call myself Christian.  Heather MC   Nov-05-08 10:20 PM   #55 
  - You shouldn't feel that way, they are not Christians, they are  rasputin1952   Nov-05-08 10:25 PM   #57 
  - Calling the Angel Action in Hawaii and Kansas  susanwy   Nov-05-08 10:41 PM   #58 
  - I was present at one these whackjobs protest too  rvablue   Nov-06-08 11:12 AM   #109 
  - That is AWESOME  DesertedRose   Nov-06-08 12:05 PM   #112 
  - That's beautiful and brilliant! I have not heard of this before, thank you! nt  blondeatlast   Nov-06-08 12:15 PM   #116 
  - I hope that's what happens...  Born_A_Truman   Nov-06-08 01:08 PM   #119 
  - I don't know what to say beyound WTF.  pam4water   Nov-05-08 10:53 PM   #59 
  - "I AM THE JUDGE", said God, "NOT YOU."  LynnTheDem   Nov-05-08 10:55 PM   #60 
  - The Westboro Baptist Church and God have no relationship with each other.  avaistheone1   Nov-05-08 10:56 PM   #61 
  - I don't think this is smart..  RoadRage   Nov-05-08 11:15 PM   #64 
  - It's one dysfunctional family, doing this solely for the attention. Ignore them.  struggle4progress   Nov-05-08 11:27 PM   #65 
  - I wouldn't weep if the S.S. beats them up... they are amongst the few who deserve it. n/t  stevietheman   Nov-06-08 12:03 AM   #66 
  - You know....  PatGund   Nov-06-08 12:08 AM   #67 
  - Oh no they won't. Two words. "Secret Service."  Dem2theMax   Nov-06-08 12:12 AM   #68 
  - I Live In El Dorado Ks.....  PJPhreak   Nov-06-08 12:38 AM   #71 
  - The Evangelical crazies have almost given me a disdain for church and religion.  Obama_for_our_future   Nov-06-08 01:06 AM   #75 
  - as usual, Fred Phelps, will be too big of a chickenshit to go himself  Adenoid_Hynkel   Nov-06-08 01:47 AM   #77 
  - Where do they get the money for plane tickets?  pstokely   Nov-06-08 05:43 AM   #78 
  - Go the chaser  stick   Nov-06-08 07:50 AM   #81 
  - Lol! That's funny.  votesomemore   Nov-06-08 09:52 AM   #99 
  - Love Chaser  GrpCaptMandrake   Nov-06-08 01:51 PM   #120 
  - I think they will be picketing from VERY far away  Marrah_G   Nov-06-08 08:06 AM   #83 
  - The way to deal with these EVANGELICAL WING NUTS  debrazee   Nov-06-08 08:10 AM   #84 
  - Maybe this church will take over the reins of the republican party.  AlinPA   Nov-06-08 08:10 AM   #85 
  - They said they would picket a military funeral and then didn't show up  JPZenger   Nov-06-08 08:17 AM   #86 
  - They showed up at other iraq KIA funerals however.  Ian_rd   Nov-06-08 01:01 PM   #117 
  - It takes a special kind of wingnut to make Pat Robertson look like a moderate. nt  Deep13   Nov-06-08 08:19 AM   #87 
  - I am sure the 2nd amendment will be upheld  MATTMAN   Nov-06-08 08:38 AM   #88 
  - I don't care where I am, or what else is going on at the time, someday Fred Phelps will die...  IanDB1   Nov-06-08 09:10 AM   #91 
  - Drop dead Fred.  Window   Nov-06-08 09:46 AM   #97 
  - How are these people NOT on the 'no-fly' list??? I mean, how  pacoyogi   Nov-06-08 09:51 AM   #98 
  - Good Question  NikolaC   Nov-06-08 10:11 AM   #103 
  - These people need to be locked up in an asylum. They're nuts. nt  valerief   Nov-06-08 10:01 AM   #101 
  - Scum.  Alter Ego   Nov-06-08 10:14 AM   #104 
  - These people are going to straight to hell  LibraLiz1973   Nov-06-08 10:15 AM   #105 
  - They sure are  Sebastian Doyle   Nov-06-08 12:10 PM   #114 
  - I wonder if there is no decency act?  CitizenPatriot   Nov-06-08 10:37 AM   #108 
  - Beat them into a coma  The Craw   Nov-06-08 12:14 PM   #115 
  - This is an opportunity for someone locally to organize a pro-active counter-demonstration.  JackBeck   Nov-06-08 01:07 PM   #118 
  - See post 58 - ANY DU'ers FROM HAWAWII OR KANSAS  susanwy   Nov-06-08 04:00 PM   #131 
  - My god  loyalkydem   Nov-06-08 02:52 PM   #123 
  - Good luck, Fred.  Plaid Adder   Nov-06-08 02:58 PM   #124 
  - They need to build a cage for them and stick it in  trashcanistanista   Nov-06-08 03:02 PM   #125 
  - Sick bastards - they really test my free speech absolutism.  apocalypsehow   Nov-06-08 03:08 PM   #126 
  - Heartbroken  Voted4Obama   Nov-06-08 03:22 PM   #127 
  - Westboro Baptist, meet the Secret Service  noonwitch   Nov-06-08 03:23 PM   #128 
  - What a bunch of FREAKS  debbierlus   Nov-06-08 03:35 PM   #129 
  - Ironic that they are quoting Amos, often called the prophet of social justice.  VoodooGuru   Nov-06-08 03:41 PM   #130 
  - Toss them in Gitmo with no due process. Problem solved.  Nailzberg   Nov-06-08 04:05 PM   #132 
  - Fuck  FrameMan   Nov-06-08 04:48 PM   #133 
  - I would make sure the funeral home arranges for some kind of security. nt  Jim4Wes   Nov-06-08 04:51 PM   #134 
  - The republican base.  AlinPA   Nov-06-08 04:55 PM   #135 
  - Holy crap how did my thread end up getting so many views?  Seen the light   Nov-06-08 05:06 PM   #137 
  - H ow your post got so much attention  friendly_explainer   Nov-07-08 01:20 AM   #143 
  - those worthless shits so deserve the foot headed straight up their ass  Teaser   Nov-06-08 05:13 PM   #138 
  - I doubt they can afford last minute tickets to Hawaii  Truth Hurts A Lot   Nov-06-08 09:13 PM   #140 
  - They can easily.  rexy   Nov-07-08 02:44 AM   #146 
  - I have a long and very personal history with Phelps and his poisoned progeny.  ZeitGuy   Nov-06-08 09:20 PM   #142 

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