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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-12-08 10:40 AM
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9. It's the GROUND GAME.
The "debate recap" will make the actual debate irrelevant.
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  -Do you agree that the only possible "game changers" are the debates? StrongBad  Sep-12-08 10:29 AM   #0 
  - No. I think if Obama/Biden get very aggressive...  terrya   Sep-12-08 10:30 AM   #1 
  - According to the NYT today, that's what they plan on doing.  StrongBad   Sep-12-08 10:32 AM   #2 
  - it should, which is precisely why McCain wanted the town hall format and why  yellowdogintexas   Sep-12-08 10:34 AM   #3 
  - This has been my thinking for a while.  Curtland1015   Sep-12-08 10:34 AM   #4 
  - I agree.....BUT  butlerd   Sep-12-08 10:42 AM   #10 
     - Let's be honest - BO and Biden have ALREADY lost ...  Cosmocat   Sep-12-08 01:50 PM   #40 
        - Well, I wouldn't say that I'm THAT pessimistic  butlerd   Sep-12-08 10:07 PM   #47 
        - Sadly I think you're right. :-(  Doremus   Sep-12-08 10:39 PM   #48 
  - The debates will be gamechangers. You think the audience watching the RNC and DNC conventions were  GarbagemanLB   Sep-12-08 10:35 AM   #5 
  - the debates changed zip in '04 even though Kerry won them  amborin   Sep-12-08 01:58 PM   #41 
     - Again...Obama is NOT Kerry, and this is NOT 2004.  bobbiejo   Sep-12-08 11:10 PM   #49 
  - Palin could answer another question!  L. Coyote   Sep-12-08 10:38 AM   #6 
  - No, but I will be called names for my suggestion  ps1074   Sep-12-08 10:39 AM   #7 
  - Will Obama praise McCain in the debates?  Democat   Sep-12-08 10:40 AM   #8 
  - we must stop fu--king praising McCain, call him the Liar and Con artist that he is  amborin   Sep-12-08 02:03 PM   #43 
  - It's the GROUND GAME.  rucky   Sep-12-08 10:40 AM   #9 
  - I'm skeptical about these "Obama has a phenomenol ground game" posts.  StrongBad   Sep-12-08 10:56 AM   #11 
     - It's the most effective way to control the message.  rucky   Sep-12-08 11:16 AM   #15 
  - I think it will be more a gradual fade of Palin-mania combined with McCain's age and lack  Alhena   Sep-12-08 10:57 AM   #12 
  - The debates are critical, but the ground game and day-to-day can have an effect.  TheZug   Sep-12-08 10:59 AM   #13 
  - IMO, I don't think there will be any debates by McCain without Palin. I feel they will  CK_John   Sep-12-08 11:04 AM   #14 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Sep-12-08 11:19 AM   #16 
  - Nope  grandpappy   Sep-12-08 11:25 AM   #17 
  - I agree with your analysis and am also concerned. n/t  OllieLotte   Sep-12-08 12:03 PM   #18 
  - No - the Palin effect will fade more and more as people are filled in on her idiocy.  polichick   Sep-12-08 12:04 PM   #19 
  - debates may NOT be game changers  amborin   Sep-12-08 12:05 PM   #20 
  - I agree with the OP  Bryan   Sep-12-08 12:17 PM   #21 
  - If we can find out what frequency McAin't's wire is on and get him reading from our script  AndyTiedye   Sep-12-08 12:50 PM   #22 
  - DEBATES WILL BE TOO LATE -- Most insiders I talk to see a 2 week window to turn things around  Sensitivity   Sep-12-08 12:52 PM   #23 
  - No--he needs to start producing ads using McCains own words against him.  DuaneBidoux   Sep-12-08 12:56 PM   #24 
  - Absolutely not. I'm expecting a "potatoe" moment from Palin any day now.  MathGuy   Sep-12-08 12:58 PM   #25 
  - I think they will be a significant help, but -  JimWis   Sep-12-08 01:07 PM   #26 
  - I think that McCain's gaffe last night could be a game changer  me b zola   Sep-12-08 01:10 PM   #27 
  - I would like to think the debates make a difference  abbiehoff   Sep-12-08 01:15 PM   #28 
  - No, the media is the game changer. If they do their job, we win convincingly.  Bigleaf   Sep-12-08 01:18 PM   #29 
  - The media totally controls everything. Whatever they say, most 'muricans will believe.  AlinPA   Sep-12-08 01:37 PM   #35 
  - No. We don't need a "game changer", the game is fine.  progressivebydesign   Sep-12-08 01:19 PM   #30 
  - No. game changers are coming in. 527's Bill Clinton, These will  Tutonic   Sep-12-08 01:24 PM   #31 
  - When is the 1st debate and who is moderating?  Roxy66   Sep-12-08 01:27 PM   #32 
  - It will be all flag pins and religion. "Debates" are a joke.nt  AlinPA   Sep-12-08 01:38 PM   #36 
     - agree: Kerry won them in '04 and they didn't count for diddly  amborin   Sep-12-08 02:05 PM   #44 
  - McCain won the Saddleback "meeting", so Obama needs to hit hard before the debates  icanthelpit   Sep-12-08 01:28 PM   #33 
  - No. "Debates" boil down to zingers and one-liner soundbites. McCain will be loaded  AlinPA   Sep-12-08 01:34 PM   #34 
  - Not if the MSM does its job  NYDem Observer   Sep-12-08 01:39 PM   #37 
  - I think he needs to be "beat up a little" before the debates.  lamp_shade   Sep-12-08 01:43 PM   #38 
  - Yes and I have confidence in Biden against Palin.  jesus_of_suburbia   Sep-12-08 01:46 PM   #39 
  - 11 million new registered Democratic voters  sudopod   Sep-12-08 02:00 PM   #42 
  - Holy Crap! Good point.  StrongBad   Sep-12-08 02:08 PM   #46 
  - For McCain, a BIG BLOTCH on his forehead. For Obama....  InNeedOfUserName   Sep-12-08 02:08 PM   #45 
  - The is no gamechanger. There is only turnout.  DefenseLawyer   Sep-12-08 11:15 PM   #50 
  - No. If the stress keeps up, McCain could have a temper meltdown.  WA98296   Sep-12-08 11:18 PM   #51 

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