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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-07-08 06:05 PM
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28. Point by point rebuttal
"Science is flipflopping" - at least it doesn't rely on something based on faith like creationism and the intelligent design most talk about

"The New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, (MS)NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN and BBC are not credible sources" - no, the FAUX News they watch makes them think that's how all news should be. And if not credible, it's because they cover up for McCain and Bush.

"Liberalism doesn't work.

Liberalism is where:

- The hard-working pay for the lazy. (no, liberalism rewards hard work by making it easier to get off the ground - and not all rich are hard working)
- The harder-working get punished for their effort through added taxes. (Again, not all rich are hard working. And the rich don't exactly hurt by paying higher taxes. At the same time, the country's infrastructure is more secure.)
- The people who wait to have children until they can afford them pay for people who can't afford them. (undertones of racism, and if they have this view, why are they against choice?)
- Take possession of brilliant ideas and don't give any credit to inventors. (nonsense - doesn't even need to be addressed)
- Think that huge government bureaucracy is better than thousands of job-producing companies. (Liberals are not socialists. Liberals want adequate consumer protections)
- Think Americans get rich off greedy corporations who are only interested in making a profit. The truth is that Americans get rich off capitalism fostering the invention of many items and devices seen today. (what we have is capitalism run wild where competition is less and inventions are not as valued because of the decreased competition. Corporations take advantage of tax loopholes)
- Embraces the fact that the poorest and laziest people in society contribute the least while taking the most. (This "lazy" idea doesn't take into account the job loss and unemployment. No, conservatives, not everyone can become rich.)
- Hates rich corporations, yet fail to acknowledge how many people they employ and how many millions they contribute to society via taxes and charity. (corporations are increasingly after their own interests and not for those that keep them alive)

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  -"How can this race be so close?" Stop asking! Here's why! DutchLiberal  Aug-07-08 07:24 AM   #0 
  - board probably Ailes-funded  annabanana   Aug-07-08 07:27 AM   #1 
  - question  DangerDave921   Aug-07-08 07:29 AM   #2 
  - You can't  liberal N proud   Aug-07-08 07:34 AM   #4 
  - I disagree  DangerDave921   Aug-07-08 07:37 AM   #5 
     - I believe it has been shown that people who define themselves as "liberal" are more educated  PinkyisBlue   Aug-07-08 12:07 PM   #18 
        - interesting  DangerDave921   Aug-07-08 01:05 PM   #19 
           - Interesting.  PinkyisBlue   Aug-08-08 11:05 PM   #38 
  - Like the other poster said: you can't.  DutchLiberal   Aug-07-08 07:48 AM   #7 
  - According to a former president of the Indiana Right to Life:  ieoeja   Aug-08-08 02:06 PM   #32 
     - How on earth could that joke make fun of Mexicans?  EstimatedProphet   Aug-08-08 02:37 PM   #33 
     - A little more info helps explain that (though not by much).  ieoeja   Aug-08-08 03:42 PM   #34 
     - "Liberals believe people are inherently good." I sure don't.  DutchLiberal   Aug-08-08 08:24 PM   #35 
  - It's really terrifying how the Mentally Challenged get decide who leads this country  Heather MC   Aug-07-08 07:32 AM   #3 
  - Gulliani showed as a leader in early polling  randr   Aug-07-08 07:38 AM   #6 
  - OMFG  eshfemme   Aug-07-08 08:01 AM   #8 
  - Yes there are ignorant and downright stupid people  LibDemAlways   Aug-07-08 08:13 AM   #9 
  - THANK YOU!!!!!!!!  qwlauren35   Aug-07-08 01:09 PM   #20 
     - You're welcome. But, in all truthfulness, I don't consider  LibDemAlways   Aug-07-08 05:43 PM   #24 
  - Because the national popular vote doesn't matter  MaineDem   Aug-07-08 08:17 AM   #10 
  - Yep, that's one of the major problems with democracy.  progressoid   Aug-07-08 08:19 AM   #11 
  - Anybody remember 2000? or 2004? That's how this race is so close.  predfan   Aug-07-08 08:43 AM   #12 
  - Try Every Election Since 1968  Median Democrat   Aug-07-08 06:01 PM   #27 
  - ask these people if they are millionaires  darboy   Aug-07-08 09:08 AM   #13 
  - That's a good one! Somehow, I feel sorry for them...  DutchLiberal   Aug-07-08 09:10 AM   #14 
  - There's the first problem . . .  HughBeaumont   Aug-08-08 01:49 PM   #31 
     - 'Chairborne Divisioneers'!  DutchLiberal   Aug-08-08 08:26 PM   #36 
  - I checked it out and  Froward69   Aug-07-08 09:13 AM   #15 
  - I don't think  rniel   Aug-07-08 09:19 AM   #16 
  - Yeah, I know, that's why I quit after one day. And also the reason for this thread.  DutchLiberal   Aug-07-08 09:24 AM   #17 
  - Disagree because....this group of people only make up a part of..  HardWorkingDem   Aug-07-08 01:21 PM   #21 
  - Why Did Bill Clinton Win Less Than 50% Of Popular Vote in 1996?  Median Democrat   Aug-07-08 06:00 PM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-07-08 01:48 PM   #22 
  - the idiots account for roughly 41%  27inCali   Aug-07-08 02:05 PM   #23 
  - McBush has got Electrolytes. n/t  Indenturedebtor   Aug-07-08 06:00 PM   #25 
  - Point by point rebuttal  mvd   Aug-07-08 06:05 PM   #28 
  - Good work; I didn't have the energy to go through all the trouble...  DutchLiberal   Aug-08-08 01:28 PM   #29 
  - What is "SLiberalismry?"  LWolf   Aug-08-08 01:34 PM   #30 
  - Yeah, I know, I messed up. And by the time I caught it, editing-time had expired...  DutchLiberal   Aug-08-08 08:28 PM   #37 
     - Well, that makes sense.  LWolf   Aug-09-08 11:56 AM   #39 
  - Because one of the candidates is a Black Man???  Butch350   Aug-15-08 09:45 AM   #40 
  - I'm not surprised it's close at all..  Mudoria   Aug-15-08 10:52 AM   #41 
  - Because a strategy of polarization and smearing and misinformation has  wiggs   Aug-15-08 11:31 AM   #42 
 

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