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Tue Aug-19-08 06:10 PM
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| 3. I hope she is, because I believe that's our BEST chance.. but not our ONLY chance. |
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There are other good choices as well.
Especially Bayh and Clark.
If not, then Biden.
All the others will help us lose.
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| -Yes, Even At the Last Hour, I Still Believe In My Heart That It Will Be Hillary As VP. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:07 PM |
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It's totally going to be John Edwards. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-19-08 06:09 PM |
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I am really glad Obama didn't pick him. |
Alexander |
Aug-19-08 06:14 PM |
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You're a hooligan! I missed that |
zidzi |
Aug-19-08 06:41 PM |
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In my heart, it's going to be Tom Hanks. Let's all be wrong. nt |
valerief |
Aug-19-08 06:10 PM |
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Nope, It will be George Clooney. |
ZinZen |
Aug-19-08 06:30 PM |
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I'll bet you a buck three eighty it's |
valerief |
Aug-19-08 06:34 PM |
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One day, maybe one day! |
Spazito |
Aug-19-08 08:33 PM |
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I hope she is, because I believe that's our BEST chance.. but not our ONLY chance. |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Aug-19-08 06:10 PM |
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Polls show a majority of registered voters DON'T want her on his ticket, and she's the best chance? |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 08:23 PM |
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Sorry, DU polls don't count. We are talking about the General Election n/t |
jesus_of_suburbia |
Aug-19-08 08:37 PM |
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HAHAHAHA!! It wasn't a DU poll, friend. |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 09:58 PM |
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If he doesn't select her |
tenaciousradical |
Aug-19-08 06:12 PM |
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I want Hillary but |
emilyg |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Here's hoping you get your wish, emilyg. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 07:50 PM |
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Funny. IMO it's just the opposite. If he chooses her, it's political suicide. NT |
NYCGirl |
Aug-19-08 06:16 PM |
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Ya think? |
tenaciousradical |
Aug-19-08 09:12 PM |
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Yep, the most uninvolved wingnut would crawl over broken glass to vote against |
NYCGirl |
Aug-20-08 02:00 PM |
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If he DOES select her |
Laurab |
Aug-19-08 10:16 PM |
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Hillary on the ticket will cause repugs to swarm to the polls. Even dead ones will vote. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 11:00 PM |
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I'm totally hoping that this is a Linus waiting for the Great Pumpkin situation |
JVS |
Aug-19-08 06:13 PM |
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Thanks for this post. |
Harvey Korman |
Aug-19-08 06:14 PM |
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Appreciated. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:18 PM |
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I dont know what O will do |
wlucinda |
Aug-19-08 06:14 PM |
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Thank you, wlucinda. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:28 PM |
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Hillary would be ok with me and Biden would be ok with me. I think either |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Hillary would be ok with me and Biden would be ok with me. I think either |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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the problem isn't Hillary, David, it's her husband |
ruggerson |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Frankly, I don't think there would be any problem getting him to take a sabbatical until Nov. |
Harvey Korman |
Aug-19-08 06:17 PM |
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If they can figure out how to do that |
ruggerson |
Aug-19-08 06:24 PM |
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Wow, what a perfect post. Couldn't agree more. |
KAZ |
Aug-19-08 06:18 PM |
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Excellent post. |
Kristi1696 |
Aug-19-08 06:20 PM |
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"On her own, slam dunk" |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 09:23 PM |
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Hillary would be ok with me and Biden would be ok with me. I think either |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Hillary would be ok with me and Biden would be ok with me. I think either |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Hillary would be ok with me and Biden would be ok with me. I think either |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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Could you repeat that? |
JVS |
Aug-19-08 06:16 PM |
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I still can't believe I landed in the middle of it |
ruggerson |
Aug-19-08 06:17 PM |
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You did. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:27 PM |
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Hey, sorry, just got back, I don't know why that went 3 times, eom |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 09:11 PM |
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The Arguments Against Her |
DarthDem |
Aug-19-08 06:15 PM |
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I agree. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:33 PM |
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I've been reading for many months how Obama is the nominee |
styersc |
Aug-19-08 08:03 PM |
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My view is that Barack is the nominee and if he picks her then she is the |
EV_Ares |
Aug-19-08 09:15 PM |
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I'm convinced it will be Clark. |
Alexander |
Aug-19-08 06:18 PM |
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And you make a lot of strong arguments for it. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 09:34 PM |
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Good post. Very covincing. Except.... |
earthlover |
Aug-19-08 06:18 PM |
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If Obama picks Hillary I will be |
asjr |
Aug-19-08 06:32 PM |
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It unifies the entire party and unites the base. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 07:49 PM |
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Richardson chose Obama over her, but she aligned herself with McCain against Obama. |
Oregonian |
Aug-19-08 06:35 PM |
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Yes, we know, because you have started 30 threads about it. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-19-08 06:38 PM |
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Guess What? |
DarthDem |
Aug-19-08 06:40 PM |
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Guess what? When someone posts the same topic over and over .... |
TexasObserver |
Aug-19-08 06:44 PM |
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Tell that to the Usual Suspects (they know who they are). |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:33 PM |
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Is it really 30? |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 06:53 PM |
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You're setting yourself up for a major emotional disappointment |
scheming daemons |
Aug-19-08 08:24 PM |
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Perhaps. But my support of Obama in the primaries was vindicated. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:33 PM |
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Nah! It will be Nancy Pelosi... |
golddigger |
Aug-19-08 07:24 PM |
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your emotional attachment has clouded your judgment |
JackORoses |
Aug-19-08 07:30 PM |
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The Denise Show on SNL |
Ichingcarpenter |
Aug-19-08 07:36 PM |
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ahahahahaha! |
JackORoses |
Aug-19-08 07:52 PM |
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I've never seen Zephyr to be a Clinton Supporter...in all my years here, though... |
KoKo01 |
Aug-19-08 08:16 PM |
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I wish that I had your faith my friend, but I don't see it. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 07:44 PM |
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Beacool |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:25 PM |
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I will do more than that, I will buy you a whole crown of flowers. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 09:10 PM |
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Now you are talking! |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 09:16 PM |
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Yes, but it won't happen. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 09:37 PM |
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You make a detailed case... |
Naturyl |
Aug-19-08 07:50 PM |
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Except...it DOESN'T unify the entire party. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-19-08 07:52 PM |
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She got a lot of votes....and maybe those voters didn't know what the Clintons did to undermine |
KoKo01 |
Aug-19-08 08:07 PM |
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Plus, POLLS SHOW A MAJORITY OF REGISTERED VOTERS DO NOT WANT HER ON HIS TICKET. |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 08:26 PM |
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A lot of people can't stand Obama, but will suck it in and vote for him. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 09:32 PM |
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Sorry... |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-19-08 10:25 PM |
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No, I think others are the cultists. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 10:38 PM |
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So, are you saying you think Obama supporters are cultists? |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-19-08 11:05 PM |
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Isn't that how you described some of Hillary's supporters? |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 11:21 PM |
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Yes, it is, because that's what they are. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Aug-19-08 11:25 PM |
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Her favorability rating among Dems is higher than...I won't complete that for the sake of unity |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:36 PM |
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I don't think the "Handlers" will allow that. But, I understand what you say... |
KoKo01 |
Aug-19-08 07:58 PM |
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Thanks KoKo01 |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:19 PM |
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I have been no Hillary fan - probably an understatement. But I |
Laura PackYourBags |
Aug-19-08 08:08 PM |
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LPYB. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:20 PM |
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The party it would energize |
verges |
Aug-19-08 11:20 PM |
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BTW, I Hear Al Gore is Speaking on Thursday in the Stadium...Can you IMAGINE...OBAMA//HILLARY/GORE |
KoKo01 |
Aug-19-08 08:14 PM |
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Yes, it would be spectacular. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:22 PM |
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If Obama plans on "unity" being more than just another slogan |
paulk |
Aug-19-08 08:16 PM |
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Thank you paulk. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:23 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Aug-19-08 08:27 PM |
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Paulk is a solid and good Democrat. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:32 PM |
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It would jnot surprise me if he did. |
IWantAnyDem |
Aug-19-08 08:17 PM |
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Yes. I am counting on it, IWantAnyDem |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:38 PM |
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Bookmarked for when it's not. |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 08:22 PM |
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Already booked his last dissertation on the subject last week.... |
scheming daemons |
Aug-19-08 08:23 PM |
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I'm still waiting on him to take your bet |
davidpdx |
Aug-21-08 11:44 PM |
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Et tu? |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:30 PM |
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I just don't see it happening. |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 10:01 PM |
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I would be delighted, but am not holding my breath. |
InvisibleTouch |
Aug-19-08 08:27 PM |
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Here's hoping you will be delighted. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 08:43 PM |
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Oh, I agree with you, but... |
InvisibleTouch |
Aug-19-08 09:56 PM |
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I think there is one reason, and only one reason, that is keeping him from picking her. |
pirhana |
Aug-19-08 08:31 PM |
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Sorry, but I've personally seen polls that show her KILLING us with Independents. |
thecatburgler |
Aug-19-08 08:35 PM |
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post the polls, then |
paulk |
Aug-19-08 10:45 PM |
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Your polls depend on Romney being McCain's pick. What if it's someone else? |
thecatburgler |
Aug-19-08 10:59 PM |
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how convenient |
paulk |
Aug-19-08 11:08 PM |
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I'LL SUPPORT HER, BUT YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE DAMAGE SHE DID BY HANGING IN TOO LONG |
AmericanUnity |
Aug-19-08 08:39 PM |
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Damage? |
tenaciousradical |
Aug-19-08 09:23 PM |
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You know, the usual story. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 11:24 PM |
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I am against Hillary being on the ticket... but at this point |
adoraz |
Aug-19-08 08:43 PM |
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Paris Hilton has a better shot than Clinton. |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 08:45 PM |
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I want some of what your smoking. |
tenaciousradical |
Aug-19-08 09:20 PM |
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Do you mean |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 09:52 PM |
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On Countdown, Wolffe who basically works for the Obama campaign said |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-19-08 09:20 PM |
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Bill Clinton will not disclose his finance statements for vetting- Daily Telegraph |
Ichingcarpenter |
Aug-19-08 09:22 PM |
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"Clinton, who is so careful in what she says" - like lying about Tuzla? |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 10:03 PM |
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Thank you for this well articulated, thoughtful post. It's nuanced even |
CampDem |
Aug-19-08 09:27 PM |
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Flame away, I got my asbestos suit on, |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 09:43 PM |
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Does it tell you anything that Karl Rove wants Obama |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 09:54 PM |
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Nope, you are wrong. |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 09:57 PM |
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And you are correct. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 10:05 PM |
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Thanks David!!! |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 10:22 PM |
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We don't visit PUMA sites, sorry. |
Zhade |
Aug-19-08 10:08 PM |
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Wiseguy, keep spreading the hate and I will personally pull out |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 10:18 PM |
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HAHAHAHA |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:15 PM |
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Laugh away, Rove may be a lower form of life, |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 10:20 PM |
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And why does he want to HELP Obama get elected? |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:23 PM |
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He's an analyst at FOX now and he was asked by Colmes |
Beacool |
Aug-19-08 10:34 PM |
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What he said fit nicely into what you already believe |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:53 PM |
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Rove wants Dems to be suspicious just like you are right now. You're thinking- if Rove thinks |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:51 PM |
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As I explained upthread, you're reacting exactly the way Rove wants you to. As I posted: |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:49 PM |
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And you're reacting just as Rove wants you to. He knows by bringing up the best VP choice many on |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:46 PM |
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How many times are you going to say that? |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:54 PM |
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I think you're proving my point. And I don't understand you're last comment. Do you mean rooting for |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:58 PM |
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Y'all are QUOTING Karl Rove and saying he's giving good |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 11:03 PM |
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Of course not. But some of his supporters? Well... |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 11:10 PM |
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You do think he's an idiot. He'd HAVE to be an idiot to choose |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 11:11 PM |
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Gotta Ask... |
WillyT |
Aug-19-08 09:56 PM |
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Maybe because he was vetted by the voters and won two national elections. |
David Zephyr |
Aug-19-08 10:34 PM |
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That's not the kind of vetting he's talking about. |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:56 PM |
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That was pre-library donor list. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 11:27 PM |
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I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath... |
cynatnite |
Aug-19-08 10:05 PM |
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I hope not bad choice |
Top Cat |
Aug-19-08 10:06 PM |
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Barack can go with a 35 year old turnip |
TheKentuckian |
Aug-19-08 10:36 PM |
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I REALLY want Hillary for VP. But he won't pick her. And that makes me sad more than angry. When you |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 10:29 PM |
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Cheer up. At least the sniper fire didn't get her overseas. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 10:55 PM |
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If Obama loses, he can thank supporters like you. |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 11:11 PM |
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No he can thank Hillary if she's on the ticket. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 11:13 PM |
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Why would Obama lose because a person |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 11:19 PM |
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Now playing: "The Stepford Supporters". Rated LOL n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 11:23 PM |
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Stepford? |
David Zephyr |
Aug-20-08 02:27 PM |
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You realize what the implication of making such statements is, don't you? |
JVS |
Aug-19-08 11:38 PM |
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You want her so badly you are willing to take advice from |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 10:57 PM |
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And you. |
MetricSystem |
Aug-19-08 11:11 PM |
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And I what? |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 11:12 PM |
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Wait till Rush starts pushing for Hillary. They will be kissing his ring. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 11:11 PM |
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Yep. Then it'll be "oh well Rush Limbaugh gives |
Erin Elizabeth |
Aug-19-08 11:12 PM |
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Like I said |
Ichingcarpenter |
Aug-19-08 11:16 PM |
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IT'S KAINE BELIEVE ME - THEY ARE BEST BUDDIES - Virginia, etc., tellin' ya nt |
flamingdem |
Aug-19-08 10:49 PM |
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I believe in my heart it will NOT be hillary. She gives me heartburn. n/t |
greguganus |
Aug-19-08 10:55 PM |
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Maybe you are right. n/t |
wisteria |
Aug-19-08 10:55 PM |
#127 |
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So do I, but who knows? nt |
jobycom |
Aug-19-08 11:20 PM |
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Hell, I still think Clinton will win the nomination. |
BlooInBloo |
Aug-19-08 11:32 PM |
#154 |
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Bah, it'll be Schweitzer....... |
Phoonzang |
Aug-19-08 11:53 PM |
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Not going to happen |
Prophet 451 |
Aug-20-08 01:00 AM |
#157 |
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Well, based on the actions of the Clintons and their supporters, it sure does seem |
Skwmom |
Aug-20-08 02:58 PM |
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I believe Obama will make a very intelligent decision |
cricket08 |
Aug-20-08 03:03 PM |
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No, but it would be great if she was |
clovis29 |
Aug-21-08 11:36 PM |
#162 |
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