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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 07:58 PM
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55. That's your opinion. Mine is that a campaign by, of and for the people
should actually attempt to reach people in more than a handful of states. A foolish waste of money? I'll bet the Dems in Indiana and Colorado and Virginia (and others) would disagree with you and your cynical predictions of the outcome thereof.

But you go right ahead and wring your hands over a handful of repuke operative poseurs. They, and you, have become all too transparent.

Just stay out of the way. The rest of us have work to do.
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  -CQ Politics...Some Clinton supporters plan to get rid of Reid, Dean...and mad at Pelosi. madfloridian  Sep-14-08 06:33 PM   #0 
  - Great... we have our own Rovian asscarrots...  Cooley Hurd   Sep-14-08 06:34 PM   #1 
  - In Massachusetts, they're working WITH crossover voting GOPs to try and take out Kerry this Tuesday  blm   Sep-14-08 06:42 PM   #2 
  - Republican shills  Abugface   Sep-14-08 06:45 PM   #3 
  - That is just horrible, blm. I am so sorry about that.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 06:46 PM   #4 
  - Well, mf, when we both predicted this back in 2005 I wish we were proved wrong. Unfortunately,  blm   Sep-14-08 06:50 PM   #6 
     - Yep  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 08:09 PM   #62 
  - We need to send Kerry $$$ for GOTV and right away.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 06:51 PM   #7 
  - Actually, O'Reilly has very little money  karynnj   Sep-14-08 10:33 PM   #126 
  - I'm gonna go out on a limb here. If the Boston Herald has figured  Tutonic   Sep-14-08 08:45 PM   #72 
  - The polls have showed that O'reilly has little support  karynnj   Sep-14-08 09:43 PM   #104 
  - Great points  karynnj   Sep-14-08 10:39 PM   #129 
  - Tha's awful. I didn't know ...  YvonneCa   Sep-15-08 12:11 PM   #139 
     - I have no doubt Kerry will prevail, but, it's the attempt to take him down that is disgusting and  blm   Sep-15-08 12:21 PM   #140 
        - I think most people see the Democrats as monolithic...  YvonneCa   Sep-15-08 01:09 PM   #146 
  - Madflo, face it, some people don't like Howard Dean  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 06:48 PM   #5 
  - Face it - the fascist supporting wing of the Democratic party wants ALOT of our best Dem lawmakers  blm   Sep-14-08 06:53 PM   #8 
  - A non-sequitur is better than no sequitur at all, eh blm?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 06:55 PM   #9 
     - I know EXACTLY what I'm saying. And more Dems are waking up. Deal with it.  blm   Sep-14-08 06:57 PM   #10 
     - And that is not a non-sequitur how?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 06:59 PM   #12 
        - If some people were bought for WHAT they know and sold for what they THINK they know  blm   Sep-14-08 07:24 PM   #26 
           - So you are suggesting we sell Howard Dean?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:26 PM   #28 
              - Closed government protecting Democrats who aren't smart enough to realize they work against  blm   Sep-14-08 07:30 PM   #33 
                 - Congratulations on your non sequiturs.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:38 PM   #36 
                    - non sequitors only to the deliberately obtuse. There are plenty of Dems here who understand  blm   Sep-14-08 07:44 PM   #41 
                       - If you don't the courage to fight directly, then go back to watching CSPAN.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:48 PM   #45 
                          - This is direct - direct to you and the rest of the closed government apologists...  blm   Sep-14-08 07:54 PM   #51 
                             - I don't know what a closed government apologist is, so how about you enlighten me.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:16 PM   #63 
     - I looked it up, it states it means a Non Follower, how is that helpful?  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 07:08 PM   #15 
     - Definition:  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:17 PM   #20 
        - I got mine from the enclyopedia.....again,  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 07:19 PM   #23 
           - Read the wiki definition. It'll clear it up for you.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:24 PM   #27 
              - Isn't it true that wiki is not always accurate enough to use when something  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 07:40 PM   #37 
                 - I picked the easiest site for you, and you still can't go read it?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:44 PM   #40 
                    - I find the encyclopedia to be pretty accurate when looking for definations...sorry just not a wiki  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 07:48 PM   #44 
                       - I have been an English teacher for 14 years. I'll vouch for the Wiki definition.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:49 PM   #47 
                          - Okay, so according to wiki, what your saying is that there are some that are not following  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 07:55 PM   #52 
                          - She's saying my post wasn't a proper reply to hers. It was. Only someone in denial or deliberately  blm   Sep-14-08 07:58 PM   #54 
                          - Aunt Patsy, a non sequitur is an argument or remark which does not logically follow what preceded it  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:33 PM   #69 
                             - Well thank you, honestly, I was not trying to be obtuse you know...but why don't you like Dean?  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 08:39 PM   #70 
                             - I think he wasted a lot of time and money this year.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:51 PM   #74 
                                - Dean far outraised McAuliffe  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:01 PM   #81 
                                - But we're down to the wire and Obama/Biden needs money.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:04 PM   #84 
                                   - Did you know the Clinton big donors threatened Dean? Got money back?  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:13 PM   #91 
                                   - Dean needed to handle this like the head of the DNC  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:28 PM   #99 
                                   - Your attitude is awful. I will say good by.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:49 PM   #107 
                                   - Your attitude is completely incomprehensible, so goodbye.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 10:22 PM   #125 
                                   - Bit of a nasty piece of work in this thread  sniffa   Sep-15-08 04:30 PM   #157 
                                   - I'm sorry but what you're suggesting would have been out of line  Raineyb   Sep-14-08 11:19 PM   #132 
                                   - Actually, no. Dean would have been in a position to broker a deal, especially  Nikki Stone1   Sep-15-08 04:26 PM   #155 
                                   - Clinton camp acts like a pack of EXTORTIONISTS holding their party loyalty for RANSOM.  blm   Sep-15-08 08:11 AM   #134 
                                   - Why do you claim that it didn't help?  dansolo   Sep-14-08 09:16 PM   #94 
                                   - Because down-ticket Democrats are having problems right now, which reminds me  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:29 PM   #100 
                                   - This, the day after the announcement of record donations.  Doremus   Sep-14-08 10:22 PM   #124 
                                - I thought that the Obama campaign was accepting public financing?  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 09:06 PM   #85 
                             - My post had appropriate logic to it and YOU are pretending it doesn't so YOU can ignore its content.  blm   Sep-15-08 12:07 PM   #138 
                                - Your post was a non sequitur to a comment that wasn't even addressed to you.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-15-08 12:43 PM   #143 
                          - I've been an anti-corruption, open government Democrat for over 14yrs.  blm   Sep-14-08 07:56 PM   #53 
                             - I happen to love Dean and agree with everything he has done so far, what I was not understanding  AuntPatsy   Sep-14-08 08:02 PM   #58 
                             - If you are able to comprehend my question above, perhaps you will answer it.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:54 PM   #77 
     - blm knows what she's saying and I agree..  zidzi   Sep-14-08 07:47 PM   #43 
        - Nonsense.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:53 PM   #75 
           - Perhaps you did not see the fundraising for August. New records.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:10 PM   #89 
           - Madflo, perhaps you do not see that our ticket is stuggling when it shouldn't be  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:17 PM   #95 
              - Good by.... I despise what the Clintons did to this party.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:50 PM   #108 
              - All this because I don't like Howard Dean?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 10:21 PM   #122 
              - Where is the ticket struggling?  MPK   Sep-14-08 10:11 PM   #116 
           - You're long winded but nothing comes out except  zidzi   Sep-14-08 09:34 PM   #101 
              - firmg['sdp dfsapiugqvn 4[ ofi[f]d5655 klo'  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:45 PM   #105 
  - Those who don't want all states included have their own agenda.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:06 PM   #14 
  - Where have I defended anyone's lies?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:17 PM   #21 
     - What you did is really awful.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:28 PM   #30 
     - Apparently so awful you had to post it twice. Except there's nothing awful there.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:37 PM   #35 
        - Well, that's fine then. I feel much freer now to state how i feel  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 08:00 PM   #57 
           - Madflo, you clearly have taken this way beyond the original comment.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:23 PM   #66 
              - Well, then you don't see my point. Not liking someone is different than accusing them.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:04 PM   #83 
                 - Hello? Is this thing on?  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:08 PM   #87 
                    - Catharsis time is over. Stop stamping your feet and pouting.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:15 PM   #93 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-08 09:18 PM   #96 
                       - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Sep-14-08 09:21 PM   #97 
     - Dupe...deleted.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:28 PM   # 
  - Nikki, how do you feel about their going after Kerry?  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:10 PM   #17 
  - Post #7  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:18 PM   #22 
  - WASTED time with the 50-state strategy? I'm shaking my head here.  Doremus   Sep-14-08 07:41 PM   #38 
  - Look at where the battleground states are.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 07:46 PM   #42 
     - That's your opinion. Mine is that a campaign by, of and for the people  Doremus   Sep-14-08 07:58 PM   #55 
     - Virginia's not a waste--it's a state that's turning, especially Northern VA.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 08:24 PM   #67 
        - Virginia is in play because of the effort being invested there.  Doremus   Sep-14-08 09:07 PM   #86 
           - Virginia is in play because of population shifts  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:24 PM   #98 
     - Your Opinion Very short-Sighted.  justinaforjustice   Sep-14-08 08:19 PM   #64 
     - From what I have read, down ticket Democrats are having a hard time right now.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:03 PM   #82 
        - That is not true. The DCCC does down ticket race, not Dean. Stop the untruths.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:14 PM   #92 
        - What!?  Balderdash   Sep-14-08 09:38 PM   #102 
           - Thanks for pointing that out, Balderdash.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:39 PM   #103 
           - No...those two committees fund the candidates. House and Senate.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:56 PM   #111 
           - I'm not accusing.  Balderdash   Sep-14-08 10:14 PM   #117 
              - I have been accused 4 times in this thread of not telling the truth.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 10:21 PM   #123 
           - No...those two committees fund the candidates. House and Senate.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:56 PM   #112 
        - Links?  MPK   Sep-14-08 09:47 PM   #106 
     - Making inroads take time. We were never going to turn a majority of red states blue in four years.  wisteria   Sep-14-08 08:26 PM   #68 
     - I agree. But this was a crucial election.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-14-08 09:12 PM   #90 
        - "We needed to win this one."  MPK   Sep-14-08 10:08 PM   #115 
           - That's just worry talking.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-15-08 12:28 PM   #142 
     - Come on...  Chloroplast   Sep-14-08 10:17 PM   #119 
        - If the popular vote won elections then I would agree with you.  Nikki Stone1   Sep-15-08 04:23 PM   #154 
  - Without the 50 state strategy, we could not have capitalized  karynnj   Sep-14-08 10:20 PM   #121 
  - So winning back the House was a waste of time?  ieoeja   Sep-15-08 01:34 PM   #148 
  - In my experience, there are two kinds of people who don't like Howard Dean  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-15-08 04:14 PM   #151 
  - I actually hope Dean is out  dsc   Sep-14-08 06:59 PM   #11 
  - Can't please everybody, all of the time. Hillary obviously stired up bad vibes towards the end of  w4rma   Sep-14-08 07:04 PM   #13 
  - the way the race went did that all by itself.  dsc   Sep-14-08 07:10 PM   #16 
     - You are excusing them for blaming someone else for their failure.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:11 PM   #18 
        - No  dsc   Sep-14-08 07:28 PM   #31 
           - That is not true. The rules were done. It said lose ALL delegates.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:30 PM   #34 
              - sorry but you are dead wrong  dsc   Sep-14-08 07:43 PM   #39 
              - That is not true. I will be off for a while, but I have all the facts in my journal.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 08:03 PM   #59 
              - Hillary agreed to those rules until she started grasping at any straw that might help her win.  w4rma   Sep-14-08 08:04 PM   #60 
                 - that would include NV and SC  dsc   Sep-14-08 08:57 PM   #80 
                    - NV and SC were voted in to the pre-window...even Hillary agreed.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:58 PM   #114 
                       - regardless of who did or didn't agree  dsc   Sep-15-08 04:08 PM   #149 
              - I love how you're still obsessed with the whole delegate thing.  joshcryer   Sep-14-08 08:44 PM   #71 
                 - I apologize for discussing history  dsc   Sep-14-08 08:54 PM   #76 
                    - I am getting things together since you said I was lying. I found the  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:54 PM   #110 
                       - as usual you can't even report accurately on what is directly in front of you  dsc   Sep-15-08 04:10 PM   #150 
                          - That is a personal attack on me.  madfloridian   Sep-15-08 05:16 PM   #158 
  - Well, not necessarily...Obama could say "You're good where you are--stay there."  Alter Ego   Sep-15-08 08:19 AM   #135 
  - Well, the president usually get's to pick who is going to be the  WCGreen   Sep-14-08 07:12 PM   #19 
  - I think we have a winner here folks. n/t  Doremus   Sep-14-08 07:49 PM   #46 
  - Dean said that the DNC becomes a political arm of the party...  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 07:53 PM   #50 
  - Absolutely correct  MaineDem   Sep-15-08 09:11 AM   #137 
  - If PUMA people want motivation to vote for Obama, think about the incumbent President Palin our  Sam Ervin jret   Sep-14-08 07:21 PM   #24 
  - PUMAS can go kiss my white womanly ass, seriously  Jennicut   Sep-14-08 07:23 PM   #25 
  - Exactly how do people with no power "plan" to do this?  BlooInBloo   Sep-14-08 07:26 PM   #29 
  - You do realize that CQ, The Hill, and Politico are like college newspapers for the beltway  Hippo_Tron   Sep-14-08 07:29 PM   #32 
  - I don't agree. I think they are widely read and quoted.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 08:21 PM   #65 
  - It's an attempt to stir up right wing decisive BS. The very few "Hillary supporters" who act out...  joshcryer   Sep-14-08 08:47 PM   #73 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-14-08 09:51 PM   #109 
  - Reid and Pelosi definitely need to be replaced, but not because the sweatshop shoe gang says so  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-14-08 07:50 PM   #48 
  - I agree with you 100% here  Raineyb   Sep-15-08 09:06 AM   #136 
  - **browser hiccup**  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-14-08 07:50 PM   #49 
  - they've got a franchise but aren't cooperating with the home office  Lord Helmet   Sep-14-08 07:59 PM   #56 
  - "And it is supporting a number of Democratic women running for Congress"  adoraz   Sep-14-08 08:05 PM   #61 
  - I love Dean as a candidate. As chairman he has been horrible  mccain_pwned   Sep-14-08 08:57 PM   #78 
  - Links?  MPK   Sep-14-08 10:14 PM   #118 
  - What a great 34th post. You just f***ed everyone.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 10:18 PM   #120 
  - Fuck Florida.  Sebastian Doyle   Sep-15-08 04:19 PM   #153 
  - They can have Reid and Pelosi, but we're keeping Dean.  polichick   Sep-14-08 08:57 PM   #79 
  - I'd actually like to see Senator Clinton as the Senate Majority Leader.  FVZA_Colonel   Sep-14-08 09:09 PM   #88 
  - She will get whatever she wants.  madfloridian   Sep-14-08 09:57 PM   #113 
  - It's pretty funny that they believe they are in charge of the party.  AZBlue   Sep-14-08 10:34 PM   #127 
  - Anyone who votes for McCain/Palin is a righwing republican.  mmonk   Sep-14-08 10:38 PM   #128 
  - To the Greatest Page.  AtomicKitten   Sep-14-08 10:45 PM   #130 
  - Rove is laughing at all of you in this thread.  SIMPLYB1980   Sep-14-08 11:02 PM   #131 
  - Huh?  AmyCamus   Sep-15-08 06:49 AM   #133 
  - Pushover Pelosi should be replaced n/t  amborin   Sep-15-08 12:25 PM   #141 
  - I tend to agree.  timeoutofjoint   Sep-15-08 12:46 PM   #144 
  - I will oppose any attempt to remove Dean and withdraw my support. He has been great.  Overseas   Sep-15-08 12:51 PM   #145 
  - Delegates are ALWAYS pressured to support the nominee  democrattotheend   Sep-15-08 01:14 PM   #147 
  - Obama should just offer Hillary Sec of State, and as the head of the party, he calls the shots  SoCalDem   Sep-15-08 04:18 PM   #152 
  - Right, because politicians accrue such power by losing.  heraldsqure   Sep-15-08 04:28 PM   #156 
  - Bottom line  quaker bill   Sep-15-08 05:36 PM   #159 
 

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