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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-21-08 10:55 AM
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9. Liking babies is indeed programmed into our DNA.
And not considering newborns to be babies also seems programmed into us.

Some mothers have an ingrained reaction of hostility to their newborn that fades over time. A mother is supposed to be emotionally able to walk away from a deformed newborn. I suspect that fierce conflict between instinct and socialization accounts for some of post-partum depression.

(Anyone who has seen a lot of mother cats with her newborns is familiar with the harsh calculus that goes on sometimes.)

I have never read about an ancient society that did not "expose" certain newborn infants. (Leaving them outside to die.) In the Old Testament a baby under one moth old has an entirely different legal status. And, as mentioned in the OP, most societies have had some christening process.

Here's another thought experiment. Catholics used to believe that unbaptized babies went to limbo or hell or someplace outside the grace of God... dogma changes, but the point is that they didn't go to heaven. (Until the 1960s, I think)

To get into heaven you had to be baptized.

Now then, when was a baby baptized? Obviously at the moment of birth, since its soul was in peril!!!

But that's not the case at all. Babies were, and are baptized some period after birth. That reflects what seems to be our instinctual idea that new borns grow into person-hood during the early stages of post-natal life.
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  -The Obama "infanticide" smear wouldn't trouble me even if it were true. Kurt_and_Hunter  Aug-21-08 09:31 AM   #0 
  - K. To reread later. Interesting analysis. nt  PaulHo   Aug-21-08 09:47 AM   #1 
  - The definitive factor in Roe is biological viability upon separation.  sharesunited   Aug-21-08 10:09 AM   #2 
  - Quite true. I forgot to add this thought experiment in the OP > > >  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 10:13 AM   #4 
  - "how incapable most people are of rational thought on the subject of choice" is so true.  TooBigaTent   Aug-21-08 10:09 AM   #3 
  - You can't really fault people for being sentimental about babies.  sharesunited   Aug-21-08 10:21 AM   #5 
     - A smear of cells is not a baby. A gestated-for-nine-month fetus is closer. nt  TooBigaTent   Aug-21-08 10:42 AM   #6 
     - Liking babies is indeed programmed into our DNA.  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 10:55 AM   #9 
  - it is garbage  bcoylepa   Aug-21-08 10:44 AM   #7 
  - To paraphrase Audie Murphy...  Iggo   Aug-21-08 10:50 AM   #8 
  - One more thought re: the idea of life beginning at separation  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 11:32 AM   #10 
  - Is it really a MORAL question?  pajamamama   Aug-21-08 12:13 PM   #11 
  - When does a zygote become "human" in your opinion?  redqueen   Aug-21-08 12:19 PM   #13 
  - I wasn't arguing it as a moral question, but noting that no moral question raised would change  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 12:49 PM   #16 
  - Progressivism has involved a steady expansion of rights, however...  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 01:29 PM   #18 
  - K&R  Paint It Black   Aug-21-08 12:17 PM   #12 
  - I hadn't even heard this smear...  redqueen   Aug-21-08 12:20 PM   #14 
     - It was made against him by Alan Keyes back in 2004  endthewar   Aug-21-08 12:40 PM   #15 
     - It's BS, but it's making another round  Kurt_and_Hunter   Aug-21-08 12:50 PM   #17 

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