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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-28-08 12:42 AM
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6. Zogby is full of shit
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  -Zogby 4 point lead (49-45) rises to 9 points (51-42) using Rasmussen party ID weights Chasing Dreams  Oct-28-08 12:28 AM   #0 
  - Zogby Does Not Believe in Weighting on Self-Reported Party ID  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 12:31 AM   #1 
  - Zogby's track record has pretty much proven him to be  msallied   Oct-28-08 12:33 AM   #2 
  - Well, He Showed Himself Biased Toward Kerry Last Time  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 12:45 AM   #8 
     - No, I don't like him because he's a push-polling fraud  msallied   Oct-28-08 12:48 AM   #11 
     - I Didn't Follow All the Details of the "Push-Polling" Controversy  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 01:15 AM   #24 
        - Someone screen-captured the poll itself.  msallied   Oct-28-08 01:24 AM   #26 
           - Yes, I Saw That Screen Shot  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 01:41 AM   #28 
     - No, I like him as a person,  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 12:49 AM   #12 
     - Since Nate Silver's Name is So Ubiquitous on That Site,  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 02:22 AM   #30 
     - We dont like him cuz his polls have sucked, he push polls, releases Internet polls leaks to Drudge  hnmnf   Oct-28-08 01:05 AM   #21 
  - Fine. But that is the difference between the widening and narrowing poll stories in the MSM.  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 12:39 AM   #4 
  - What Gallup is Doing  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 12:58 AM   #19 
  - What kind of Democrat leaks their numbers early to Drudge and Push Polls for Newsmaxx?  hnmnf   Oct-28-08 01:15 AM   #25 
  - Zogby actually does weight by party.  pnwmom   Oct-28-08 03:57 AM   #32 
  - Honestly, I doubt that has much effect  democrattotheend   Oct-28-08 05:43 AM   #35 
  - "Principle" has exacly ZERO to do with modeling.  BlooInBloo   Oct-28-08 12:44 AM   #7 
  - Weighting on Self-Identification  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 12:51 AM   #13 
     - That's ridiculous. Women have leaned toward the Democratic candidate for the last four cycles.  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 01:00 AM   #20 
        - No, Not at All  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 01:13 AM   #23 
           - I'm going to quibble a bit more, but at least you are apparently agreeing that Zogby's weights may  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 01:25 AM   #27 
              - You are Correct That Income is Self Reported  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 01:57 AM   #29 
  - I agree with him in principle also  Awsi Dooger   Oct-28-08 12:46 AM   #9 
  - I Didn't Know That's How He Did It  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 12:52 AM   #14 
  - That is no longer his position, although it is the position of the national  pnwmom   Oct-28-08 03:56 AM   #31 
     - Thank You.  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 09:00 AM   #36 
        - The pollster determines the methodology. But indirectly, the customer does,  pnwmom   Oct-28-08 10:37 AM   #37 
           - Is That True?  ribofunk   Oct-28-08 11:43 AM   #38 
              - Thanks for the article. Here's one you might be interested in,  pnwmom   Oct-28-08 12:53 PM   #40 
  - 11% DEM??  Amonester   Oct-28-08 12:33 AM   #3 
  - Not sure where your getting at, but the table is a little hard to read  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 12:42 AM   #5 
     - I was referring to the 11% registered DEM (?) who said they'll...  Amonester   Oct-28-08 12:53 AM   #15 
  - Zogby is full of shit  BrentTaylor   Oct-28-08 12:42 AM   #6 
  - So does this mean Rasmussen's numbers will be more favorable for Obama tomorrow?  Drunken Irishman   Oct-28-08 12:46 AM   #10 
  - Doubtful. I seem to recall that he has independents going only slightly toward Obama.  Chasing Dreams   Oct-28-08 12:53 AM   #16 
     - Well just as long as it doesn't tighten again.  Drunken Irishman   Oct-28-08 12:55 AM   #17 
     - And, to answer the pollster's call, they have to call them in the first place.  Amonester   Oct-28-08 12:57 AM   #18 
  - It makes no sense to me that Zogby or anyone else would rely  WCGreen   Oct-28-08 01:10 AM   #22 
  - It makes no sense that anyone would use party weighting at all,  pnwmom   Oct-28-08 04:02 AM   #33 
  - Zo(m)by Is A Pundit First And Then A Pollster  DemocratSinceBirth   Oct-28-08 04:05 AM   #34 
  - Zogby has never been right.  budkin   Oct-28-08 11:46 AM   #39 

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