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132. How do we know? Most states allow for suing the doctor for 18 years.
Some states up to the age of 21.

Any leak of any kind is an immediate trip to the hospital. Standard of care is to lay the mother down, do a visual and manual assessment, ultrasound, and fetal monitoring. According to Palin, she felt her contractions had changed to real labor as well. With my first, when my contractions changed, she was born in 12 hours. With my second, he was born in 5.

Down's kids have huge health risks, and putting him at higher risk so he was born in the right state--risk of death of Palin and the baby, mind you--is a political stunt of the worst kind.
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  -Okay, all of you who think the pregnancy was not faked... Nine  Aug-31-08 10:52 AM   #0 
  - Not one doctor in the world would allow that. (n/t)  Catch22Dem   Aug-31-08 10:54 AM   #1 
  - How come nobody is considering the possibility that maybe  Solomon   Aug-31-08 11:42 AM   #48 
  - That's right! There is not one single corrupt doctor in the entire world.  fiziwig   Aug-31-08 11:54 AM   #58 
  - So you believe her?  Catch22Dem   Aug-31-08 12:43 PM   #95 
     - Absolutely NOT. I guess I should have included a "sarcasm" smilie, but  fiziwig   Aug-31-08 12:46 PM   #98 
        - No, don't apologize, it's cool  Catch22Dem   Aug-31-08 02:45 PM   #125 
  - Even more so since it was PREMATURE labor.  Kittycat   Aug-31-08 12:52 PM   #102 
  - The baby is hers  Epiphany4z   Aug-31-08 10:55 AM   #2 
  - Fine, then let her explain her actions while in labor.. Knocking her off talking points is a good  Motown_Johnny   Aug-31-08 10:58 AM   #7 
  - Agreed. We can discuss the COLOSSALLY bad judgment and leave  blondeatlast   Aug-31-08 11:33 AM   #36 
  - Need Pictures of S. Palin in earlier pregnancies to show how large she gets  Bernardo de La Paz   Aug-31-08 06:11 PM   #141 
     - Here she is, back when she had tight new muscles  SoCalDem   Aug-31-08 06:43 PM   #143 
        - Thanks. AP says it is undated. Is that 2008 or one of the earlier pregnancies?  Bernardo de La Paz   Aug-31-08 07:18 PM   #147 
           - The AP caption said undated, but the hair places it in 1989  SoCalDem   Aug-31-08 07:31 PM   #148 
  - Isnt there a condition where a woman thinks her water broke - but didnt?  hexola   Aug-31-08 10:55 AM   #3 
  - I think it's called peeing. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Aug-31-08 11:01 AM   #9 
  - Or Insanity.  Dr.Phool   Aug-31-08 11:08 AM   #13 
  - But seriously - Is there a condition that resembles a water break?  hexola   Aug-31-08 11:09 AM   #17 
     - I've had 4 kids and I've never heard of a condition like that. nt  medicswife   Aug-31-08 11:11 AM   #18 
     - Thanks - I dont know either...but you hear about false alarms enough.  hexola   Aug-31-08 11:13 AM   #22 
        - Well a false alarm is more like you're having Braxton Hicks contractions  medicswife   Aug-31-08 11:27 AM   #30 
           - Ahh - thanks, I think that is what I was thinking of...(nt)  hexola   Aug-31-08 11:31 AM   #32 
           - After my water broke  emilyg   Aug-31-08 01:19 PM   #116 
     - Not for me  proud2Blib   Aug-31-08 11:27 AM   #29 
     - No. There's leaking/membranes rupturing - then there's peeing youself unknowingly.  Kittycat   Aug-31-08 12:50 PM   #101 
     - Seriously, "water breaking" that isn't is usually urine.  LeftyMom   Aug-31-08 12:55 PM   #105 
     - Nope.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 06:04 PM   #139 
  - In this instance, I think it's called lying. (n/t)  Jim Lane   Aug-31-08 06:39 PM   #142 
  - Sometimes it just leaks a bit, which is what it sounds like she had.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 11:08 AM   #15 
  - Infection, risking life of baby & herself, plus what about not informing airline of her condition  demo dutch   Aug-31-08 11:24 AM   #27 
  - No. An OB will tell you as you near your EDC  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 12:55 PM   #107 
  - All I know is...  Montauk6   Aug-31-08 10:56 AM   #4 
  - if your water breaks you need to check into the hospital.  ginnyinWI   Aug-31-08 10:56 AM   #5 
  - Under the most extraordinary of circumstances, precious few expectant moms  blondeatlast   Aug-31-08 11:36 AM   #39 
  - do you even know anything else about Palin? Her political history in Alaska? You have a problem  cryingshame   Aug-31-08 10:56 AM   #6 
  - That isn't the point. She needs to define herself to the American Voter. Let's define her as nuts  Motown_Johnny   Aug-31-08 10:59 AM   #8 
  - Palin is in MARVELOUS shape!  Stellen   Aug-31-08 11:04 AM   #10 
  - That wasn't the question.  tinrobot   Aug-31-08 11:08 AM   #14 
     - She's in such good shape she doesn't need to worry about  Stellen   Aug-31-08 11:13 AM   #21 
  - If it happened that way, she demonstrated incredibly  LibDemAlways   Aug-31-08 11:05 AM   #11 
  - If it happened that way, she risked the baby's life and her own. But, I want to see a woman in  No Elephants   Aug-31-08 11:08 AM   #16 
  - She Knew The Baby Was Down Syndrome  otohara   Aug-31-08 11:05 AM   #12 
  - According to the father of the child (I am paraphrasing here),  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:24 AM   #26 
     - So She Does What Ever Hubby  otohara   Aug-31-08 11:54 AM   #60 
  - My take on it is it is a LIE  IWantAnyDem   Aug-31-08 11:11 AM   # 
  - My take on it is it is a LIE  IWantAnyDem   Aug-31-08 11:11 AM   #19 
  - I think it shows vanity and an ego out of control.  tinrobot   Aug-31-08 11:12 AM   #20 
  - comparison at the same time between her previous pregnancies and her most current one:  Max_powers94   Aug-31-08 11:19 AM   #23 
  - Wow - hmm...well THAT is something...  hexola   Aug-31-08 11:30 AM   #31 
  - She is definitiely not the type to hide a pregnancy.  dailykoff   Aug-31-08 11:34 AM   #37 
  - In Britain the Democrats Look Frightened  purgingtheliars   Aug-31-08 12:10 PM   #80 
  - Concern troll?  area51   Aug-31-08 12:43 PM   #94 
  - troll pizza, what  purgingtheliars   Aug-31-08 01:52 PM   #120 
  - LOL. You can't make this shit up.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 12:59 PM   #113 
  - Thanks for the comparison photos. It does it for me. This woman was NOT  Emillereid   Aug-31-08 12:44 PM   #96 
  - There seems to be a problem. From my research so far, Bristol goes to high school in Juneau  OmmmSweetOmmm   Aug-31-08 12:55 PM   #106 
  - The mono story I think is the oddest part of it.  AZBlue   Aug-31-08 06:08 PM   #140 
  - She is a reckless decision maker ---- see this discussion  demo dutch   Aug-31-08 11:21 AM   #24 
  - Who cares? She's HOT, and she will be a complete tool of  kestrel91316   Aug-31-08 11:22 AM   #25 
  - I say that if she WERE faking her pregnancy, she WOULDN'T have made up that story  orangepeel68   Aug-31-08 11:26 AM   #28 
  - supposedly she had another month before the expected birth. i hear she had baby  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 11:33 AM   #35 
  - GRANDMA'S AGAINST TEEN PREGNANCY!!! WOOHOO GRANDPA/GRANDMA '08!!!  Aqaba   Aug-31-08 11:31 AM   #33 
  - i am not saying it is fake. i am not saying it is nuts. i say, one or the other. she gets to  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 11:32 AM   #34 
  - Leaking amniotic fluid doesn't = her water broke they babys comin NOW!!!.  wlucinda   Aug-31-08 11:35 AM   #38 
  - How would the doctor properly diagnose her over the phone?  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:37 AM   #41 
  - I supposed he's educated enough to listen to a women who had already given birth 4 times  wlucinda   Aug-31-08 11:39 AM   #45 
  - How would the doctor know the 44 year old  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:48 AM   #53 
     - lawsuit. cant even get a doctor to tell you to take asprin over the phone for a headache  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 12:16 PM   #87 
        - True that. And OB/GYN is one of the most risky practise areas, hence the professional paranoia.  anigbrowl   Aug-31-08 05:16 PM   #131 
  - I'm sure the doctor was well versed in the Bill Frist school of medicine  Hippo_Tron   Aug-31-08 02:10 PM   #122 
  - yes leaking exactly = water broke. bone up on the medical facts.  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 11:39 AM   #43 
  - IT doesnt mean she was guhing water and ready to pop. And if you know the facts you know that.  wlucinda   Aug-31-08 11:41 AM   #47 
     - it means that she was in danger and she needed medical attention. they dont care  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 11:45 AM   #51 
     - This poster has got to be a man.  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:49 AM   #54 
        - a guy that has no knowledge or info giving out falacy as fact as he challenges fact.... only guys  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 12:04 PM   #72 
           - And she is 44 years old.  lizzy   Aug-31-08 12:09 PM   #77 
              - yup and a special needs baby. i hear ya. unimaginable. n/t  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 12:15 PM   #86 
     - Some of us have actually given birth and are doctors or married to them.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 05:10 PM   #129 
  - YES IT DOES!  Nine   Aug-31-08 11:42 AM   #49 
  - leaking does not = imminent birth in every case. If her doc said she could travel safely  wlucinda   Aug-31-08 12:09 PM   #78 
     - How would this doctor know nothing would happen  lizzy   Aug-31-08 12:11 PM   #82 
     - Her doctor didn't examine her after she reported the leak.  Lars39   Aug-31-08 12:12 PM   #83 
     - But her doc did NOT say she could travel safely, according to the doc herself.  Nine   Aug-31-08 12:16 PM   #88 
     - Thanks for that link. Another I read had different info. But the article you link says  wlucinda   Aug-31-08 01:28 PM   #117 
     - The dr didn't say she could travel. And she wasn't due for another month.  Kittycat   Aug-31-08 12:53 PM   #103 
     - Holy crap. Leaking means you have 24 hours. Period.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 05:07 PM   #128 
  - Changed your headline, I see. How honest.  Nine   Aug-31-08 12:10 PM   #81 
  - ahm you edited it to hide you fuck up. lol lol lol. you are still wrong. edit again. n/t  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 12:18 PM   #89 
  - Except that that is a lie.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 12:57 PM   #110 
  - Her doctor is someone, after this story, I don't trust. Thanks.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 05:15 PM   #130 
     - Stop making so much sense.  Nine   Aug-31-08 05:52 PM   #135 
     - OB Residency is 4 years long  mudderfudder77   Aug-31-08 06:00 PM   #137 
        - My bad. Thought it was the same as surgery.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 06:03 PM   #138 
  - IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER!!!!! What the hell is wrong with you people?!?!  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 11:36 AM   #40 
  - I think it probably BS too but all the posters telling people what to post and what  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 11:40 AM   #46 
  - Yeah, asking people to stick to real issues with empirical facts to back them up is so confining.  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 11:52 AM   #56 
     - Then ask it in a meaningful way rather than scolding them like they are children. nt  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 11:54 AM   #59 
     - Oh, sorry. Obviously, being a woman, expressing my anger is "scolding".  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 11:57 AM   #62 
        - lol, scarlet I am on your side on this. this is a stupid line of discussion  musicblind   Aug-31-08 12:01 PM   #65 
        - Notice how this person asked  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 12:01 PM   #66 
           - Okay, notice how THIS person asked:  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 12:06 PM   #74 
              - Great Post  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 12:19 PM   #90 
                 - Thanks. But I hope you'll notice that even with that "great post" I was STILL accused of  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 12:29 PM   #91 
                    - Things can get hot and out of hand in some posts  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 12:38 PM   #92 
                       - Peace, man. I don't want to argue, either.  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 12:48 PM   #100 
     - the thing, i know it is a HUGH!!!11! concept, i can actually deal with abuse of power probe  seabeyond   Aug-31-08 05:54 PM   #136 
  - It matters. She's a liar.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 12:58 PM   #111 
  - Get her on lying about troopergate. Get her for her questionable tenure as mayor of Wasilla  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 01:42 PM   #118 
     - Here's my point.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 01:50 PM   #119 
        - But there's absolutely NO evidence for any of that! THAT'S the point!  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 02:05 PM   #121 
           - Actually, the deployment thing is not what you are talking about.  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 02:10 PM   #123 
              - Yeah, whatever. I'm sure your argument will go over big with undecided voters.  scarletwoman   Aug-31-08 02:33 PM   #124 
                 - LOL. Actually, IIRC  Midlodemocrat   Aug-31-08 03:00 PM   #127 
  - Paging Dan Rather.. Paging John Edwards.. pick up the red phone  SoCalDem   Aug-31-08 06:50 PM   #145 
  - If her daughter was having the baby and not her then why would she even need to say  Quixote1818   Aug-31-08 11:37 AM   #42 
  - The baby had no complications  Ernesto-Che-Guevara   Aug-31-08 11:39 AM   #44 
  - The bullet wasn't in the chamber, thus the russian roulette player had good judgement.  JVS   Aug-31-08 11:43 AM   #50 
  - She put herself and the baby out of reach of medical help for hours  Lars39   Aug-31-08 11:46 AM   #52 
  - If she went into active labor while on the plane, the plane  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:51 AM   #55 
  - How do you know? Many Down babies have heart problems.  kiranon   Aug-31-08 01:04 PM   #114 
  - How do we know? Most states allow for suing the doctor for 18 years.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 05:19 PM   #132 
  - What a stupid discussion. Makes us look like looney tunes.  Clear Blue Sky   Aug-31-08 11:53 AM   #57 
  - Tell airline you are leaking amniotic fluid and ask them if they  lizzy   Aug-31-08 11:56 AM   #61 
     - That's fine, but in terms of the voters who will determine this election,  Clear Blue Sky   Aug-31-08 12:02 PM   #70 
        - Can I question her decision making process, assuming  lizzy   Aug-31-08 12:06 PM   #73 
           - I guess we can question whatever we want. I'm just more into the politics and questioning that.  Clear Blue Sky   Aug-31-08 12:41 PM   #93 
           - Her politics would probably want to see you imprisoned  Kittycat   Aug-31-08 12:54 PM   #104 
           - Ditto..  pookieblue   Aug-31-08 12:58 PM   #112 
  - Alternate Explaination  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-31-08 11:58 AM   #63 
  - Why didn't she deliver at the bigger hospital in Juneau?  Lars39   Aug-31-08 12:01 PM   #67 
     - It avoid having her kid be born in Texas...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-31-08 12:45 PM   #97 
     - I think the question was, why pass up a better qualified hospital in Juneau...  Kristi1696   Aug-31-08 12:48 PM   #99 
        - Hoo-boy...  Jeff In Milwaukee   Aug-31-08 12:56 PM   #109 
           - Sorry. But I'm from MI....  Kristi1696   Aug-31-08 01:06 PM   #115 
              - Depends on where in Ohio.  knitter4democracy   Aug-31-08 05:20 PM   #133 
     - Why would she need prenatal care? Todd "fluffed her pillow" a few times a week  SoCalDem   Aug-31-08 06:53 PM   #146 
  - The issue isn't about it being fake or not.  vaberella   Aug-31-08 12:00 PM   #64 
  - How many threads are you gonna start about this? Enjoy stirring the pot?  gatorboy   Aug-31-08 12:02 PM   #68 
  - Dupe  gatorboy   Aug-31-08 12:02 PM   #69 
  - How about this? THEY WERE BOTH PREGNANT!  hexola   Aug-31-08 12:03 PM   #71 
  - Oh good lord.  lizzy   Aug-31-08 12:07 PM   #75 
     - I think it makes a much more palusible scenario...You think fake pregnacy makes more sense?  hexola   Aug-31-08 12:08 PM   #76 
        - Oh you can't be serious.  lizzy   Aug-31-08 12:12 PM   #84 
           - As serious as anyone else on this thread...makes more sense to me.  hexola   Aug-31-08 12:13 PM   #85 
  - My take is that I don't give a flying fuck  slackmaster   Aug-31-08 12:09 PM   #79 
  - Why do we give a shit?  Balderdash   Aug-31-08 12:56 PM   #108 
  - But of course it was perfectly safe for her to fly in that condition.  Straight Shooter   Aug-31-08 02:56 PM   #126 
  - Reckless, stupid OR maybe she just didn't care if the baby didn't live. n/t  pnwmom   Aug-31-08 05:47 PM   #134 
  - I have no take on any of that  Awsi Dooger   Aug-31-08 06:47 PM   #144 

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