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abumbyanyothername Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-30-08 09:14 PM
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7. I think they can go another way besides the Casey dissent.
Life begins at conception. (Their argument, not mine.)

This would be much more radical and would create a 14th/5th Amendment prohibition on abortion ("deprived of life . . . without due process of law").

The problem is that this would create horrible problems in the law of inheritance, Social Security benefits, etc.
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  -ATTN Lawyers or Legal Minds: Question about Roe v Wade and Griswold in light of Palin redstate_democrat  Sep-30-08 08:48 PM   #0 
  - The response would be short and to the point:  ocelot   Sep-30-08 08:49 PM   #1 
  - So she would say, I think its wrong because a baby is in the stomach right after sex  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 08:52 PM   #2 
  - Read the dissenting opinions in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, 505 US 833  Alhena   Sep-30-08 08:55 PM   #3 
  - Thank you very much.  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 08:57 PM   #4 
  - Thank you for pointing me to that case. Very enlightening.  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:24 PM   #9 
  - One thing that was pointed out  SheilaT   Sep-30-08 09:00 PM   #5 
  - Big Question, Brief Answer  rwenos   Sep-30-08 09:13 PM   #6 
  - Thank you so much! You made this very clear for me.  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:30 PM   #11 
  - I think they can go another way besides the Casey dissent.  abumbyanyothername   Sep-30-08 09:14 PM   #7 
  - And then how would they be able to conclusively say that life begins at conception?  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:28 PM   #10 
     - Interpreting what "life" means in the due process clause  abumbyanyothername   Sep-30-08 11:16 PM   #34 
  - Grsiwold is the basis for Roe  IWantAnyDem   Sep-30-08 09:17 PM   #8 
  - Ok, that makes sense. So, they could probably overturn both in the same case, right?  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:32 PM   #13 
  - I've never understood why a woman's right to her body isn't covered by the 9th amendment  davepc   Sep-30-08 09:31 PM   #12 
  - Whoa, that's a good point.  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:35 PM   #15 
  - Because the 10th Amendment gave that right to the states.  rug   Sep-30-08 09:39 PM   #16 
  - They may attack it on grounds having little to do with privacy.  rug   Sep-30-08 09:35 PM   #14 
  - Eisenstadt vs Baird-don't forget  KakistocracyHater   Sep-30-08 09:40 PM   #17 
  - Right, but the state law was not struck down on privacy grounds but on equal protection grounds.  rug   Sep-30-08 09:50 PM   #21 
  - Okay this is very interesting.  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:41 PM   #18 
     - Yes, that would be the outcome.  rug   Sep-30-08 09:43 PM   #19 
        - Alaska could theoretically create a law which says  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:51 PM   #22 
           - NARAL has been very vigilant in scrutinizing criminal laws that make causing the death of a fetus  rug   Sep-30-08 10:00 PM   #25 
  - There is no "real" Constitutional right to privacy. The word isn't anywhere in the document.  msallied   Sep-30-08 09:44 PM   #20 
     - Plessey had 58 years of precedence before it was reversed.  rug   Sep-30-08 09:52 PM   #23 
     - You make a good point, but...  msallied   Sep-30-08 10:01 PM   #26 
        - They will leap at the chance, saliva oozing from their maws.  rug   Sep-30-08 10:02 PM   #27 
           - I think it will depend on where the culture is in this country...  msallied   Sep-30-08 10:19 PM   #31 
     - I believe in a living Constitution. Even though privacy isn't explicit in the Constitution  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 09:58 PM   #24 
        - Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly.  msallied   Sep-30-08 10:10 PM   #28 
        - Yes, I understand what you're saying as far as having loose interpretation work against  redstate_democrat   Sep-30-08 10:21 PM   #33 
        - Well you pretty much described the divide perfectly.  msallied   Sep-30-08 10:10 PM   #29 
        - Privacy from a "Penumbra of Rights"  rwenos   Sep-30-08 10:11 PM   #30 
           - Oh I agree completely. lol  msallied   Sep-30-08 10:20 PM   #32 
 

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