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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 04:01 PM
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  -What does it mean to "pull a John Kerry"? ProSense  Oct-13-08 11:41 PM   #0 
  - I am sick of the Kerry bashing. He is an honorable man and a true hero.  Tatiana   Oct-13-08 11:44 PM   #1 
  - He folded the day after the election, while the votes were still being counted!  RC   Oct-14-08 12:07 AM   #9 
  - I voted for the John Kerry of Winter Soldier, the Iran Contra & BCCCI investigations--but that John  yurbud   Oct-14-08 12:14 AM   #14 
  - McAuliffe and Carville made sure he'd have no legal evidence to make a case in court.  blm   Oct-14-08 10:15 AM   #46 
     - Two Clinton loyals who didn't give a damn about helping Kerry win. n/t  wisteria   Oct-14-08 10:54 PM   #118 
  - When he conceded, I felt like I had been punched in the stomach.  tblue   Oct-14-08 12:56 AM   #31 
  - Kerry's was the SECOND slowest concession  karynnj   Oct-14-08 09:48 AM   #42 
  - He said he would not concede before every last vote was counted.  tblue   Oct-14-08 01:47 PM   #67 
     - No he didn't - he always said that he would work to have the votes count  karynnj   Oct-14-08 02:59 PM   #78 
  - McAuliffe's DNC made SURE there would be no evidence for Kerry to make a court case, as he  blm   Oct-14-08 10:13 AM   #45 
  - I never did like Terry McA. Man, I'm glad he's gone.  tblue   Oct-14-08 01:46 PM   #66 
     - Me too! n/t  wisteria   Oct-14-08 10:55 PM   #119 
  - He conceded because he lost the election.  beachmom   Oct-14-08 02:09 PM   #68 
  - Thank you. It's not Kerry's fault that he had no Dems standing with him  politicasista   Oct-14-08 02:32 PM   #75 
  - Voter suppression was just one of several manners in which the election was stolen from Kerry.  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:04 PM   #120 
  - I felt like that too. I don't care if others conceded even faster.  Overseas   Oct-14-08 02:23 PM   #73 
  - There was actually far more known in 2000  karynnj   Oct-14-08 03:25 PM   #79 
  - Yeah, and I felt like a truck had smashed me against a wall, but I  wisteria   Oct-14-08 10:53 PM   #117 
     - I don't blame Kerry for conceding when he did...  YvonneCa   Oct-14-08 11:06 PM   #121 
  - SECOND SLOWEST concession in history. And drafted the Iraq exit plan. And STILL uncovered more  blm   Oct-14-08 10:28 AM   #52 
  - Yes... it was so disappointing!  crossroads   Oct-14-08 02:14 PM   #71 
     - I worked my a** off and donated money. I also felt awful for some time after the election.  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:12 PM   #124 
  - Agreed.  The Backlash Cometh   Oct-14-08 07:59 AM   #39 
  - To seduce an older, silver-haired fox of a man?  Kristi1696   Oct-13-08 11:45 PM   #2 
  - I like the way you think!  ahem   Oct-14-08 01:34 AM   #33 
  - There you go bringing Wes Clark into it.  Larry in KC   Oct-14-08 10:17 AM   #47 
  - I agree. Kerry's been a stellar friend and mentor, with not a trace of ego or jealousy.  ClarkUSA   Oct-13-08 11:45 PM   #3 
  - He's a true public servant,  ginnyinWI   Oct-14-08 12:12 AM   #13 
  - It's not envy.  snake in the grass   Oct-14-08 12:21 AM   #20 
  - Kerry WAS FIGHTING - where was his BACKUP from the bigname Dems? Busy supporting Bush  blm   Oct-14-08 11:50 AM   #60 
  - Because there was NO case to be made  karynnj   Oct-14-08 03:53 PM   #80 
  - I don't think it is envy  Mabus   Oct-14-08 11:03 AM   #55 
  - You're right. Senator Kerry has really shown a lot of grace and honor  tblue   Oct-14-08 12:57 AM   #32 
  - I agree and it is great that THK has been a good friend to Michelle Obama  karynnj   Oct-14-08 04:45 PM   #86 
  - What does this thread mean?  Merlot   Oct-14-08 12:01 AM   #4 
  - It means exactly what it says  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:04 AM   #7 
  - Kerry's a good guy, but he did run a laughably weak campaign.  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 12:02 AM   #5 
  - I love these discussions  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:09 AM   #11 
  - I don't think he "lost" either n/t  politicasista   Oct-14-08 02:34 PM   #76 
  - No he didn't. Kerry won. RNC stole it for Bush and DNC let them do it when they allowed too many  blm   Oct-14-08 10:18 AM   #48 
  - I know he won, but he still allowed the consultants to talk him into running a weak, stupid campaign  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 11:33 AM   #58 
     - Baloney - he WON the way he ran - and HE challenged Bush to DEBATE their services  blm   Oct-14-08 11:43 AM   #59 
        - **crickets**  politicasista   Oct-14-08 02:56 PM   #77 
           - That's an opinion smackdown. It's a matter of opinion  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 05:08 PM   #88 
              - Yes, people will agree and disagree  politicasista   Oct-14-08 05:31 PM   #89 
              - How do you objectively quantify the appropriate level of attacks for a campaign?  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:09 PM   #100 
                 - No, attacking is the surrogates job  politicasista   Oct-14-08 06:17 PM   #104 
                    - They dropped the ball too, but isn't the main strategy and tone set by the candidate?  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:22 PM   #105 
                       - So Kerry/Feingold means nothing? n/t  politicasista   Oct-14-08 06:27 PM   #107 
              - Well, thankfully MY OPINION is based in reality and FACTS and others are slaves to corpmedia spin  blm   Oct-14-08 05:45 PM   #91 
              - Yeah, I'm such a slave to the corporate media because I disagree with how he ran the campaign.  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:01 PM   #96 
                 - Well, you believed he never challenged Bush on their service - yet he DID in a very major way....  blm   Oct-14-08 06:04 PM   #99 
                    - But he didn't stick with it and do it forcefully enough.  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:11 PM   #102 
                       - The left MEDIA, left blogs, and other Dem LAWMAKERS wouldn't back him up. You wanted Kerry to act  blm   Oct-14-08 06:24 PM   #106 
              - Yeah, nothing is going to change the mind of someone who claims  ProSense   Oct-14-08 05:49 PM   #92 
                 - Yes. People should pull all nighters, eat bad food, campaign sick,  politicasista   Oct-14-08 05:53 PM   #94 
                 - Nixon won in '72. Did he run the better campaign?  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:02 PM   #97 
                    - "The best man doesn't always win. "  ProSense   Oct-14-08 06:11 PM   #101 
                       - Kerry won the election, but not by an unstealable margin.  ryanmuegge   Oct-14-08 06:15 PM   #103 
                          - You don't understand election fraud - it's done by PERCENTAGE of the vote.  blm   Oct-14-08 06:29 PM   #108 
                          - There is no  ProSense   Oct-14-08 06:35 PM   #109 
  - That is just not true. He came oh so close to unseating a war time encumbent president.  beachmom   Oct-14-08 02:10 PM   #69 
  - Nonsense. Kerry can so close to over taking a war time president.  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:17 PM   #125 
  - Wimp out big time  pocoloco   Oct-14-08 12:03 AM   #6 
  - What campaign did you follow?  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:18 PM   #126 
  - He is a great Senator, but his campaign's behavior in light of irregularities in Ohio  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:05 AM   #8 
  - Um  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:07 AM   #10 
  - I do not and will not answer to your rabid-response linkys  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:10 AM   #12 
     - Florida 2004:  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:14 AM   #15 
     - The Kerry legal team didn't tepidly support the 1% recount?  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:17 AM   #17 
     - You don't know what you're talking about. Spin is not fact. n/t  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:19 AM   #18 
        - Spin?  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:20 AM   #19 
           - That funny, huh?  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:21 AM   #21 
              - Yeah. It is funny. I joined DU because of the frauds in Ohio and Florida  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:23 AM   #22 
                 - Nonsense?  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:26 AM   #23 
                    - Where were the public Kerry/Edwards statements regarding the honor of the recount?  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:30 AM   #24 
                       - "Where was the fire?" What?  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:35 AM   #26 
                          - Kerry conceded when there were 100K+ HAVA-enabled "provisional" ballots  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:38 AM   #27 
                             - You're just going to keep going around in circles.  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:43 AM   #28 
                             - Please stop posting the same NONSENSE link. Kerry conceded.  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 12:50 AM   #30 
                                - Kerry won  ProSense   Oct-14-08 07:28 AM   #35 
                                - They were counted - and that is why the number he was behind decreased  karynnj   Oct-14-08 04:38 PM   #84 
                                - He did concede too early  mvd   Oct-14-08 06:54 PM   #113 
                                - Between the voting machine that started counting backwards in Galena, OH  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 08:43 PM   #116 
                                - This thread is like flypaper  prodn2000   Oct-14-08 08:34 PM   #115 
                             - and 130,000 behind....Gore conceded on election night when he believed he was 50,000 behind  blm   Oct-14-08 10:25 AM   #50 
                             - He was about 120,000 votes behind Bush at that time  karynnj   Oct-14-08 04:37 PM   #83 
     - well thats one thing i agree with ya on  iamthebandfanman   Oct-14-08 12:33 AM   #25 
     - The reason that the Kerry team was not enthusiastic about the recount  karynnj   Oct-14-08 04:28 PM   #82 
  - You mean DNC's refusal to secure the election process, letting RNC control it at every level  blm   Oct-14-08 10:20 AM   #49 
  - John Kerry brought me back to the Democratic Party  LooseWilly   Oct-14-08 12:16 AM   #16 
  - people shouldn't demean Kerry. He's a great guy and a huge supporter of Obama  TheDonkey   Oct-14-08 12:44 AM   #29 
  - Pulling a Kerry is losing narrowly in a cycle we figured to lose narrowly  Awsi Dooger   Oct-14-08 02:51 AM   #34 
  - Kerry did better than many Dem's thought he would. That is why many  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:25 PM   #127 
  - Thank you ProSense.  MPK   Oct-14-08 07:48 AM   #36 
  - K & R.  bunkerbuster1   Oct-14-08 07:49 AM   #37 
  - Saving a buddy while risking mortal danger to oneself?  rosesaylavee   Oct-14-08 07:57 AM   #38 
  - Kerry won the election in 04 by a comfortable margin,  Stevepol   Oct-14-08 08:06 AM   #40 
  - Very reasonable post. You must be able to see the colors and greys of reality,  glitch   Oct-14-08 10:10 AM   #44 
  - Kerry is truly an amazing man.  Sick_of_Rethuggery   Oct-14-08 08:12 AM   #41 
  - Here's some video  politicasista   Oct-14-08 04:01 PM   #81 
  - I agree  mbergen   Oct-14-08 09:57 AM   #43 
  - I am sick of it too..  stillcool47   Oct-14-08 10:28 AM   #51 
  - These people SHOULD be demanding their STATE PARTIES spend 4 yrs to secure the election process.  blm   Oct-14-08 06:57 PM   #114 
  - I believe the term comes from 2004 when he walked instead of balked over Ohio.  progressivebydesign   Oct-14-08 10:31 AM   #53 
  - Again,  ProSense   Oct-14-08 11:01 AM   #54 
  - I agree. I think Kerry thought that through  rucky   Oct-14-08 11:10 AM   #57 
  - Thanks to MISDIRECTION you blamed the wrong target - the DNC needs to spend 4YEARS securing process  blm   Oct-14-08 11:55 AM   #61 
  - ..and I get to see him in an hour!  Viking12   Oct-14-08 11:09 AM   #56 
  - How lucky you are  fedupinBushcountry   Oct-14-08 01:09 PM   #64 
     - You can't imagine how lucky...  Viking12   Oct-14-08 06:49 PM   #111 
  - How long are you going to keep picking this fight?  sampsonblk   Oct-14-08 12:09 PM   #62 
  - What fight?  ProSense   Oct-14-08 12:23 PM   #63 
     - Yep. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the good here n/t  politicasista   Oct-14-08 04:44 PM   #85 
  - I am a proud  fedupinBushcountry   Oct-14-08 01:11 PM   #65 
  - Me too  karynnj   Oct-14-08 05:01 PM   #87 
  - I'm going to see him in about an hour...  zulchzulu   Oct-14-08 02:11 PM   #70 
  - Here's my report from today's event...  zulchzulu   Oct-14-08 11:12 PM   #123 
  - Excellent post!  politicasista   Oct-14-08 02:23 PM   #72 
  - McCain's campaign is a perfect example.  lojasmo   Oct-14-08 02:25 PM   #74 
  - You're comparing Kerry's campaign to McCain's?  ProSense   Oct-14-08 05:36 PM   #90 
  - McCain has the last Dem president supporting him on TV the way Bush had Clinton not only supporting  blm   Oct-14-08 05:50 PM   #93 
     - I think you are right  karynnj   Oct-14-08 06:02 PM   #98 
  - I feel sorry for people who can't appreciate Kerry.  BlueIris   Oct-14-08 05:54 PM   #95 
  - Kerry's a great Dem and could also have been a great President  mvd   Oct-14-08 06:40 PM   #110 
  - John Kerry has been Obama's top surrogate, and would have been a terrific President.  Kerry2008   Oct-14-08 06:52 PM   #112 
  - Kerry's campaign was awful.  Feron   Oct-14-08 11:10 PM   #122 
  - Obama has benefited from Kerry's help and guidance in this campaign.  wisteria   Oct-14-08 11:36 PM   #128 
     - Thankfully, Obama shows more respect for Kerry than some do  politicasista   Oct-14-08 11:38 PM   #129 
  - Kerry is a great, great man.  mzmolly   Oct-14-08 11:39 PM   #130 

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