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54. The Liars
Carl Sandburg (1878–1967). Smoke and Steel. 1922.

A LIAR goes in fine clothes.
A liar goes in rags.
A liar is a liar, clothes or no clothes.
A liar is a liar and lives on the lies he tells and dies in a life of lies.
And the stonecutters earn a living—with lies—on the tombs of liars.

Aliar looks ’em in the eye
And lies to a woman,
Lies to a man, a pal, a child, a fool.
And he is an old liar; we know him many years back.

A liar lies to nations.
A liar lies to the people.
A liar takes the blood of the people
And drinks this blood with a laugh and a lie,
A laugh in his neck,
A lie in his mouth.
And this liar is an old one; we know him many years.
He is straight as a dog’s hind leg.
He is straight as a corkscrew.
He is white as a black cat’s foot at midnight.

The tongue of a man is tied on this,
On the liar who lies to nations,
The liar who lies to the people.
The tongue of a man is tied on this
And ends: To hell with ’em all.
To hell with ’em all.

It’s a song hard as a riveter’s hammer,
Hard as the sleep of a crummy hobo,
Hard as the sleep of a lousy doughboy,
Twisted as a shell-shock idiot’s gibber.

The liars met where the doors were locked.
They said to each other: Now for war.
The liars fixed it and told ’em: Go.

Across their tables they fixed it up,
Behind their doors away from the mob.
And the guns did a job that nicked off millions.
The guns blew seven million off the map,
The guns sent seven million west.
Seven million shoving up the daisies.
Across their tables they fixed it up,
The liars who lie to nations.

And now
Out of the butcher’s job
And the boneyard junk the maggots have cleaned,
Where the jaws of skulls tell the jokes of war ghosts,
Out of this they are calling now: Let’s go back where we were.
Let us run the world again, us, us.

Where the doors are locked the liars say: Wait and we’ll cash in again.

So I hear The People talk.
I hear them tell each other:
Let the strong men be ready.
Let the strong men watch.
Let your wrists be cool and your head clear.
Let the liars get their finish,
The liars and their waiting game, waiting a day again
To open the doors and tell us: War! get out to your war again.

So I hear The People tell each other:
Look at to-day and to-morrow.
Fix this clock that nicks off millions
When The Liars say it’s time.
Take things in your own hands.
To hell with ’em all,
The liars who lie to nations,
The liars who lie to The People.
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  -What proof do we have that the lies they are telling won't work? MikeG  Sep-02-04 12:42 PM   #0 
  - If the recent past is any indication,  BlueEyedSon   Sep-02-04 12:43 PM   #1 
  - bush is tanking in the polls  renotyme   Sep-02-04 12:43 PM   #2 
  - Yeah. 3% drop in Rasmussen daily tracking polls shows people don't like  AP   Sep-02-04 01:22 PM   #22 
     - Bush is up by 4% now, your data is pre-convention  Democat   Sep-02-04 02:12 PM   #44 
  - what proof do we have  sniffa   Sep-02-04 12:44 PM   #3 
  - Don't put that past them.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 12:46 PM   #5 
  - There's always a line -  sparosnare   Sep-02-04 12:45 PM   #4 
  - Their lies will work unless we hit back very hard in ads, now!  David Dunham   Sep-02-04 12:47 PM   #6 
  - If you don't have faith in your fellow citizens  MrBenchley   Sep-02-04 12:47 PM   #7 
  - Why do you need proof?  pmbryant   Sep-02-04 12:47 PM   #8 
  - Because previous lies have already been debunked  eleny   Sep-02-04 12:48 PM   #9 
  - My, You're Posting All KINDS Of Helpful Thoughts Today  cryingshame   Sep-02-04 12:48 PM   #10 
  - You're right. *drinks koolaid*. Kerry will kick ass.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 12:54 PM   #13 
     - You didn't answer the question.  LoZoccolo   Sep-02-04 01:08 PM   #14 
        - Kerry will kick ass. Kerry will kick ass.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 01:28 PM   #24 
           - OK Mike, we get the sarcasm.  demwing2   Sep-02-04 01:58 PM   #40 
           - Yeah that's just the fuck what I thought.  LoZoccolo   Sep-02-04 02:07 PM   #43 
  - Not everything in life is solid  marlakay   Sep-02-04 12:51 PM   #11 
  - I too worry  mmonk   Sep-02-04 12:53 PM   #12 
  - My concern is not with whether the lies will work or not but ...  mazzarro   Sep-02-04 01:16 PM   #15 
  - The sky is falling!!!  sangh0   Sep-02-04 01:17 PM   #16 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-02-04 01:21 PM   #19 
     - LOL!!  sangh0   Sep-02-04 01:22 PM   #21 
     - That does it *putting on ignore* Bye now.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 01:23 PM   #23 
        - Woe is me!!!  sangh0   Sep-02-04 01:32 PM   #26 
     - Why don't you just put everyone on ignore?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 01:34 PM   #29 
        - Its not the first time with him. He can be rude.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 01:35 PM   #30 
           - What is the purpose of this thread?  sangh0   Sep-02-04 03:50 PM   #48 
  - It is working  info being   Sep-02-04 01:18 PM   #17 
  - But McCain's speech was the antithesis of Zell's  lancdem   Sep-02-04 01:50 PM   #38 
  - We have proof they did work . Soon we will have proof that fighting back  John_H   Sep-02-04 01:21 PM   #18 
  - So, when do they start?  unfrigginreal   Sep-02-04 01:41 PM   #35 
     - they cranked it up this week. Any response today would be lost  John_H   Sep-02-04 01:53 PM   #39 
        - I was just about  RoyalWickedness   Sep-02-04 03:57 PM   #52 
  - Another downer thread  quinnox   Sep-02-04 01:21 PM   #20 
  - Remain calm.  deutsey   Sep-02-04 01:30 PM   #25 
  - One of the all time dumbest posts ever on DU.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 01:33 PM   #27 
  - Thank you for that. That should get it locked. Good work.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 01:34 PM   #28 
  - WTF? Does your post mean something? What?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 01:35 PM   #31 
     - Give it a rest. Take a deep breath. Get some fresh air.  MikeG   Sep-02-04 01:36 PM   #32 
        - Do your comments mean anything? Could you please explain them?  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 01:38 PM   #33 
  - My gosh, a literalist!  amBushed   Sep-02-04 01:40 PM   #34 
     - In fact the original post question is meaningless.  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 01:44 PM   #36 
     - Nice attempted dodge.  amBushed   Sep-02-04 01:59 PM   #42 
        - Bush the Elder's negative campaign against Clinton in 92 didn't work  Feanorcurufinwe   Sep-02-04 03:25 PM   #46 
           - Bush the Younger's attacks on Ann Richards did work. Clayton  TheRovingGourmet   Sep-02-04 03:47 PM   #47 
           - Presidential elections please!  amBushed   Sep-02-04 04:17 PM   #53 
     - Thanks for the clarification  deutsey   Sep-02-04 01:46 PM   #37 
     - Negative attacks work really well if properly constructed. I try  TheRovingGourmet   Sep-02-04 03:53 PM   #50 
  - Whenever I start getting too worried I daydream about Duce  ArkDem   Sep-02-04 01:58 PM   #41 
  - Lies work great!!!  Jacobin   Sep-02-04 02:21 PM   #45 
  - Well, I've got some proof....  MrBenchley   Sep-02-04 03:51 PM   #49 
  - You can have "proof" for a contingent future?  markses   Sep-02-04 03:56 PM   #51 
  - The Liars  bigtree   Sep-02-04 04:24 PM   #54 
     - Great poem...thanks!!  MrBenchley   Sep-02-04 04:28 PM   #55 
 

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