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Jennifer C Donating Member (760 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-08 07:35 AM
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119. Further information
I looked up the email address of the guy who wrote the post-em and found a discussion he participated in on about the Heath family.

Sarah Heath Palin

Posted by: Michael Barris, Date: August 30, 2008 at 02:00:27 of 5006

What is her pedigree?


Posted by: Nancy Heath Dallaire, Date: September 04, 2008 at 07:55:03 In Reply to: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Barris of 5006

Some of our Heath line, originally based in Bucks County, PA and Hunterdon County, NJ, were also wondering about Sarah Heath Palin's family tree.

During the 1800s, several twigs of our family scattered to California, Minnesota and other parts of the country. However, we have been able to trace and keep track of many of the descendants of Andrew Heath (c. 1665 - 1720) through the most recent generations.

Could Sarah possibly come from one of our migrating Heaths from PA and NJ?

Nancy Heath Dallaire


Posted by: Michael Barris, Date: September 04, 2008 at 09:29:13 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Nancy Heath Dallaire of 5006

See posts 4995, 5001, 5002, 4996, and 4998, in that order.

There is no Andrew Heath in that line, and none of her ancestors had residences in Pennsylvania or New Jersey.


Posted by: Michael Hurdle, Date: September 02, 2008 at 11:40:29 In Reply to: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Barris of 5006

I've been able to trace her Heath ancestry back to a Charles R. Heath who was born circa 1872 in Illinois and lived in Chicago where he was married first to Alice Addie Oriel, who died in 1902. Charles moved with his son Charles F., born 1901, to Los Angeles, CA between 1900 and 1910, and Charles F. removed to Sandpoint, ID in 1948. He was Sarah's grandfather.

Maybe somebody on this list can make the connection to Charles R. Heath, born ca 1872. I have not been able to find him in the 1880 census records. According to the 1900-1930 censuses, his father was born in Illinois and his mother was born in Vermont.


Posted by: Tom Brown, Date: September 02, 2008 at 18:50:57 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Hurdle of 5006

Do you have a name for Sarah's paternal grandmother (Charles R. "Chuck" Heath's mother)? I found a Charles Richard Heath that was born 24 March 1938 in Los Angeles Co, CA whose mother's maiden name was Brandt. Is this the right "Chuck" Heath?


Posted by: Michael Hurdle, Date: September 03, 2008 at 06:00:34 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Tom Brown of 5006

That is the correct one. Charles F. Heath's wife was a Brandt and her father came from Brown County, MN to Los Angeles. The Brandts were originally from Mecklenburg, Germany (early 1800's).


Posted by: Michael Barris, Date: September 02, 2008 at 13:46:16 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Hurdle of 5006

Charles R. Heath was born in 1874 in Starke County, Indiana, the son of Jonathon Heath and Mary E., born in Crawford County, Ohio. Starke County is the third Indiana county east of Chicago, just east of Valparaiso, Porter County, Indiana.

The pedigree is Jonathon <Jonathon <John <Jesse (born 1759, Chatham, Massachusetts; married 1781, Sandown, New Hampshire; died 27 April 1839, Groton, Vermont).


Posted by: Michael Hurdle, Date: September 02, 2008 at 13:25:13 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Hurdle of 5006

I just discovered that Charles Heath was born in Knox County, IL, the son of James W. Heath and Elma Rhodes, and grandson of William Heath and Lucinda Field, great grandson of Sidney Heath and Phebe Foster of Washington County, NY.

Maybe somebody on the list can make a connection with these names -- they are all ancestors of Sarah Heath Palin.



Posted by: Michael Barris, Date: September 02, 2008 at 14:10:34 In Reply to: Re: Sarah Heath Palin by Michael Hurdle of 5006 has Sidney Heath (born 15 February 1791, in Washington County, New York; married 10 September 1811; died 19 October 1859, Woodhill, Henry County, Illinois), the son of Joseph Heath and Mabel Rising. The pedigree is Joseph <Joseph <Isaac <Isaac <Issac Heath (born 1625, Nazeing, Essex County, England; married 16 December 1650, Roxbury, Suffolk County, Massachusetts, died 29 December 1694, Roxbury) <William <Roger <John Heath (born about 1529, Tandridge, Surrey County, England).


Posted by: muhammad abdullah, Date: September 03, 2008 at 17:14:37 In Reply to: Sidney Heath (1791-1859) by Michael Barris of 5006

good afternoon, is sidney heath related to william heath in surry county,virginia in 1682 as well as thomas heath ?


Posted by: Michael Barris, Date: September 04, 2008 at 05:12:24 In Reply to: Re: Sidney Heath (1791-1859) by muhammad abdullah of 5006 has William Heath (born about 1682, Surry County, Virginia-died 8 November 1745 in Surry County). His pedigree is: Adam <William <Sir Robert Heath (born about 1590).

The Web site has five English individuals named "Robert Heath" and born between 1588 and 1592. The pedigrees of none are given. has Sir Robert Heath (1575-1649), Attorney General of England and founder of North Carolina. Neither his pedigree nor his descendants are given.

English tradition is to give the eldest son the name of his father. It is not unreasonable to investigate the possibility that William Heath (1682-1745) shares a common ancestor in Robert Heath (born about 1503) with Sarah Heath Palin.

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     - White Supremacist MRE  deaniac21   Sep-05-08 12:49 PM   #124 
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  - My husband's family is in Sandpoint...  cynatnite   Sep-03-08 10:53 PM   #14 
     - I don't  spokane   Sep-03-08 11:38 PM   # 
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     - Total waste of time?  Raineyb   Sep-04-08 09:57 AM   #82 
        - Furthermore  Forrest Greene   Sep-04-08 10:56 AM   #89 
           - Exactly!  FatDave   Sep-04-08 02:28 PM   #104 
  - and she went back  LooseWilly   Sep-04-08 04:44 AM   #56 
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        - Hey good spin  spokane   Sep-04-08 09:54 AM   #80 
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  - K&R  Lisa0825   Sep-04-08 09:07 AM   #73 
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     - I don't belong to an org  wvbygod   Sep-04-08 05:13 PM   #114 
  - Just like confederate flag people.  BlooInBloo   Sep-04-08 09:20 AM   #75 
  - Wrong...  BlueIdaho   Sep-04-08 09:25 AM   #76 
  - Nobody here wants to hear that, Blue  IDemo   Sep-04-08 11:05 AM   #91 
     - wrong  KingOfLostSouls   Sep-04-08 11:16 AM   #95 
        - You've got a badly twisted sense of logic  IDemo   Sep-04-08 11:25 AM   #97 
           - Amen  BlueIdaho   Sep-04-08 03:06 PM   #106 
  - If you accuse her, you might as well accuse the whole area of Sandpoint's people as well  Life Long Dem   Sep-04-08 09:28 AM   #77 
  - Instead of supporting Sarah Palin  KingOfLostSouls   Sep-04-08 09:46 AM   #78 
  - You have a lot of DU'ers constantly saying watch the attacks.  Life Long Dem   Sep-04-08 11:27 AM   #98 
  - Idaho  Idaho_Independent   Sep-04-08 10:15 AM   #87 
  - k&r!  The Village Idiot   Sep-04-08 09:55 AM   #81 
  - Yes please, chase this one down !! //nt  Overseas   Sep-04-08 11:11 AM   #92 
  - I was wondering about any racial stuff she might have said that might come out  demo dutch   Sep-04-08 11:19 AM   #96 
  - I've been asking this since Day One with Palin. And for her family  kestrel91316   Sep-04-08 12:35 PM   #100 
  - Let's summarize the clues poining toward a Palin/white supremacist  kestrel91316   Sep-04-08 12:53 PM   #102 
  - Sending out subtle code?  chatnoir   Sep-05-08 12:42 PM   #123 
  - k&r  nyc 4 Biden   Sep-04-08 02:47 PM   #105 
  - Maybe that's why her family left Idaho.  cat_girl25   Sep-04-08 04:25 PM   #108 
  - They left because young Sarah wanted to be in beauty pageants  slackmaster   Sep-04-08 04:27 PM   #109 
     - LOL!  cat_girl25   Sep-04-08 04:37 PM   #110 
        - It's only the second time I have posted it  slackmaster   Sep-04-08 04:44 PM   #111 
  - NRA, white supremacists, and Aryan Nations  starroute   Sep-04-08 04:49 PM   #112 
  - Here's a Palin supporter's website to enjoy  starroute   Sep-04-08 07:58 PM   #116 
  - Aryan nation? She looks hispanic to me.  ContinentalOp   Sep-04-08 08:11 PM   #118 
  - Maybe that's why she tries so fervently to be a good little Nazi?  mitchum   Sep-05-08 07:42 AM   #121 
  - Kick  chatnoir   Sep-05-08 07:39 AM   #120 
  - Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo Hoo  deaniac21   Sep-05-08 12:33 PM   #122 

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