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Mon Sep-08-08 01:00 AM
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| 38. Right. And I have work to do with my computer. Which is why I support outsourcing IT jobs |
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and greatly increasing H1B visas. Why is this so hard to understand? My one and only point is that I care about your job/retirement/healthcare/general well-being as much as you care about mine. I just get the feeling that you (as well as most Californians,) seem to believe that outsourcing is a one-way street. Absolutely not. Out of work auto-workers can't afford expensive Californian wages. "Maybe we can all realize that Nationalism doesn't mean anything anymore" Indeed. I remind myself of this when I support privatizing Social Security, vote against UHC, etc. As you rightly say, nationalism has no place in the modern world, so why should I pay for your retirement or health-care?  |
| -If the Democrats lose this election |
Echos Myron |
Sep-07-08 11:35 PM |
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We won't. But we do need to get more centrist Democrat because |
akangel2008 |
Sep-07-08 11:37 PM |
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? |
BrklynLiberal |
Sep-07-08 11:38 PM |
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Centrist Democrats = pro-corporate Democrats |
Larkspur |
Sep-07-08 11:39 PM |
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A.K.A Republicans |
Lorien |
Sep-08-08 01:34 AM |
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There's nothing bad about being pro business |
Fluffdaddy |
Sep-08-08 06:57 AM |
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There is something wrong |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 07:06 AM |
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And support Telecom immunity after passing the recent FISA bill |
Larkspur |
Sep-08-08 10:12 AM |
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Uh, why don't you just describe for me |
WatchWhatISay |
Sep-07-08 11:47 PM |
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Well since you asked as a teacher I support school vouchers |
akangel2008 |
Sep-08-08 12:02 AM |
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How about a little more money and support for |
Kool Kitty |
Sep-08-08 12:36 AM |
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Two counties in Iowa voted to raise their sales taxes in order |
akangel2008 |
Sep-08-08 12:40 AM |
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i don't understand the school vouchers thing. |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 12:48 AM |
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School vouchers is giving school choice. Let me explain a bit as a teacher. |
akangel2008 |
Sep-08-08 12:59 AM |
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That's part and parcel of Property taxes tho. |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 01:05 AM |
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I certainly understand your situation |
akangel2008 |
Sep-08-08 01:15 AM |
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But here's the thing....I don't mind paying property taxes |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 01:27 AM |
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I disagree |
bookman |
Sep-08-08 01:20 AM |
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Where to start with this malarkey? I know, let's |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-08-08 02:02 AM |
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Since you're a teacher, I'm surprised you hadn't made the point that we ALL stand to benefit |
calimary |
Sep-08-08 03:53 AM |
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excellent post! |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 07:31 AM |
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The "choice" you speak of is an illusion because vouchers do not cover the |
Larkspur |
Sep-08-08 06:03 AM |
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Strange... I have never met a teacher that wasn't opposed to school vouchers (even republican ones). |
demmiblue |
Sep-08-08 06:13 AM |
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School vouchers simply take money from public schools. |
alarimer |
Sep-08-08 07:00 AM |
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However, if you are poverty level |
mrone2 |
Sep-08-08 07:21 AM |
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Are you certified? Just curious. nt |
blondeatlast |
Sep-08-08 10:20 AM |
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Psst...only conservative, Right Wing Democrats are running |
Lorien |
Sep-08-08 01:32 AM |
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THE DLC agrees with you, And so do I. |
Fluffdaddy |
Sep-08-08 06:57 AM |
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I'll never understand why the DLC and Blue Dogs just don't join the GOP |
mrone2 |
Sep-08-08 07:54 AM |
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If they blow this one, they will become extinct. |
Dr.Phool |
Sep-08-08 02:23 PM |
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I love the last line... |
WCGreen |
Sep-07-08 11:40 PM |
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I just hope that all these people |
texastoast |
Sep-07-08 11:45 PM |
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What is this Bullshit? Do they think we're stupid? |
FrenchieCat |
Sep-07-08 11:46 PM |
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have you read the board lately? lots of us apparently are. nt. |
IndianaJones |
Sep-07-08 11:47 PM |
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If we lose this election we will become a dictatorship and we will |
movonne |
Sep-07-08 11:50 PM |
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Yep. This is our last chance to save our country. |
backscatter712 |
Sep-07-08 11:56 PM |
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Leaving the country..... |
honkydonkey |
Sep-08-08 02:15 AM |
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Yea, I'm gone. |
d_b |
Sep-08-08 04:28 AM |
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That demonstrates a callous |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-08-08 02:37 AM |
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How do you think they'll do it? |
GoesTo11 |
Sep-08-08 06:41 AM |
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If that happens, I absolutely wash my hands of this country. |
Crunchy Frog |
Sep-07-08 11:51 PM |
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Same Here |
Yavin4 |
Sep-07-08 11:55 PM |
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Please see my post #54 -- I |
coalition_unwilling |
Sep-08-08 02:44 AM |
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If The Dems Lose, The Party Will Move More To The Right |
Yavin4 |
Sep-07-08 11:53 PM |
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Not in the past... |
CashGap |
Sep-08-08 10:17 AM |
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As a Californian... |
heliarc |
Sep-07-08 11:58 PM |
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Now THAT'S telling them! |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Sep-08-08 12:03 AM |
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Your "free market" politics |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 12:05 AM |
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So you guys are double-teaming again tonight? |
WatchWhatISay |
Sep-08-08 12:31 AM |
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Bravo! These "free market" types are really just "as long as MY ox isn't gored" hypocrites. nt |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 12:46 AM |
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Wow... well... I should use the sarcasm icon a little more... |
heliarc |
Sep-08-08 12:47 AM |
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Californian IT workers have a MUCH larger carbon footprint than Indians. |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 12:48 AM |
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Way to try and divide the party... |
heliarc |
Sep-08-08 01:01 AM |
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ONOES! I "divided the party" by making Mr. Free Trade feel bad! |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 01:04 AM |
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The Big 3 has dragged their feet on Environmentally Friendlier Cars |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:49 AM |
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I didn't... |
heliarc |
Sep-08-08 01:59 PM |
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A big ticket purchase is something that people can't afford to risk buying uncertain quality. |
JVS |
Sep-08-08 02:50 AM |
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I support outsourcing Californian IT jobs for the same reasons! |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 12:44 AM |
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I have work to do with my car... |
heliarc |
Sep-08-08 12:55 AM |
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Right. And I have work to do with my computer. Which is why I support outsourcing IT jobs |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 01:00 AM |
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Elements kick ass! |
Egnever |
Sep-08-08 01:25 AM |
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Honda Loving Democrats can kiss Michigan good bye |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:51 AM |
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Ok see ya! |
Egnever |
Sep-08-08 10:25 AM |
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Unfortunately, if we lose this election... |
regnaD kciN |
Sep-08-08 12:04 AM |
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Obama needs to stop pussyfooting around |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 12:08 AM |
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YES!! |
akangel2008 |
Sep-08-08 12:20 AM |
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Obama is a NAFTA/ "free trade" advocate. Not much distance between he and the DLC on trade. nt |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 12:47 AM |
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If the Democrats lose this election |
NightOwwl |
Sep-08-08 12:31 AM |
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clearly |
amborin |
Sep-08-08 12:36 AM |
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No, I haven't read the book -- But I reject your cynicism |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:54 AM |
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If the Dems lose this election |
knixphan |
Sep-08-08 12:44 AM |
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I agree with you in everything except |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 12:44 AM |
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Solidarity 4 ever, eh? |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:55 AM |
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So i should spend money on a big-ticket item |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 07:29 AM |
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I am not an autoworker |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 07:34 AM |
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Oh. A journalist. |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 07:40 AM |
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???? |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 07:55 AM |
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Ok. Why do you think consumers are to blame |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 08:04 AM |
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The ignorance of this post is ASTOUNDING. Michigan has lost 300,000 jobs since 2000 |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 08:51 AM |
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Not really.... |
MsTryska |
Sep-08-08 07:01 PM |
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I won't care too much... |
FlyingSquirrel |
Sep-08-08 12:48 AM |
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No. |
quakerboy |
Sep-08-08 12:51 AM |
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"thumb their noses at American- made cars." |
depakid |
Sep-08-08 01:39 AM |
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This "they MADE us" buy them stuff is just silly. |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 01:47 AM |
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It's a feedback loop- and no honest person can say that Detroit didn't PUSH them |
depakid |
Sep-08-08 02:06 AM |
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Nope. I can't agree that "Detroit" or "Michigan politicians" MADE you want an SUV |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 07:42 AM |
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It's not about politicians and executives |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:57 AM |
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thumb their noses at american cars? its not our fault american cars tend to suck. |
goletian |
Sep-08-08 02:33 AM |
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Anotehr Broad brush painter |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 06:58 AM |
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And it's not our fault that American IT workers tend to suck, is it? nt |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 07:43 AM |
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DU may not be a cross section of anything but itself, it's not possible... |
bridgit |
Sep-08-08 02:41 AM |
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Obama/Biden is a union's last hope |
progressiveforever |
Sep-08-08 06:06 AM |
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Then they need to act like it |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 07:00 AM |
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"I believe in the Free Market. I believe in Capitalism. I believe in Free Trade." - Barack Obama |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 07:44 AM |
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Pennsylvania is not "going to go with Republicans". Get over it. |
WinkyDink |
Sep-08-08 06:15 AM |
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Wouldn't you say a whole lot of people vote Republican |
Vinca |
Sep-08-08 06:17 AM |
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People on both sides |
Echos Myron |
Sep-08-08 07:03 AM |
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Democrat after Democrat is telling you that they WILL NOT support American labor |
Romulox |
Sep-08-08 08:19 AM |
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We won't have the chance to try again |
Politicub |
Sep-08-08 06:31 AM |
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If Ford/GM didn't make such pieces of shit vehicles, you might find more people buying them. |
alarimer |
Sep-08-08 07:04 AM |
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That's why I started a thread about Obama using _basketball_ for a better emotional connection... |
stevietheman |
Sep-08-08 07:05 AM |
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We CAN'T CAN'T lose this thing |
julialnyc |
Sep-08-08 07:38 AM |
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In 2004, my best friend's daughter drove from IL to MI the day before Election Day |
secondwind |
Sep-08-08 07:44 AM |
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I have always been proud to be called a liberal, and I usually correct them and say |
secondwind |
Sep-08-08 07:42 AM |
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K&R If we lose this one, I don't think it will matter, not until it's desperation and |
NoFederales |
Sep-08-08 08:46 AM |
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If the dems lose this election, already is off track. |
Stevepol |
Sep-08-08 12:14 PM |
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I am very annoyed about our distance from the "Working Class" |
qwlauren35 |
Sep-08-08 12:20 PM |
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So, we WIN by LYING to reach their sensibilties. We NEED TO SCARE THE SHIT OUT OF VOTERS. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Sep-08-08 02:26 PM |
#106 |
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