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Erin Elizabeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-20-08 09:22 AM
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Sorry for the all-caps, but the whole time I've been listening to this "oooo he's a MUSLIM!" shit I've been thinking the same thing Powell said:

a) he's not but the BIGGER ANSWER IS

b) SO WHAT IF HE WAS???????

I mean what the hell, people? Muslims live and work and are born here in the US all the time. There are mosques all over this country, if we were in such horrible danger from Muslims, well, we'd be screwn, wouldn't we?

During the primaries of 2004, I helped another Democrat pass out some voting literature outside of a mosque. He taught me how to say Īd mubārak or Īd saīd. It was a great experience.

Oh and if anyone needs any ammo for the right wing loonies, here's BUSH'S greetings for Ramadan in ***2002*** from the White House website:

President's Greeting for Ramadan

I send greetings to Muslims in the United States and around the world as you observe the holy month of Ramadan.

Islam is a peace-loving faith that is practiced by more than one billion people, including millions of American Muslims. These proud citizens contribute to the diversity that makes our country strong, and the United States is grateful for the friendship and support of many Muslim Nations that are vital partners in the global coalition to fight against terrorism.

The Qur'an teaches that Ramadan is a time for fasting, prayer, worship, and contemplation. Muslims observe this month by renewing their dedication to caring for those in need, doing good deeds, and strengthening family and community ties. These actions reflect many of the values that Muslims share with people of other faiths across our Nation and around the world, including courage, compassion, and service.

America remains committed to freedom, justice, and opportunity for all people. During this season of reverence and examination, we continue to work together for a future of peace, tolerance, and understanding.

Laura joins me in sending our best wishes for a blessed time. May you be well during Ramadan and throughout the coming year.


What the hell, people? Of course he's a huge hypocrite, because he was giving those greetings and at the same time stoking fear in this country over Muslims, so crap on him for that. But it's SOP for a president to give greetings like this and I'd think if Muslims were all so scary scary that they wouldn't do that.

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  -Here is the photo Colin Powell was referring to on Meet the Press Cali_Democrat  Oct-19-08 10:44 AM   #0 
  - K&R  crazylikafox   Oct-19-08 10:45 AM   #1 
  - Beautiful and devastating.  polichick   Oct-19-08 10:45 AM   #2 
  - Thank you...  ImForGore   Oct-19-08 11:51 PM   #74 
     - BTW, that Nat Geographic photo is a guy n/t  jlacivita   Oct-20-08 04:26 PM   #98 
        - Oh for fuck sake.  Bunny   Oct-20-08 05:26 PM   #104 
  - Thank you for posting it  DesertedRose   Oct-19-08 10:45 AM   #3 
  - That's beautiful and oh so sad. nt  babylonsister   Oct-19-08 10:45 AM   #4 
  - Oh my.  gratefultobelib   Oct-19-08 10:46 AM   #5 
  - I teared up  yasmina27   Oct-19-08 10:48 AM   #6 
  - I thought 'I" was odd for getting choked up at the story. (n/t)  DaDeacon   Oct-20-08 08:34 AM   #88 
  - He was only 20  lizzieforkerry   Oct-19-08 10:49 AM   #7 
  - ...some photos of Spc. Kareem R. Khan  liberalla   Oct-20-08 06:41 AM   #83 
     - where Republicans dare not go  Supersedeas   Oct-20-08 03:31 PM   #96 
     - I'd love to have an avatar of him holding the kitten..  Tallison   Oct-20-08 06:20 PM   #106 
  - This was is Just. SO. Fucked.  calimary   Oct-19-08 10:51 AM   #8 
  - What a awful burden to bear.  progressoid   Oct-19-08 10:54 AM   #9 
  - a Highest Honored Arab American - Thank you Corporal Khan  asSEENonTV   Oct-19-08 10:55 AM   #10 
  - tears.  BklynChick   Oct-19-08 10:55 AM   #11 
  - Heartbreaking. n/t  myrna minx   Oct-19-08 10:56 AM   #12 
  - THIS HITS YOU IN THE HEART  uponit7771   Oct-19-08 10:57 AM   #13 
  - ...  Chorophyll   Oct-19-08 10:58 AM   #14 
  - make this photo even more famous, folks... powell just handed us a wonderful gift  Essene   Oct-19-08 11:00 AM   #15 
  - "let's make this guy's memory more important than joe the plumber"  Cali_Democrat   Oct-19-08 11:04 AM   #16 
  - And another amen to your amen.  Left Is Write   Oct-19-08 12:29 PM   #37 
  - Exactly! How can we do that? Let's all try, OK? With six degrees of separation..somebody's got  DrZeeLit   Oct-19-08 04:50 PM   #43 
  - Amen  npincus   Oct-19-08 06:58 PM   #56 
  - her name is Nisha  riverwalker   Oct-19-08 11:06 AM   #17 
  - Thank you so much for that  Cali_Democrat   Oct-19-08 11:29 AM   #21 
  - Again, thank you so much for that link to the guest book  Cali_Democrat   Oct-20-08 03:56 AM   #79 
  - For Kareem and every soldier killed in Iraq.  ProSense   Oct-19-08 11:14 AM   #18 
  - Beautiful point made by Powell-best part of a good endorsement.  tpi10d   Oct-19-08 11:23 AM   #19 
  - He was right, yet, MSM failed to call out grummpy  bluedawg12   Oct-19-08 11:28 AM   #20 
  - Powell gave a beautiful endorsement this morning. Very touching.  malik flavors   Oct-19-08 11:30 AM   #22 
  - So sad..liemcbush war  zidzi   Oct-19-08 11:30 AM   #23 
  - k&r  quantass   Oct-19-08 11:35 AM   #24 
  - I can't imagine what his parents are going through right now.  Chloroplast   Oct-19-08 11:35 AM   #25 
  - Possibly something akin to what black athletes went through coming home...  BlooInBloo   Oct-19-08 11:37 AM   #26 
  - I think WWII and minority soldiars would be applicable here  MadMaddie   Oct-19-08 08:42 PM   #63 
  - Agreed.  pinstikfartherin   Oct-20-08 09:09 AM   #89 
  - thanks  grantcart   Oct-19-08 11:40 AM   #27 
  - This kid deserves as much coverage as Joe the Plumber. nt  Quixote1818   Oct-19-08 11:40 AM   # 
  - One can only hope that the Corporate Media will do the right thing.  Cali_Democrat   Oct-19-08 12:08 PM   #31 
  - Thank you, K&R  TragedyandHope   Oct-19-08 11:40 AM   #28 
  - Watch "Section 60" on HBO.  Are_grits_groceries   Oct-19-08 11:44 AM   #29 
  - Thanks  Cali_Democrat   Oct-19-08 05:54 PM   #49 
  - My goodness this is truly a picture that will stand in the time of history  bigdarryl   Oct-19-08 11:47 AM   #30 
  - oh! that is heartbreaking  JitterbugPerfume   Oct-19-08 12:11 PM   #32 
  - This is the face of the Real America that Karl Rove has defaced for 8 years !!!  Ragazz68   Oct-19-08 12:17 PM   #33 
  - What a powerful image.  Lubernaut   Oct-19-08 12:17 PM   #34 
  - Oh my! Americans give every thing for their country, even when it's not appreciated  Heather MC   Oct-19-08 12:19 PM   #35 
  - Okay, that didn't just make me misty.  Left Is Write   Oct-19-08 12:28 PM   #36 
  - Words could not say more  Danascot   Oct-19-08 12:50 PM   #38 
  - ...  Hand   Oct-19-08 04:10 PM   #39 
  - I'll bet the Reich-Wing will call this picture a fake.  amb123   Oct-19-08 04:17 PM   #40 
  - Remember: Those WMD's weren't under Bush's desk.  WinkyDink   Oct-19-08 04:20 PM   #41 
  - Now that is a real American  galaxy21   Oct-19-08 04:23 PM   #42 
  - Sorrow and Pain.  Kajsa   Oct-19-08 05:08 PM   #44 
  - Thanks for posting  proud patriot   Oct-19-08 05:10 PM   #45 
  - ok, I'm cryin' - nt  crankychatter   Oct-19-08 05:10 PM   #46 
  - *sniff*  krispos42   Oct-19-08 05:21 PM   #47 
  - 20 years young  Iwillnevergiveup   Oct-19-08 05:53 PM   #48 
  - oh sweet Jesus. I am in tears. there but the grace of God go I with  roguevalley   Oct-19-08 06:35 PM   #50 
     - Rips this ol' 60s HippieChick's heart right out. Just like 'Nam. For what? For what? God, help us.  1Hippiechick   Oct-19-08 07:31 PM   #58 
  - Bio on Cpl. Kareem Rashad Sultan Khan  RamboLiberal   Oct-19-08 06:46 PM   #51 
  - An All-American family indeed  Cali_Democrat   Oct-19-08 08:13 PM   #61 
  - Another senseless loss....  HannnaH   Oct-21-08 12:33 PM   #110 
  - Heartbreaking. Wow.  Shine   Oct-19-08 06:49 PM   #52 
  - K&R. Her face... sigh.  mb7588a   Oct-19-08 06:55 PM   #53 
  - K&R  invictus   Oct-19-08 06:55 PM   #54 
  - none of this had to be... B*sh needs to get his... please  npincus   Oct-19-08 06:56 PM   #55 
  - one more kick. in case someone missed this..  BrklynLiberal   Oct-19-08 07:26 PM   #57 
  - no words  NatBurner   Oct-19-08 07:39 PM   #59 
  - Unbelievably powerful photograph. It's got this old vet with tears  JimWis   Oct-19-08 07:45 PM   #60 
  - I was in tears as he was talking about it this morning.  Jennicut   Oct-19-08 08:15 PM   #62 
  - Salaam alaikum Kareem. (nt)  SunDrop23   Oct-19-08 08:54 PM   #64 
  - I have been saying for months that Obama is not a Muslim, but if he  MasonJar   Oct-19-08 08:55 PM   # 
  - McCain can only dream of being a tenth of the hero this brave young man was  FKA MNChimpH8R   Oct-19-08 08:55 PM   #65 
  - I can hear them now..."She's pimping out her son..."  SunDrop23   Oct-19-08 09:10 PM   #66 
  - wrenching  ailsagirl   Oct-19-08 09:28 PM   #67 
  - Ok, someone has to say it  MissDeeds   Oct-19-08 09:29 PM   #68 
  - And thank you for saying it  dflprincess   Oct-19-08 10:32 PM   #71 
  - I'm sure not forgetting it. For powell to use this soldier's name is infuriating.  Zhade   Oct-20-08 12:45 AM   #78 
  - No time for hate . . . . .  kmac3   Oct-20-08 05:09 PM   #101 
     - You are seriously mistaken  MissDeeds   Oct-20-08 08:45 PM   #109 
  - Thank you  gal   Oct-19-08 09:33 PM   #69 
  - Heart breaking.  CADEMOCRAT7   Oct-19-08 09:36 PM   #70 
  - very much apreciated. what a photo! and a message!  Bushies gotta go   Oct-19-08 10:35 PM   #72 
  - "Sometimes there's so much beauty in the world I feel like I can't take it..."  MagicKenny   Oct-19-08 11:16 PM   #73 
  - I'm in tears over this photo... may I ask a question please...  Azlady   Oct-20-08 12:10 AM   #75 
  - Here are Colin Powell's comments on this photo...  Cali_Democrat   Oct-20-08 12:38 AM   #76 
     - This text and the OP photo should be posted and emailed everywhere.  alphafemale   Oct-20-08 06:11 AM   #81 
     - Thank you so much for the text of Colin Powells comment ...  Azlady   Oct-20-08 08:28 AM   #87 
  - Is that the Muslim soldier powell helped put in his grave?  Zhade   Oct-20-08 12:43 AM   #77 
  - Will you please leave this fucking dead horse alone already?  Tarc   Oct-20-08 06:24 AM   #82 
  - Powell was not a dupee, he was one of the dupers.  notalemming   Oct-20-08 01:23 PM   #95 
     - I'm sorry you're so deluded, then  Tarc   Oct-20-08 04:07 PM   #97 
        - Well that's a hell of a lot better than crazier than a shithouse rat.  notalemming   Oct-20-08 04:37 PM   #100 
  - Just one of many.  spoony   Oct-20-08 04:29 PM   #99 
  - But, but I thought all Arabs are terrorists who want to destroy the U.S.  bulloney   Oct-20-08 05:11 AM   #80 
  - Damn. That just rips my heart out.  five_horizons   Oct-20-08 06:52 AM   #84 
  - A side benefit to Cheney and the Pentagon for their arranged blackout  higher class   Oct-20-08 08:10 AM   #85 
  - So very sad..............  Lastlaughin08   Oct-20-08 08:26 AM   #86 
  - K & R  catgirl   Oct-20-08 09:12 AM   #90 
  - I WAS SO DAMN GLAD POWELL SAID WHAT HE SAID.  Erin Elizabeth   Oct-20-08 09:22 AM   #91 
  - An interesting piece  BritishHuman   Oct-20-08 12:39 PM   #94 
     - OMG that is a fantastic idea! Posting that as an OP:  Erin Elizabeth   Oct-20-08 08:41 PM   #108 
  - Damn. What a God-awful piece of business.  DinahMoeHum   Oct-20-08 09:27 AM   #92 
  - My heart is breaking  Mad_Dem_X   Oct-20-08 10:29 AM   #93 
  - Thank you for posting this picture  yellowdogdemocrat2   Oct-20-08 05:11 PM   #102 
  - this is powerful  newyorklenny   Oct-20-08 05:20 PM   #103 
  - While listening to this song today  elizfeelinggreat   Oct-20-08 06:13 PM   #105 
  - Beautiful. nt  thecatburgler   Oct-20-08 08:24 PM   #107 
  - Photograph  ternahan   Oct-21-08 02:48 PM   #111 

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