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Thu Sep-09-04 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #32 |
| 39. Exactly - there are a number of non superscripted ones but one that is |
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The one that is superscripted is very low conpared to the Aug 18th PDF.
What strikes me most is the line breaks. It was shocking to see everything reproduced exactly as in the PDF as I typed it into Word.
How did it work in a typewriter? I seem to recall the last electric ones - didn't they let you type past the end of a line then erase the upper part and put the word on the next line, like a word processor would do?
Walt's post of the record looks like typewriter, especially the "1".
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| -I now think the docs are a forgery - please try this yourself |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 08:36 PM |
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what document? it doesn't matter. the guy's a deserter who kills for fun |
bransonfu |
Sep-09-04 08:39 PM |
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I worked for a security Fed agency and always kept CYA memos. |
slojim240 |
Sep-10-04 12:32 PM |
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There is a big difference between a typed document from that era... |
Spazito |
Sep-09-04 08:39 PM |
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not if they only had a copy and not an original |
renotyme |
Sep-09-04 08:46 PM |
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We don't know what CBS received or how they got it |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 08:47 PM |
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What the hell is a "personal file" - wow, that sounds official... |
hexola |
Sep-10-04 09:37 AM |
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Looking closer, I don't believe it. |
Kanzeon |
Sep-09-04 09:00 PM |
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The superscript "th" sits higher than it would in Word. |
Why |
Sep-09-04 09:29 PM |
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i learned to type on a manual |
WolverineDG |
Sep-09-04 10:03 PM |
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How about the "fi" key. The top of the lowercase f dots the lc i. |
Virginian |
Sep-09-04 10:20 PM |
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mom's typewriter |
WolverineDG |
Sep-10-04 08:19 AM |
#135 |
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That doesn't look anything like a Word document. |
Zynx |
Sep-09-04 10:20 PM |
#80 |
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So Rove gave them to CBS? |
lancdem |
Sep-09-04 08:40 PM |
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Your number 6....you have a point. |
cat_girl25 |
Sep-09-04 08:41 PM |
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Other Rovish possibilities |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 08:51 PM |
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That could be done post-processing, in Photoshop. |
NRK |
Sep-09-04 10:58 PM |
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Or just get an IBM Selectric and type the document |
LuminousX |
Sep-10-04 09:21 AM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-10-04 12:04 PM |
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You lie about the Niger forgeries. |
Bernardo de La Paz |
Sep-10-04 03:52 AM |
#129 |
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The problem with number three |
jmowreader |
Sep-10-04 04:04 AM |
#130 |
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Doesn't prove crap. |
Ducks In A Row |
Sep-09-04 08:43 PM |
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I agree - since word was a copy of the IBM typewriter program. |
papau |
Sep-09-04 08:49 PM |
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I am now convinced that the documents are genuine. |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-09-04 08:55 PM |
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You may have to swing back. |
Frodo |
Sep-09-04 09:49 PM |
#52 |
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Wouldn't make a bit of difference to the influence attempt. |
aquart |
Sep-09-04 10:03 PM |
#66 |
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Doesn't prove crap. |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-09-04 10:03 PM |
#67 |
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Not "proof" |
Frodo |
Sep-09-04 10:13 PM |
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I adore you! |
dralston |
Sep-09-04 10:59 PM |
#105 |
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What does that prove? |
leftynyc |
Sep-10-04 12:13 PM |
#146 |
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I think you're right about #6 |
RationalRose |
Sep-09-04 08:44 PM |
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Why wouldn't Rove have lowered the boom by now? |
Chomskyite |
Sep-09-04 08:45 PM |
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Maybe it's to give more people time to hang themselves... |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-09-04 08:58 PM |
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One thought |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 09:20 PM |
#34 |
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I agree - its a fraud |
zwade |
Sep-09-04 08:47 PM |
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Oh, please. |
ocelot |
Sep-09-04 08:47 PM |
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Journalists suck, in general |
Thurston Howe IV |
Sep-09-04 11:23 PM |
#115 |
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Then did Rove forge Dubya's own military record? |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 08:49 PM |
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They look the same to you? |
zwade |
Sep-09-04 08:53 PM |
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Line 2 |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 09:26 PM |
#38 |
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there is a difference in the superscripted th's |
TheWebHead |
Sep-09-04 11:08 PM |
#111 |
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Exactly....it makes every other charge unreasonable now.... |
formernaderite |
Sep-09-04 10:29 PM |
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sorry Walt |
Dookus |
Sep-09-04 08:58 PM |
#22 |
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Maybe I'm blind, but |
HFishbine |
Sep-09-04 09:01 PM |
#26 |
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Look at the first instance of 111th |
0rganism |
Sep-09-04 09:15 PM |
#32 |
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Exactly - there are a number of non superscripted ones but one that is |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 09:28 PM |
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Sorry, you're off on a tangent -- also cf my post #44 |
0rganism |
Sep-09-04 09:46 PM |
#51 |
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I wonder if they had numeric ones |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 09:56 PM |
#61 |
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I've seen them with and without, I think most had 1s by the early '80s |
0rganism |
Sep-09-04 10:53 PM |
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LOL! |
HFishbine |
Sep-10-04 12:42 AM |
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So, "we're" a little unclear on superscripts, are "we"? |
0rganism |
Sep-10-04 02:51 AM |
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LOL! Harder |
HFishbine |
Sep-10-04 06:52 AM |
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WRONG |
dionysus |
Sep-09-04 08:51 PM |
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Man, did you ever tell /him/. |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-09-04 09:03 PM |
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too lazy to read the front page of this very forum? |
dionysus |
Sep-09-04 09:14 PM |
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Sure. |
LoZoccolo |
Sep-09-04 09:24 PM |
#37 |
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here you go... |
dionysus |
Sep-09-04 09:34 PM |
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Agreed - there are some VERY knowledgable DUers who debunked this |
ChavezSpeakstheTruth |
Sep-10-04 07:00 AM |
#133 |
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Yikes. I started out thinking this was a Rove plant, |
Imalittleteapot |
Sep-09-04 08:51 PM |
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Oh for Pete's sake!!! |
liburl |
Sep-09-04 10:37 PM |
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Helloooo! |
HFishbine |
Sep-09-04 08:54 PM |
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I'm game - I have my samples here - I'll look at those |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 09:13 PM |
#30 |
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The world is full of lying asskissers... |
hexola |
Sep-10-04 09:41 AM |
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NOT forged with Word and I could testify in court about it. |
Heath.Hunnicutt |
Sep-09-04 08:55 PM |
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ok. that sounded convincing. let's hope we get more authoritative |
bransonfu |
Sep-09-04 08:58 PM |
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I think they are real....the story fits shrub to a T..........the damage.. |
Gin |
Sep-09-04 09:03 PM |
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"the story fits shrub to a T" |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Sep-09-04 09:23 PM |
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Great assessment, and also |
Carolab |
Sep-09-04 11:48 PM |
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Another thing I noticed |
dansolo |
Sep-10-04 11:54 AM |
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Thanks of this post! |
merh |
Sep-10-04 09:14 AM |
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maybe |
Kanzeon |
Sep-09-04 08:56 PM |
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What's with all you paranoid people? Get a grip!!! |
napi21 |
Sep-09-04 09:03 PM |
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As a gambler, I would give 1/10 odds they are not forgeries |
AwsieDooger |
Sep-09-04 09:36 PM |
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We are not Columbo. These are "compelling' |
goclark |
Sep-09-04 10:57 PM |
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Are you being sarcastic? |
cat_girl25 |
Sep-09-04 09:16 PM |
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no |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 09:45 PM |
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"Sure looked like Oswald to me" |
HFishbine |
Sep-10-04 12:49 AM |
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I hope your post is a joke..... |
dennis4868 |
Sep-09-04 09:23 PM |
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Oh my gosh... |
Texas_Dem |
Sep-09-04 09:28 PM |
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Absolutely. Isn't it more likely than not that * was suspended? |
alcuno |
Sep-09-04 09:32 PM |
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I think we KNOW he was suspended from flying. |
Frodo |
Sep-09-04 09:51 PM |
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I get very different results when retyping the CYA document |
0rganism |
Sep-09-04 09:35 PM |
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Bad news for * either way. Pick your story: |
Pobeka |
Sep-09-04 09:38 PM |
#46 |
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that damned ANDY ROONEY did it! |
dweller |
Sep-09-04 09:42 PM |
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Not Times New Roman |
Cogito ergo doleo |
Sep-09-04 09:43 PM |
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Well done. |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-09-04 09:50 PM |
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Do me a favor and compare a 1 in Times New Roman to this document |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 09:52 PM |
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Thank You. |
enigmatic |
Sep-09-04 09:54 PM |
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What is this??? |
zaj |
Sep-09-04 10:06 PM |
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A blowup of the "2" |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 10:12 PM |
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I've typed it in Word. I've typed in Quark. I've made pdfs. |
Imalittleteapot |
Sep-09-04 09:45 PM |
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It does look typed |
Cogito ergo doleo |
Sep-09-04 09:53 PM |
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The superscript is DEFINITELY not the same |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-09-04 09:53 PM |
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Print it out and see what happens to the superscript |
Jonathan Little |
Sep-09-04 09:55 PM |
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Been there, done that, used their document |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 10:03 PM |
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Damn! |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:08 PM |
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BULLSHIT |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 10:14 PM |
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What is the known character of this site |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:31 PM |
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I recreated it myself using their Word document: |
Jonathan Little |
Sep-09-04 11:22 PM |
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I'm still thinking |
HFishbine |
Sep-10-04 12:53 AM |
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I re-typed one of the docs |
mmcghenn |
Sep-10-04 12:11 PM |
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Post your thoughts on the Freeper site |
Onlooker |
Sep-09-04 09:55 PM |
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Q: Why does line four from paragraph 1 look so different? |
brentspeak |
Sep-09-04 10:00 PM |
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It doesnt look different |
Cogito ergo doleo |
Sep-09-04 10:12 PM |
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Photocopiers and faxes can distort things |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:28 PM |
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Looking at all of this, I'm convinced they're not forged. What is CBS'... |
Mary Pat |
Sep-09-04 10:01 PM |
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Fugeddaboudit - CBS stands by the memos. |
2004 Victory |
Sep-09-04 10:04 PM |
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I have to agree |
djg21 |
Sep-09-04 10:21 PM |
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absolutely not |
ima_sinnic |
Sep-09-04 10:06 PM |
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The Little Green Footballs moron has no typography expertise |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 10:10 PM |
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By the way, Walt |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:35 PM |
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LOL!!! |
hexola |
Sep-10-04 09:25 AM |
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Well said. n/t |
Cogito ergo doleo |
Sep-09-04 10:15 PM |
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This is a ridiculous fucking topic... |
vivalarev |
Sep-09-04 10:06 PM |
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are you sure? |
dweller |
Sep-09-04 10:26 PM |
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Looks like the source for authentication would disagree with you |
Walt Starr |
Sep-09-04 10:19 PM |
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Are you sure that wasn't just someone POSING as General Hodges? nt |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-09-04 10:30 PM |
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BTW, folks, Walt's post here is THE proof we need. |
BullGooseLoony |
Sep-09-04 10:31 PM |
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lol lol lol lol |
seabeyond |
Sep-09-04 10:47 PM |
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It was an imposter. |
HFishbine |
Sep-10-04 12:57 AM |
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All you have to do is get the original document used in CBS story |
zulchzulu |
Sep-09-04 10:22 PM |
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With what little faith I have left |
Clinton Crusader |
Sep-09-04 10:25 PM |
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We who? |
Bushneedstogo |
Sep-09-04 10:30 PM |
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Look also at "Alabama" and "I will not rate". |
athena |
Sep-09-04 10:33 PM |
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I know what you're saying - just like the Brady Bunch episode |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:44 PM |
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Photocopying wouldn't produce the same effect. |
athena |
Sep-09-04 11:01 PM |
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Are you all experts in type? |
footinmouth |
Sep-09-04 10:39 PM |
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get that damn thing out and retype one of the memos, please |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 11:00 PM |
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Just Join the Bush Campaign will ya? |
saracat |
Sep-09-04 10:39 PM |
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saracat |
gospelized |
Sep-09-04 11:02 PM |
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Let's pull other documents, and see what they look like. DUH. |
Gregorian |
Sep-09-04 10:40 PM |
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I hate to kick this thread but... |
ContinentalOp |
Sep-09-04 10:44 PM |
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Random info |
Must_B_Free |
Sep-09-04 10:57 PM |
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Sigh... |
ContinentalOp |
Sep-09-04 11:05 PM |
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IBM Selectrics had proportional spacing 1970's |
Cogito ergo doleo |
Sep-09-04 11:26 PM |
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They most certainly did |
footinmouth |
Sep-09-04 11:36 PM |
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I thought there would never be anything better than an IBM |
DemBones DemBones |
Sep-10-04 01:16 AM |
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From your 1980's experience, you tell us about the 1970's? |
Bridget Burke |
Sep-10-04 01:26 AM |
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"suppose the ball was interchangeable" |
sandnsea |
Sep-10-04 03:05 AM |
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Hey, I kept my selectric balls for years, long after my red selectric |
henslee |
Sep-10-04 07:02 AM |
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I understand why the Freeepers are playing this game. |
girl gone mad |
Sep-09-04 11:08 PM |
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So Times New Roman is what was on the typewriter head |
SoCalDemocrat |
Sep-09-04 11:11 PM |
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How do you type the "th" superscript, we have a Selectric II here |
FoeOfBush |
Sep-10-04 12:28 PM |
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Oh good GOD! |
ibegurpard |
Sep-09-04 11:12 PM |
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What crap. |
GaryL |
Sep-09-04 11:25 PM |
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I agree...Rove Implant...nt |
phish420 |
Sep-10-04 02:56 AM |
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Yeah and the pilot logs that they just released |
saracat |
Sep-10-04 04:08 AM |
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And funny how *someone* knew to post the documents at FreeRepublic... |
Junkdrawer |
Sep-10-04 09:37 AM |
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Here is the IBM selectric font that was used for the memo |
nomad1776 |
Sep-10-04 09:40 AM |
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Cant resist a kick. |
henslee |
Sep-10-04 12:50 PM |
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This has already been debunked. |
devinsgram |
Sep-10-04 01:00 PM |
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if it were that easy to tell, hex--er Must_be_free, document experts |
John_H |
Sep-10-04 01:13 PM |
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I agree with you. This is from Rove. |
BurtWorm |
Sep-10-04 01:23 PM |
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and I think you've lost ALL credibility here, at least with me |
frank frankly |
Sep-10-04 05:52 PM |
#153 |