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Tue Sep-30-08 09:35 PM
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| 14. They may attack it on grounds having little to do with privacy. |
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One premise for Roe is that the fetus is entitled to more protection as it becomes more viable independent from the mother, hence the increasing prohibitions from trimester to trimester.
They may take an ironic page from Brown and assert that increasing scientific knowledge has made the fetus viable much earlier in gestation and that viability conyeys rights on the fetus entitling it to protection much much earlier in the pregnancy. They could argue that life trumps privacy at that stage, leaving untouched the right to privacy itself.
Don't forget, Plessy was ultimately overturned because the court held that separate but equal was impossible, not wrong, and Scott v Sanford was never overturned but instead was replaced with a Constitutional Amendment after a civil war.
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| -ATTN Lawyers or Legal Minds: Question about Roe v Wade and Griswold in light of Palin |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 08:48 PM |
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The response would be short and to the point: |
ocelot |
Sep-30-08 08:49 PM |
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So she would say, I think its wrong because a baby is in the stomach right after sex |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 08:52 PM |
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Read the dissenting opinions in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 US 833 |
Alhena |
Sep-30-08 08:55 PM |
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Thank you very much. |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 08:57 PM |
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Thank you for pointing me to that case. Very enlightening. |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:24 PM |
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One thing that was pointed out |
SheilaT |
Sep-30-08 09:00 PM |
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Big Question, Brief Answer |
rwenos |
Sep-30-08 09:13 PM |
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Thank you so much! You made this very clear for me. |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:30 PM |
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I think they can go another way besides the Casey dissent. |
abumbyanyothername |
Sep-30-08 09:14 PM |
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And then how would they be able to conclusively say that life begins at conception? |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:28 PM |
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Interpreting what "life" means in the due process clause |
abumbyanyothername |
Sep-30-08 11:16 PM |
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Grsiwold is the basis for Roe |
IWantAnyDem |
Sep-30-08 09:17 PM |
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Ok, that makes sense. So, they could probably overturn both in the same case, right? |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:32 PM |
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I've never understood why a woman's right to her body isn't covered by the 9th amendment |
davepc |
Sep-30-08 09:31 PM |
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Whoa, that's a good point. |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:35 PM |
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Because the 10th Amendment gave that right to the states. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 09:39 PM |
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They may attack it on grounds having little to do with privacy. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 09:35 PM |
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Eisenstadt vs Baird-don't forget |
KakistocracyHater |
Sep-30-08 09:40 PM |
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Right, but the state law was not struck down on privacy grounds but on equal protection grounds. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 09:50 PM |
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Okay this is very interesting. |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:41 PM |
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Yes, that would be the outcome. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 09:43 PM |
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Alaska could theoretically create a law which says |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:51 PM |
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NARAL has been very vigilant in scrutinizing criminal laws that make causing the death of a fetus |
rug |
Sep-30-08 10:00 PM |
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There is no "real" Constitutional right to privacy. The word isn't anywhere in the document. |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 09:44 PM |
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Plessey had 58 years of precedence before it was reversed. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 09:52 PM |
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You make a good point, but... |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 10:01 PM |
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They will leap at the chance, saliva oozing from their maws. |
rug |
Sep-30-08 10:02 PM |
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I think it will depend on where the culture is in this country... |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 10:19 PM |
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I believe in a living Constitution. Even though privacy isn't explicit in the Constitution |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 09:58 PM |
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Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly. |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 10:10 PM |
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Yes, I understand what you're saying as far as having loose interpretation work against |
redstate_democrat |
Sep-30-08 10:21 PM |
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Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly. |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 10:10 PM |
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Privacy from a "Penumbra of Rights" |
rwenos |
Sep-30-08 10:11 PM |
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Oh I agree completely. lol |
msallied |
Sep-30-08 10:20 PM |
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