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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-31-08 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. You're right on both counts
but the Reagan-Carter race is not the only time there was a huge surge at the end

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  -Reagan gained as many as 10 pts during the last days of the '80 race - keep fighting! smkyle1  Oct-31-08 11:58 AM   #0 
  - Reagan had a debate the week BEFORE the election. Obama had an infomercial.  Bicoastal   Oct-31-08 11:59 AM   #1 
  - Not just a debate, it was the ONLY debate...  DrToast   Oct-31-08 12:01 PM   #5 
  - and Barack Obama is black  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 12:07 PM   #6 
     - LOL  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-31-08 12:10 PM   #10 
     - LOL What are you saying?  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 12:12 PM   #11 
     - "non-racists whites are surprised by the racists remarks" - your post is silly on so many levels  Essene   Oct-31-08 12:32 PM   #23 
     - My mom is a racist Obama supporter  Cats Against Frist   Nov-01-08 02:20 PM   #91 
     - yes, we live in a racist country but why is my post "silly on so many levels"?  smkyle1   Nov-02-08 06:47 PM   #108 
     - he didn't turn black a week before the election  orangepeel68   Oct-31-08 03:01 PM   #43 
     - you make a good point here  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 10:50 PM   #44 
     - Bullshit  Baltoman991   Oct-31-08 11:14 PM   #53 
  - You're crazy. John McCain is not Ronald Reagan.  Whalestoe   Oct-31-08 11:59 AM   #2 
  - McCain is no Reagan  ps1074   Oct-31-08 12:00 PM   #3 
  - The only debate between Reagan and Carter was on 10/28..... AFTER the final polls....  scheming daemons   Oct-31-08 12:01 PM   #4 
  - Reagan had an Iranian hostage crisis being manipulated in his favor  laconicsax   Oct-31-08 12:08 PM   #7 
  - True. Interesting how the hostages were released on Reagan's inauguration day.  SurferBoy   Oct-31-08 12:17 PM   #14 
  - Hostages were released on inauguration day because Carter finished the deal a few days before, BUT  Hippo_Tron   Oct-31-08 12:25 PM   #17 
     - I thought about that at the time-Was Reagan's possible involvment discussed much?  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 10:54 PM   #45 
        - All the time, every day. (n/t)  Iggo   Nov-01-08 02:13 AM   #79 
        - what does n/t mean?  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 03:50 PM   #94 
        - Wasn't alive back then  Hippo_Tron   Nov-01-08 02:06 PM   #90 
           - See: October Surprise  sixmile   Nov-01-08 02:34 PM   #92 
              - I was not that political back then but. . .  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 03:53 PM   #95 
              - thanks for the links  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 03:53 PM   #96 
  - Is this something that lots of people knew about?  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:28 PM   #57 
  - The surge is going towards Obama.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-31-08 12:09 PM   #8 
  - maybe I've been burned too many times. . . .  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 12:25 PM   #16 
  - If my recollection is correct...and this was the first election I voted in...  S_E_Fudd   Oct-31-08 12:09 PM   #9 
  - The hostage crisis was in full swing at this point in the 1980 race.  Alter Ego   Oct-31-08 12:13 PM   #12 
  - Good Point but. . . .  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 12:15 PM   #13 
     - There's not enough Viagra in the medicine chest this time around for a final surge  Generic Brad   Oct-31-08 11:21 PM   #54 
        - that's funny. Hope you're right.  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 03:49 PM   #93 
  - This election is in our hands now...  BlueIdaho   Oct-31-08 12:22 PM   #15 
  - that's the spirit!!!  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 10:56 PM   #46 
  - Apples and oranges.  Drunken Irishman   Oct-31-08 12:27 PM   #18 
  - and this is 2008 the age of the internet (youtube etc.)  Sodan   Oct-31-08 12:33 PM   #24 
     - And there wasn't much state polling done back then.  Drunken Irishman   Oct-31-08 12:45 PM   #27 
  - It is truly bizarre beyond all comprehension how some DUers IN-FUCKING-SIST on being overconfident.  The Stranger   Oct-31-08 12:28 PM   #19 
  - No one is overconfident.  Drunken Irishman   Oct-31-08 12:30 PM   #22 
  - No, they're not conceding jack shit. Although we're riducling them, they are saying that their  The Stranger   Oct-31-08 12:46 PM   #28 
     - Yes, believe Republican numbers over Obama's and published polls.  Drunken Irishman   Oct-31-08 12:48 PM   #30 
     - "The only people pushing these fake internals are the McCain camp..." Agreed!  Puzzler   Oct-31-08 01:46 PM   #33 
     - This is in no way, shape, or form like the 2004 election.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-31-08 01:23 PM   #32 
     - The exit polls were not "off." The voting machines were.  No Elephants   Oct-31-08 02:07 PM   #34 
     - Exactly!!!!  Mojorabbit   Nov-01-08 02:21 AM   #80 
  - You are absolutely spot on.  drumwolf   Nov-02-08 01:17 AM   #107 
  - Oh PULLEEZZE  Ozma   Oct-31-08 12:29 PM   #20 
  - "Poppy" Bush was no great campaigner, was he?  Lionhearted   Nov-01-08 12:01 PM   #88 
  - Much as I don't like Reagan  kwolf68   Oct-31-08 12:30 PM   #21 
  - The Reagan comeback is a myth  krawhitham   Oct-31-08 12:38 PM   #25 
  - Exactly. Carter was already behind, unfortunately  relayerbob   Nov-02-08 01:56 AM   #106 
  - Looks like Obama is this yrs Reagan, how bout that gallup poll. Go Obama!!!  AkFemDem   Oct-31-08 12:38 PM   #26 
  - Obama is Reagan in this case. He's our Reagan.  truthisfreedom   Oct-31-08 12:48 PM   #29 
  - sorry, but that's not only simplistic, it's misinterpreting history.  cali   Oct-31-08 12:51 PM   #31 
  - As President, Carter's approval ratings were almost as low as Bush's are now. It would be as if  No Elephants   Oct-31-08 02:13 PM   #35 
  - I agree that we must remain vigilant. But really, it's Obama who is the "Reagan" here...  bklyngrl60   Oct-31-08 02:17 PM   #36 
  - Yes, Obama could win in a landslide, it's true... So let's work hard!  David__77   Oct-31-08 02:34 PM   #37 
  - Okay  blogslut   Oct-31-08 02:40 PM   #38 
  - Whether or not this is an appropriate comparison, the call to KEEP WORKING UNTIL THE POLLS CLOSE is  AZBlue   Oct-31-08 02:40 PM   #39 
  - you completely understand the reason for this original post  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 02:57 PM   #41 
  - Not at all the same thing. First, way more undecideds. Second, there was a debate.  Zynx   Oct-31-08 02:42 PM   #40 
  - Not the same deal in 1980.......  suston96   Oct-31-08 02:58 PM   #42 
  - thank you this is good information  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:03 PM   #50 
  - John McCain is not Ronald Reagan. He does not have the popularity or charisma of Reagan.  Left Is Write   Oct-31-08 10:57 PM   #47 
  - You're right on both counts  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:01 PM   #49 
  - The American voter has changed, too  Lionhearted   Oct-31-08 11:24 PM   #56 
     - but didn't Rove use Atwater's same tactics?  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:30 PM   #58 
        - Indeed, Rove learned at Atwater's knee  Lionhearted   Nov-01-08 01:47 AM   #74 
           - or maybe we now moving in different circles  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 12:33 PM   #89 
              - The current disaster on so many fronts has caught people's attention..  Lionhearted   Nov-01-08 04:07 PM   #97 
                 - well if these disasters don't wake people up . . .  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 04:11 PM   #98 
                    - Job losses will rise as the recession moves forward  Lionhearted   Nov-02-08 01:29 AM   #103 
  - John McCain is no Ronald Reagan  HughMoran   Oct-31-08 11:00 PM   #48 
  - shhhh I voted for him too and I'm ashamed too  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:06 PM   #51 
  - Obama is wearing Reagan's shoes in this election  Quixote1818   Oct-31-08 11:09 PM   #52 
  - this is good input. I'm going to pass it on.  smkyle1   Oct-31-08 11:22 PM   #55 
     - It means you flamed out n/t  Every Man A King   Nov-01-08 12:19 AM   #59 
        - I hate to be a pain in the butt - but what does n/t mean?  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 07:58 PM   #100 
  - Obama isn't in office, during a recession  eugeneliberal   Nov-01-08 01:17 AM   #60 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-08 01:27 AM   #61 
  - Cool.  Drunken Irishman   Nov-01-08 01:30 AM   #62 
  - Breaking News!  Tilion   Nov-01-08 01:32 AM   #63 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-08 01:33 AM   #64 
     - Buh bye  pokerfan   Nov-01-08 01:49 AM   #76 
  - Breaking news!  LeftyMom   Nov-01-08 01:34 AM   #65 
  - IBTTS  laconicsax   Nov-01-08 01:36 AM   #66 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-08 01:39 AM   #69 
  - In time, you'll see, we're right. It's the only way.  billyoc   Nov-01-08 01:37 AM   #67 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Nov-01-08 01:40 AM   #70 
  - Oh, look!  Oeditpus Rex   Nov-01-08 01:37 AM   #68 
  - He bladed at 45 degrees poorly.  billyoc   Nov-01-08 01:48 AM   #75 
  - Get a life.  FloridaJudy   Nov-01-08 01:42 AM   #71 
  - !  FloridaJudy   Nov-01-08 01:45 AM   #72 
  - Does your partner know you're out fucking liberals? nt  antfarm   Nov-01-08 01:45 AM   #73 
  - Well, that was brief and unsatisfying  FloridaJudy   Nov-01-08 01:50 AM   #77 
  - deleted messages?  classiccwhitee   Nov-01-08 01:58 AM   #78 
     - A nasty little person  FloridaJudy   Nov-01-08 05:45 AM   #81 
  - Things are different. Look at all the early voting.  mmonk   Nov-01-08 06:19 AM   #82 
  - I voted yesterday...  Lionhearted   Nov-01-08 11:01 AM   #83 
     - Lol  mmonk   Nov-01-08 11:24 AM   #85 
  - John McCain is NOT Ronald Reagan. But you're right. Keep fighting!!  Phx_Dem   Nov-01-08 11:21 AM   #84 
  - Iran Hostages?  Tutonic   Nov-01-08 11:46 AM   #86 
  - Reagan made a deal with Iran to sell them weapons in exchange for hostages..  bushisanidiot   Nov-01-08 11:52 AM   #87 
  - You're right. It's all coming back to me now....  smkyle1   Nov-01-08 04:18 PM   #99 
  - yeah  0955Forrest   Nov-01-08 08:20 PM   #101 
  - I bet Obama's GOTV effort  reflection   Nov-01-08 08:35 PM   #102 
  - It keeps getting harder and harder to concern troll these days.  ROh70   Nov-02-08 01:37 AM   #104 
  - Morton Finklebean made up 10 points in one hour once!!!!  relayerbob   Nov-02-08 01:49 AM   #105 
  - Fucking worthless doom & gloomers.  BlooInBloo   Nov-02-08 06:49 PM   #109 
  - Obama is this years reagan, not mccain  sarahdemva   Nov-02-08 06:53 PM   #110 
  - McCain isn't Reagan. McCain is fading, not gaining. n/t  renie408   Nov-02-08 06:55 PM   #111 
 

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