flaminbats
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Tue Jan-06-04 12:37 AM
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| 27. Yes it has been raided, and thus we had surpluses in the 90's. |
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Had it not been for Reagan's tax-cut, which Gephardt supported..we would of had surpluses in the 80's and no tax hikes in the nineties.
I only support dipping into the Social Security fund to pay off government debt or for bailing out the Medicare trust fund. Any other reason is immoral. But remember this, if the payroll tax had not been increased..then the deficits would be higher and less money would be available for candidates in cutting taxes on the middleclass!
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| -Dean considering cut in payroll tax! |
dkf |
Jan-05-04 11:10 PM |
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This had been advocated on the original blog |
party_line |
Jan-05-04 11:16 PM |
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And this benefits the middle class self employed business owner - HOW |
SW FL Dem |
Jan-05-04 11:36 PM |
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Maybe we should wait and see what the plan really is |
party_line |
Jan-05-04 11:48 PM |
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Tax Law is my expertise. |
SW FL Dem |
Jan-06-04 12:17 AM |
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Have to wait and see the plan, but |
LuminousX |
Jan-06-04 09:05 AM |
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If that small buisness owner has his payroll tax percentage cut |
w4rma |
Jan-06-04 09:28 AM |
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Can't spend less on payroll unless salaries are cut. |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 09:32 AM |
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Yup. And note that this won't hurt struggling small buisness owners (n/t) |
w4rma |
Jan-06-04 09:43 AM |
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His current tax plan does not include payroll tax changes... |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 09:45 AM |
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For one thing, it puts money in people's pockets. |
Why |
Jan-06-04 10:13 AM |
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that's great! |
eileen from OH |
Jan-05-04 11:18 PM |
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Another change of principled beliefs? |
blm |
Jan-05-04 11:19 PM |
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What change? |
party_line |
Jan-05-04 11:26 PM |
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The reply was to the post above. |
blm |
Jan-05-04 11:35 PM |
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bringing tax levels to where they were under Clinton. |
AP |
Jan-05-04 11:40 PM |
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Heh |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 09:18 AM |
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without digging up my records, it appears that if he rolls back the bush |
bearfartinthewoods |
Jan-06-04 08:35 AM |
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Try these calculators for a simple guesstimate |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 08:40 AM |
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Dean will "treat everybody with respect, if I win." Priceless! |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-06-04 09:15 AM |
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Bravo! It's Been rumored for weeks now...Great move! |
farmbo |
Jan-05-04 11:20 PM |
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Payroll tax cap for 2004 is $87,900, up $900 from 2003. |
flpoljunkie |
Jan-06-04 08:58 AM |
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SS is capped - Medicare is not capped n/t |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 09:01 AM |
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Good one. |
bain_sidhe |
Jan-05-04 11:28 PM |
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will Dean drop the cap on Social Security? |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-05-04 11:28 PM |
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How? |
party_line |
Jan-05-04 11:33 PM |
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then we'll string them up |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-05-04 11:34 PM |
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That's exactly what he proposes to do. |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 09:18 AM |
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If Dean does this, I say the hell with the Democratic Party! |
flaminbats |
Jan-05-04 11:43 PM |
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Social Security isn't on the brink of a crisis, it's solid for another two |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-05-04 11:45 PM |
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That's a great Kerry line! |
flaminbats |
Jan-05-04 11:47 PM |
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I wasn't being sarcastic |
WhoCountsTheVotes |
Jan-05-04 11:51 PM |
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neither am I... |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 12:06 AM |
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Remember when Gore was talking about a "lockbox" for the payroll tax? |
w4rma |
Jan-06-04 09:36 AM |
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No payroll tax is a miserable idea. |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 11:43 AM |
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It could be revenue neutral...with fat cats paying for worker cuts... |
farmbo |
Jan-05-04 11:45 PM |
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Do you realize that since reagan raised the payroll tax it has been... |
JVS |
Jan-06-04 12:09 AM |
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Yes it has been raided, and thus we had surpluses in the 90's. |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 12:37 AM |
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Or the income tax would be increased instead. Taxes are taxes. (n/t) |
w4rma |
Jan-06-04 09:37 AM |
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I disagree. |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 11:30 AM |
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Why do you say that? |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-06-04 11:39 AM |
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Sales tax is regressive, a payroll tax with no income cap would be flat! |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 12:01 PM |
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Do you even understand |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-06-04 12:14 PM |
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Let me repeat my opinion,I support lifting income cap from the payroll tax |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 12:52 PM |
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A-men! Would mean insolvency for Social Security and |
Kahuna |
Jan-06-04 12:55 PM |
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Cat-food will become much too expensive... |
flaminbats |
Jan-06-04 01:18 PM |
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Along with the lyrics from Outkast, the Southern accent, the "I would |
robbedvoter |
Jan-06-04 12:17 AM |
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Check again...Clark does NOT address the Payroll tax |
farmbo |
Jan-06-04 12:25 AM |
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SS/Medicare tax changes will be a tough sell... |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 06:38 AM |
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If Dean cares about all the people you mention |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-06-04 12:19 AM |
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spoken like a true conservative |
Polemonium |
Jan-06-04 08:15 AM |
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Federal income tax pays for local playgrounds? |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 08:19 AM |
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Ahh I'm daring to dream |
Polemonium |
Jan-06-04 08:32 AM |
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You can't have that without making taxes more progressive n/t |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 08:34 AM |
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or something along these lines |
Polemonium |
Jan-06-04 08:40 AM |
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Yeah but it's broad strokes - Where's the fine print? |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 08:43 AM |
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So that your children |
HFishbine |
Jan-06-04 08:26 AM |
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I fought against those tax cuts, didn't you? |
LuminousX |
Jan-06-04 09:18 AM |
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Is the timing suspicious? |
Leilani |
Jan-06-04 12:23 AM |
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No plan - Just political mumbo-jumbo... |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 06:33 AM |
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Actually |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 09:20 AM |
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Show me his proposal - The devil is in the details n/t |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 09:23 AM |
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His proposal is at dfa |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 10:06 AM |
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His DFA proposal rolls back the Bush cuts not payroll taxes... |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 10:09 AM |
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He's all about raising the cap |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 10:12 AM |
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Again it's not in any of his official proposals - conjecture |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 10:14 AM |
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Whatever |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 10:21 AM |
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No I'm just saying it's not been officially proposed... |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 10:23 AM |
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Clark got his plan out there first. Of course, Dean will |
Kahuna |
Jan-06-04 12:56 PM |
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Clark got his plan out first? |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 01:12 PM |
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Kucinich has already introduced the legislation |
eridani |
Jan-06-04 12:24 AM |
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Dennis is on the ball! |
Paulie |
Jan-06-04 09:03 AM |
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I'd like to see this happen |
JNelson6563 |
Jan-06-04 06:30 AM |
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That is much more important to lower income people than the income tax. |
Zynx |
Jan-06-04 06:34 AM |
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Sure! Considering that I live on Social security and pay tax on my savings |
robbedvoter |
Jan-06-04 08:46 AM |
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So Bush made your life better. |
LuminousX |
Jan-06-04 09:25 AM |
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Child credit is one of the cuts Dean blathers against. |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 10:03 AM |
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dean won't raise payroll cap. That's "progressive". Dean is conservative! |
cryofan |
Jan-06-04 09:12 AM |
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Just say Dean is a liar, a dishonest person. |
Hep |
Jan-06-04 09:21 AM |
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Is that article your sig line? |
RUMMYisFROSTED |
Jan-06-04 09:31 AM |
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If the foo shits, wear it. |
revcarol |
Jan-06-04 01:11 PM |
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"… look at reasonable options for expanding the ceiling on payroll taxes." |
w4rma |
Jan-06-04 09:41 AM |
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"dean won't raise payroll cap" |
lifelong_Dem |
Jan-06-04 12:30 PM |
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You mean the Medicare & Social Security taxes we pay? LOL LOL. |
TexasSissy |
Jan-06-04 10:00 AM |
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Wow |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-06-04 10:19 AM |
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I'm trying to figure out if he had an actual proposal? n/t |
SahaleArm |
Jan-06-04 10:22 AM |
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your post seems self-contradictory. Can you clarify? |
cryofan |
Jan-06-04 10:43 AM |
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No, it isn't |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-06-04 11:09 AM |
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I would agree with you--better to fund everything through income taxes |
cryofan |
Jan-06-04 11:26 AM |
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I'm not asking you to believe Dean |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-06-04 11:43 AM |
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To all such critical posts |
PATRICK |
Jan-06-04 10:58 AM |
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This is excellent! |
mzmolly |
Jan-06-04 11:17 AM |
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