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Tue Oct-28-08 12:48 AM
Response to Reply #4 |
| 110. It's not all about the presidential race |
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It's about other races too. Right now, Republicans are having to fund congressional incumbents in very red states. Democrats could end up with 60 seats in the Senate and in the House increased majorities. So, the Presidential race isn't the only reason to focus on all states.
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| -Will the DLC and it's boosters ever admit |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 07:14 PM |
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Hell, not only will they admit it, they'll do all they can to steal the credit |
orestes |
Oct-27-08 07:16 PM |
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Check |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 07:21 PM |
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Not only did they NOT give credit where it was due, they actually panned Dean! |
Doremus |
Oct-27-08 07:25 PM |
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Carville = Wolf in Sheep's Clothing |
Starlight |
Oct-27-08 07:33 PM |
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James Carvillle gave us the first Democratic President since 1976 |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:36 PM |
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Carville does what's good for Carville. And my remarks were NOT inaccurate. |
Doremus |
Oct-27-08 07:40 PM |
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I certainly do remember. I'll never forget. |
Starlight |
Oct-27-08 07:43 PM |
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Are you denying that Carville ran Clinton's two campaigns and gave us |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:51 PM |
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Nice straw man. |
Doremus |
Oct-27-08 09:05 PM |
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No straw man, no unrelated territory, it's YOU that's offering the straw man |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 09:22 PM |
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And that Democratic president nearly destroyed the Democratic Party |
dansolo |
Oct-27-08 09:31 PM |
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Are you referring to FDR? Because, by your reasoning... |
wyldwolf |
Oct-27-08 09:41 PM |
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I agree... |
Marthanna |
Oct-27-08 07:47 PM |
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I haven't read the Thompson stuff about the Clinton campaign |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:53 PM |
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Carville was NOT responsible for Bill Clinton's presidency... |
JaneQPublic |
Oct-28-08 03:11 PM |
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100% Correct n/t |
VenusRising |
Oct-27-08 07:24 PM |
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They will never admit it. Not ever. |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-27-08 07:16 PM |
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What Happened To The DLC? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-27-08 07:16 PM |
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They are hibernating with the RNC. |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Oct-27-08 07:19 PM |
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No we are still living |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:24 PM |
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small giggle. nt |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Oct-27-08 07:57 PM |
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50 State strategy isn't a winner |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:17 PM |
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So We're Actually Losing Now? |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-27-08 07:21 PM |
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We are not losing, but the 50 state strategy isn't happening |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:25 PM |
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You don't really need someone to actually say that . . . |
donco6 |
Oct-27-08 07:28 PM |
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Yes, this person really does. |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-27-08 07:28 PM |
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apparently |
Starlight |
Oct-27-08 07:35 PM |
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It Means We're Active In 50 States, Not Winning In 50 States |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-27-08 07:29 PM |
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I can give Howard Dean credit where credit is due, so if I can show that respect to Dean then I'd |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:33 PM |
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No, apparently you can't. See #4. |
Starlight |
Oct-27-08 07:44 PM |
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changing the subject from your misreprestation of the 50-state strategy? |
CreekDog |
Oct-27-08 09:26 PM |
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Just so long as you don't ask that I give any credit to Schumer. |
LooseWilly |
Oct-28-08 01:04 AM |
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Correct. It's about building the party in those dark red states. |
FatDave |
Oct-28-08 03:29 AM |
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that you are arguing this reveals that you are dishonest or ignorant of the 50-state strategy |
CreekDog |
Oct-27-08 09:24 PM |
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Can you tell me when the appropriate time is ? |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 07:23 PM |
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After the election |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:28 PM |
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Well, then, you'd better get on the train. |
donco6 |
Oct-27-08 07:32 PM |
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(facepalm) |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-27-08 07:24 PM |
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best reply |
Bucky |
Oct-27-08 08:12 PM |
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You've got to be kidding. |
donco6 |
Oct-27-08 07:26 PM |
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DLC is dead? Dunno, just checked my pulse, so this one is still alive |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:30 PM |
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You'll be in a museum soon. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-27-08 07:32 PM |
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It's a good thing that Senator Obama doesn't think like you do |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:39 PM |
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Congratulations on your victory. |
Ikonoklast |
Oct-27-08 07:44 PM |
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If NOBODY had the DLC mindset |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-27-08 09:20 PM |
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you are saying we shouldn't have ANY presence in the states you mention? |
CreekDog |
Oct-27-08 09:23 PM |
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Um, 'cuz the DLC sucks and should be drowned in a bathtub? |
Oregonian |
Oct-28-08 12:47 AM |
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It's not all about the presidential race |
KingFlorez |
Oct-28-08 12:48 AM |
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Except that there are people in those states right now... |
IAmJacksSmirkingRevenge |
Oct-28-08 07:36 AM |
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50 State Strategy IS A BIG WINNER and I have been thrilled to see it. |
Overseas |
Oct-28-08 12:05 PM |
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Howard Dean convinced Bill Clinton a few years back about it... |
cynatnite |
Oct-27-08 07:17 PM |
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Rahm Emanuel And Jim Carville Were Apoplectic At Dean Two Years Ago |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-27-08 07:23 PM |
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I do remember Carville turned into a first rate asshole over all that... |
cynatnite |
Oct-27-08 07:28 PM |
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Carville Was Widely Seen As A Clinton Proxy |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-27-08 07:30 PM |
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I have no reason to believe he was acting on their behalf... |
cynatnite |
Oct-27-08 07:33 PM |
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Emmanuel won back Congress for us and Carville helped get Pres. Clinton elected twice |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:11 PM |
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Dead Wrong. Your facts are wrong. Here are the correct ones. |
madfloridian |
Oct-27-08 09:20 PM |
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Emmanuel ran the Congressional Campaign in 2006 that resulted in our regaining Congress |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 09:26 PM |
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That's what my posts are about. You did not read them. |
madfloridian |
Oct-27-08 09:46 PM |
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Emmanual recruits lifelong Repubs to run with a (D) after their name. |
dicksteele |
Oct-28-08 12:56 AM |
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Emmanuel did no such fucking thing. |
FatDave |
Oct-28-08 03:36 AM |
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sure he did |
wyldwolf |
Oct-28-08 08:50 AM |
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This is NOT the time for such a thread designed to DIVIDE people |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:23 PM |
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This is a, "conversation " not an attack . |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 07:27 PM |
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Agreed. |
MrsGrumpy |
Oct-27-08 07:29 PM |
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Okay, I'm cool with a "conversation", I just would prefer no attacking happen |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:43 PM |
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See reply #4. |
Starlight |
Oct-27-08 07:41 PM |
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I said it upthread and I'll say it again: I hope the DLC is marginalized out of existence. |
Doremus |
Oct-27-08 07:29 PM |
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The only question I have is ... |
Laelth |
Oct-27-08 07:31 PM |
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They'll coattail and try to take credit |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 07:34 PM |
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Once we rid ourselves of Republicans, we'll have to rid outselves of the DLC. |
polichick |
Oct-27-08 07:35 PM |
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So we get rid of all those who don't think or believe like us? n/t |
cynatnite |
Oct-27-08 07:37 PM |
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If that's what you call voting. |
polichick |
Oct-27-08 07:38 PM |
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Just threw me seeing in how it was worded... |
cynatnite |
Oct-27-08 07:43 PM |
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No problem. :) |
polichick |
Oct-27-08 07:45 PM |
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so, are you going to vote out 20+ Dem senators, 60+ house members... |
wyldwolf |
Oct-27-08 08:20 PM |
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Most of them will fade into the woodwork on their own... |
polichick |
Oct-27-08 08:21 PM |
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What writing on the wall would that be? |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:24 PM |
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that would be her high school bathroom wall |
wyldwolf |
Oct-27-08 08:26 PM |
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Lol for the first comment |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:40 PM |
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The problem is with a fillibuster majority, DLC and Blue dogs lose their "excuse"! |
calipendence |
Oct-27-08 09:00 PM |
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A primary to look forward to - especially now that we've registered... |
polichick |
Oct-28-08 06:42 AM |
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you make some wild assumptions |
wyldwolf |
Oct-28-08 08:52 AM |
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Writing on the wall: THE DLC DAYS ARE OVER... |
polichick |
Oct-27-08 08:27 PM |
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that explains why they're padding the senate (and the house again) this year |
wyldwolf |
Oct-27-08 08:32 PM |
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Whatever |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:44 PM |
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Some people on the LW blogs are as nutty as the ones on the extreme right. |
Beacool |
Oct-28-08 12:41 AM |
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I think you missed the point... |
polichick |
Oct-28-08 06:24 AM |
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This is kind of amazing...so the grassroots are taking the center back to the left |
genna |
Oct-28-08 09:03 AM |
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I've been an activist for 30+ years, and imo more and more Dems are proudly reclaiming... |
polichick |
Oct-28-08 09:25 AM |
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One at a time. |
PassingFair |
Oct-27-08 09:53 PM |
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Yep. |
polichick |
Oct-28-08 06:27 AM |
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In full armor... |
Moochy |
Oct-27-08 11:46 PM |
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LOL - that obnoxious poster might as well be a Republican. |
polichick |
Oct-28-08 06:41 AM |
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LOL! such a naive little girl |
wyldwolf |
Oct-28-08 08:48 AM |
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Is the DLC as "yesterday" as the GOP will be in the wake of an Obama win? |
mrone2 |
Oct-27-08 07:37 PM |
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The DLC as it exists today really sucks, but you are truly foolish |
mtnsnake |
Oct-27-08 07:45 PM |
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We can work together, we are the same party, and thank you for your |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:02 PM |
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You are very welcome, and you are very right |
mtnsnake |
Oct-27-08 08:18 PM |
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Exactly |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:34 PM |
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Senator Obama is doing well because he didn't vote for the war. |
PassingFair |
Oct-27-08 09:57 PM |
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I know exactly who the founding members of the DLC are and |
jaysunb |
Oct-27-08 11:32 PM |
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Great post. |
Beacool |
Oct-28-08 02:33 PM |
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The fatal flaw |
Samantha |
Oct-27-08 10:30 PM |
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Some of yous should be on your knees thanking the DLC for wining back both houses |
Fluffdaddy |
Oct-27-08 07:50 PM |
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We won back Congress because of Rahm Emmanuel's strategy |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 07:56 PM |
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OMG................I am not alone |
Fluffdaddy |
Oct-27-08 08:02 PM |
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Well |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:05 PM |
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more than that, I'd bet. |
ulysses |
Oct-27-08 08:24 PM |
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Well yes, as ever I was being modest |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:49 PM |
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ROFL.... put.. the crack pipe...down.... |
dionysus |
Oct-28-08 12:29 PM |
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Kick & REC. |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Oct-27-08 07:58 PM |
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Can we wait at least 5 minutes after Barack is sworn-in to start eating our own? |
OmahaBlueDog |
Oct-27-08 08:07 PM |
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Thank you, this is what I've been saying in this thread |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:12 PM |
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yep.. second ugly thread tonight that's threatening our unity. |
progressivebydesign |
Oct-27-08 08:16 PM |
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Here's an answer |
wyldwolf |
Oct-27-08 08:12 PM |
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Thank you Wyldwolf |
...of J.Temperance |
Oct-27-08 08:16 PM |
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Let's look at their states. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Oct-28-08 09:49 AM |
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Except for one minor detail |
wyldwolf |
Oct-28-08 10:56 AM |
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I agree they don't know who the DLC is. |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Oct-28-08 12:01 PM |
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Exactly, in 2004 he probably wouldn't have even gotten the nomination. |
Beacool |
Oct-28-08 02:40 PM |
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Worked great for Howard Dean in 2004 |
texasleo |
Oct-27-08 08:19 PM |
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The DLC and the Left both need each other, and the sooner we all realize that the better. |
Forkboy |
Oct-27-08 08:24 PM |
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If you change the definition of "Left" to dishwatery liberal |
Hardrada |
Oct-27-08 09:14 PM |
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I don't think anyone claims that's the only reason. |
madfloridian |
Oct-27-08 09:24 PM |
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Let's not confuse actual moderates with artificial (corporate) "centrism" |
Sebastian Doyle |
Oct-27-08 09:34 PM |
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Correct Forkboy - we must coexist |
mvd |
Oct-28-08 12:20 AM |
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While I would totally prefer to have a further left candidate... |
Forkboy |
Oct-28-08 12:38 AM |
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I see what you mean |
mvd |
Oct-28-08 01:12 AM |
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IMO the DLC is going to pass steadily into irrelevance |
Hippo_Tron |
Oct-28-08 12:41 AM |
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K&R |
bvar22 |
Oct-27-08 11:10 PM |
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What is the point of this thread? Especially right now, 1 week before the election? |
MetricSystem |
Oct-27-08 11:51 PM |
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Cheers to Howard Dean & the DNC - Fuck the DLC! |
LaPera |
Oct-28-08 12:14 AM |
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Nice divisive thread you decided to post a week before the election. |
Beacool |
Oct-28-08 12:37 AM |
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see post # 100 |
jaysunb |
Oct-28-08 12:48 PM |
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Obama is running center |
TheKentuckian |
Oct-28-08 02:49 AM |
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Not a chance |
sampsonblk |
Oct-28-08 07:44 AM |
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Seems like most of those DLC folks have moved on |
LibFromWV |
Oct-28-08 09:05 AM |
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The DLC will be happy to admit |
quakerboy |
Oct-28-08 11:01 AM |
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LOL ! |
jaysunb |
Oct-28-08 04:21 PM |
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I don't know that any of us really knows how Obama will govern. |
ulysses |
Oct-28-08 02:59 PM |
#138 |