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Mon Aug-25-08 08:04 PM
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Thanks. I learned a new word. There is an entry on wikipedia: Agitprop (Russian: агитпроп  is a contraction of "agitation and propaganda". <1> The term originated in Bolshevist Russia (the future Soviet Union), where the term was a shortened form of отдел агитации и пропаганды (otdel agitatsii i propagandy), i.e., Department for Agitation and Propaganda, which was part of the Central and regional committees of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. The department was later renamed Ideological Department. The term propaganda in the Russian language didn't bear any negative connotation at that time. It simply meant "dissemination of ideas". In the case of agitprop, the ideas to be disseminated were those of communism, including explanations of the policy of the Communist Party and the Soviet state. In other contexts, propaganda could mean dissemination of any kind of beneficial knowledge, e.g., of new methods in agriculture. "Agitation" meant urging people to do what Soviet leaders expected them to do; again, at various levels. In other words, propaganda was supposed to act on the mind, while agitation acted on emotions, although both usually went together, thus giving rise to the cliché "propaganda and agitation".
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| -Ladies and Gentlemen, may I have the floor? |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 05:45 PM |
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Very well said. |
azmouse |
Aug-25-08 05:46 PM |
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"an Epic, Orchestrated, Classic GOP Ratfuck." |
NYC_SKP |
Aug-25-08 05:47 PM |
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And it will work... |
phantom power |
Aug-25-08 05:47 PM |
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It can't work if the Dems there make it really obvious it's not true. |
redqueen |
Aug-25-08 05:52 PM |
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The point of this thread? NOT THIS TIME. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 05:55 PM |
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Glad to hear it! |
redqueen |
Aug-26-08 09:11 AM |
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Perhaps. As I see it, the challenge is... |
phantom power |
Aug-25-08 05:57 PM |
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Well, I wouldn't count KO and Rachel Maddow out, and remember.... |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:03 PM |
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I hear KO is aquitting himself well already. |
phantom power |
Aug-25-08 06:31 PM |
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And your certainly on the money. |
go west young man |
Aug-26-08 11:14 AM |
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Every one of the Dem spokespeople who gets a microphone shoved in their face... |
DCKit |
Aug-26-08 02:29 PM |
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Hear fucking hear! |
redqueen |
Aug-25-08 05:48 PM |
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Donald Segretti would be so proud. - n/t |
lapfog_1 |
Aug-25-08 05:48 PM |
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K&R! |
Xipe Totec |
Aug-25-08 05:50 PM |
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K&R |
knixphan |
Aug-25-08 05:51 PM |
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K&R! Spread the word!!! |
tblue |
Aug-25-08 05:51 PM |
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Kick. Recommend. Read this. |
The Traveler |
Aug-25-08 05:51 PM |
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Losing this election = having it stolen. |
NYC_SKP |
Aug-25-08 05:52 PM |
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Right, and there comes a time where you have to hit the bully back. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 05:56 PM |
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remember 2006. |
ginnyinWI |
Aug-26-08 11:53 AM |
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Sure it will be stolen from us. |
howmad1 |
Aug-26-08 04:27 PM |
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K & R. |
Notorious Bohemian |
Aug-25-08 06:00 PM |
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kick. highly recommended. |
poli speak |
Aug-25-08 06:03 PM |
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K & R |
Arkansas Granny |
Aug-25-08 06:04 PM |
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The only way we can win is to fear the Republicans |
ProSense |
Aug-25-08 06:05 PM |
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I prefer... |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:09 PM |
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Kickin' my own thread... Chuck Todd is kinda making my point on MSNBC right now. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:13 PM |
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Good point... those people aren't disruptors... |
redqueen |
Aug-26-08 09:14 AM |
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K&R |
mvd |
Aug-25-08 06:13 PM |
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Why, thank you, darlin'! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:17 PM |
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You're welcome! |
mvd |
Aug-25-08 06:25 PM |
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So where are the cops? ..., |
guruoo |
Aug-25-08 06:19 PM |
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I'm thinking about it... |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:26 PM |
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dingdingding! |
guruoo |
Aug-25-08 06:34 PM |
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Dammit! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:41 PM |
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Sorry, |
guruoo |
Aug-25-08 06:58 PM |
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That's why I don't like Code Pink there... |
EC |
Aug-25-08 06:56 PM |
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When I was in DC at the Iraq War Protest last September... |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:58 PM |
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That's because he was more than likely someone who could be |
EC |
Aug-25-08 07:03 PM |
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Either that, or.... |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 07:06 PM |
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I was there too! |
Marrah_G |
Aug-26-08 04:32 PM |
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Amen Jen!!!! |
BlueIdaho |
Aug-25-08 06:21 PM |
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The thing about the sixties is they used law enforcement to |
EC |
Aug-25-08 06:24 PM |
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Oh, please tell more! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:29 PM |
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Mayor Daily sure didn't help much... |
EC |
Aug-25-08 06:41 PM |
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Excellent post. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:44 PM |
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K&R |
me b zola |
Aug-25-08 06:25 PM |
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K&R.nt |
nam78_two |
Aug-25-08 06:25 PM |
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Tweety called it agitprop |
FatDave |
Aug-25-08 06:36 PM |
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Agitprop = ratfucking |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 06:40 PM |
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Wait a second... Tweety is thwarting a GOP narrative? |
phantom power |
Aug-25-08 06:43 PM |
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Tweety's been on our side since the 7-10 houses thing broke. |
FatDave |
Aug-25-08 06:46 PM |
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OK. I'll roll with that. |
phantom power |
Aug-25-08 07:00 PM |
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Tweety has a man crush on Obama. |
yardwork |
Aug-26-08 02:04 PM |
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Agitprop. |
WIllo |
Aug-25-08 08:04 PM |
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So which term do you prefer? |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 08:22 PM |
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I like them both. And, yes I'd say they are the same. |
WIllo |
Aug-25-08 09:08 PM |
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K&R |
ZombyWoof |
Aug-25-08 07:34 PM |
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Well, hello there!!!! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 08:19 PM |
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Woohoo! |
ZombyWoof |
Aug-25-08 08:22 PM |
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Oh, good, I'm glad you're joyless! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 08:46 PM |
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Kick Recommend |
Life Long Dem |
Aug-25-08 07:58 PM |
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The GOP is scheming and plotting to destroy us. |
Olney Blue |
Aug-25-08 08:53 PM |
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Watch cspan. No talking heads, no commercials |
MiniMe |
Aug-25-08 09:01 PM |
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But of course. However, not seeing ratfucking doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 09:02 PM |
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Thank you! |
Marrah_G |
Aug-25-08 09:04 PM |
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My pleasure |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 09:08 PM |
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Seen It, Heard & Felt It For FAR TOO MANY Years... Me? I'm SICK Of |
ChiciB1 |
Aug-26-08 10:14 AM |
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yeah but hundreds of people just read your post and learned something that we didn't know |
CreekDog |
Aug-27-08 03:43 AM |
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Hey hey VolcanoJen! Thanks for breaking this, it's as REAL as Sin.. |
symbolman |
Aug-25-08 09:25 PM |
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Well, hi you!!!! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 11:30 PM |
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Glad to see you too, gorshk! |
symbolman |
Aug-26-08 02:52 AM |
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Jen, I PROUDLY K&R this. |
AngryOldDem |
Aug-25-08 09:49 PM |
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Well, hello darlin'! |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 01:16 AM |
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What's more, I'm sending it out to those who don't read DU often. |
AngryOldDem |
Aug-26-08 08:55 AM |
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Excellent post!!! Contains nothing but truth. |
BrklynLiberal |
Aug-25-08 11:01 PM |
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As an aside, isn't it funny the way the Wiki "ratfucking" entry refers to a guy named JOHN MCCONE? |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-25-08 11:40 PM |
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The GOOPers rat fucking is not new...been at it for years...but the level and |
opihimoimoi |
Aug-26-08 01:26 AM |
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GOP sleazy tactics make me long for the days when we were chillin' at the fish pond. |
oasis |
Aug-27-08 03:51 AM |
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K&R n/t |
caseycoon |
Aug-26-08 06:54 AM |
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K&R |
mrone2 |
Aug-26-08 07:01 AM |
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There's no doubt about it |
jumptheshadow |
Aug-26-08 07:03 AM |
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Ack |
jumptheshadow |
Aug-26-08 08:41 AM |
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Unfortunately this is so true |
socialdemocrat1981 |
Aug-26-08 07:16 AM |
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Recommended! |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 07:17 AM |
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Here's some info on Christi Atkins (one of the "Just Say No Deal Coalition" women): |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 07:44 AM |
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Cristi "Fatloss Forever" Adkins |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:47 PM |
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Thanks for the extra info, Jen... |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 01:09 PM |
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Either Obama is a Muslim, or he was a follower of Reverend Wright. They can't have it both ways... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Aug-26-08 01:51 PM |
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She was a pip, wasn't she? |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 02:13 PM |
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The crazies are coming out of the woodwork, yet again... |
Rhiannon12866 |
Aug-26-08 03:06 PM |
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Tweety's looking for conflict because conflict=ratings... |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 05:57 PM |
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Of course he is, but his method pisses the rest of us off, while KO manages to |
Rhiannon12866 |
Aug-26-08 06:30 PM |
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And the KING RAT KKKROVE |
Historic NY |
Aug-26-08 07:25 AM |
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K&R |
cabbage08 |
Aug-26-08 07:33 AM |
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I've been saying this for months, and was attacked and shouted down -- you're right |
LostinVA |
Aug-26-08 07:38 AM |
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You couldn't be more right. |
whrab |
Aug-26-08 07:54 AM |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Aug-26-08 08:01 AM |
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K&R! |
Jesuswasntafascist |
Aug-26-08 08:21 AM |
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K&R |
cricket08 |
Aug-26-08 08:36 AM |
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Nicely said, now what can be done about it? |
apnu |
Aug-26-08 08:37 AM |
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What a smart kid I have! n/t |
Kukesa |
Aug-26-08 09:03 AM |
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Good article, but |
Malidictus Maximus |
Aug-26-08 09:05 AM |
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K&R. It's all GOPMedia, All the Time. |
sourmilk |
Aug-26-08 09:18 AM |
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K&R |
Iwillnevergiveup |
Aug-26-08 09:36 AM |
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Yes, even foreign media takes the bait |
mogster |
Aug-26-08 09:58 AM |
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"Police good, demonstrators bad" |
Kukesa |
Aug-26-08 10:09 AM |
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Yep, they still don't get it |
mogster |
Aug-26-08 10:24 AM |
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I'm doing my best here in Ohio, Mr. Norway! n/t |
Kukesa |
Aug-26-08 10:27 AM |
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(((((( Kukesa )))))) |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:58 PM |
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Watching CNN yesterday after I got home and they started |
Sentinel Chicken |
Aug-26-08 10:47 AM |
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Sorry I missed that |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:41 PM |
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Thanks Jen for adding the proper term to my lexicon! |
mod mom |
Aug-26-08 11:15 AM |
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KnR with a heavy heart. We knew that the Reich Wing wouldn't go peaceably. nt |
Hekate |
Aug-26-08 11:23 AM |
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Thanks Jen. Well said. K&R n/t |
myrna minx |
Aug-26-08 11:28 AM |
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K&R |
gemdem |
Aug-26-08 11:39 AM |
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Good to know you're still enjoying DU, gemdem! n/t |
Kukesa |
Aug-26-08 11:41 AM |
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Fascinating. I'm a trojan but I never knew this originated at USC. |
ContinentalOp |
Aug-26-08 11:58 AM |
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UPDATE: This post over at RumpRoast proves my point. |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:24 PM |
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Jen, as usual--you are so on top of things... |
TwoSparkles |
Aug-26-08 12:30 PM |
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There's a great blog that's been all over these PUMA Republicans |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:38 PM |
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That is a great and very funny site |
FKA MNChimpH8R |
Aug-26-08 03:39 PM |
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That is so weird! |
OHDEM |
Aug-26-08 12:34 PM |
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I am not so sure that everyone is involved |
listener_ |
Aug-26-08 12:54 PM |
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Welcome to DU |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 12:57 PM |
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Its pathetic and disgusting. Sad thing is, is that a majority of Americans can think for themselves |
Danieljay |
Aug-26-08 01:05 PM |
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Out of curiousity... does anyone know a Democrat who drives a Hummer? |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 01:10 PM |
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k&r |
yardwork |
Aug-26-08 02:01 PM |
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K&R |
TexasObserver |
Aug-26-08 02:05 PM |
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I have now noted this several times... |
SidneyCarton |
Aug-26-08 02:35 PM |
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read |
barbtries |
Aug-26-08 02:46 PM |
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That's what Segretti ADMITTED to... |
Cooley Hurd |
Aug-26-08 03:13 PM |
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Just a bit... yes. |
redqueen |
Aug-26-08 03:28 PM |
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Sending pizzas isn't ratfucking |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-26-08 07:27 PM |
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Pugs Using Masquerade Attack Strategy, PUMAS ( NEO-CONGS) |
chknltl |
Aug-26-08 03:34 PM |
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Precisely |
VolcanoJen |
Aug-27-08 03:16 AM |
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Jen, you performed a great service with this thread |
FKA MNChimpH8R |
Aug-27-08 03:34 AM |
#135 |