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107. If he said the sky was blue
you'd find some attack on Obama in that.
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  -Why is Bill Clinton pushing his "I'm not a Racist" story the week after McCain's Race Card Claim? JackORoses  Aug-05-08 05:45 AM   #0 
  - I think Bill Clinton is lost in the wilderness.  Chipper Chat   Aug-05-08 05:48 AM   #1 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 06:43 AM   #16 
  - Intentional or not, it undermines Obama at a bad time.  cali   Aug-05-08 05:49 AM   #2 
  - it's like he's saying, "look, Obama did it to me, too"  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 05:59 AM   #5 
  - yes, that's exactly the message that's being sent.  cali   Aug-05-08 06:01 AM   #6 
     - No. What's disappointing is how a great American President was slandered and defiled - SWIFTBOATED  chimpymustgo   Aug-05-08 07:23 AM   #42 
        - we disagree. Obama's campaign was the one that was remarkably restrained  cali   Aug-05-08 07:39 AM   #51 
        - Clinton was swiftboated. He was called a racist and his  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-05-08 08:12 AM   #58 
        - No, he wasn't. He was called on his misconduct.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:33 AM   #63 
        - We will have to agree to disagree.  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-05-08 08:43 AM   #71 
           - This is about Bill's misconduct NOW.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:47 AM   #73 
              - I don't know  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-05-08 09:05 AM   #83 
                 - That's right, you don't.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 11:18 AM   #110 
                 - Sad  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-05-08 09:41 PM   #142 
                    - Sad  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 12:01 AM   #151 
                       - Just responding in kind  Evergreen Emerald   Aug-06-08 05:59 AM   #172 
                 - AMEN.  TankLV   Aug-05-08 11:57 PM   #149 
                 - Not just the Clintons, but anyone who cares about this country, I expect them to help elect Obama  kdpeters   Aug-06-08 07:41 AM   #176 
                 - Well said. He played right into their hands.  beac   Aug-06-08 10:09 AM   #184 
                    - Actually he did say something like that, so his instincts were right. He just changed his mind.  kdpeters   Aug-06-08 01:02 PM   #203 
                 - Look! the media were the ones insinuating that..  butterfly77   Aug-06-08 01:03 PM   #204 
                    - It reminds me of the nebulous Judas-Bill Richardson line of Carville's  genna   Aug-07-08 07:45 AM   #220 
        - As to attacking his presidency,  karynnj   Aug-05-08 08:38 AM   #68 
        - When you gamble something you might lose it.  JVS   Aug-05-08 08:51 AM   #75 
        - You said it - and he likely never considered he could lose  karynnj   Aug-05-08 09:07 AM   #84 
        - This is something that many refuse to acknowledge  ellacott   Aug-05-08 09:15 AM   #88 
        - I agree. He was swiftboated, treated very unfairly, and has every right to be angry.  highplainsdem   Aug-05-08 08:51 AM   #76 
        - BEING angry is one thing.  beac   Aug-06-08 10:26 AM   #187 
        - Clinton was "SwiftBoated" ??!!!  bvar22   Aug-05-08 12:54 PM   #121 
        - Yep - only the obambots/clinton haters will never see it...  TankLV   Aug-05-08 11:56 PM   #148 
           - He made those stupid and racist comments. Whether or not he's a racist  Indenturedebtor   Aug-06-08 10:54 AM   #193 
           - Look! don't blame the people who support Obama...  butterfly77   Aug-06-08 01:05 PM   #206 
        - He was not swiftboated  karynnj   Aug-05-08 08:30 AM   #60 
        - Bill was called on his racist comments and other misconduct.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:48 AM   #74 
           - Care to post the actual quotes, with actual links?  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:36 AM   #159 
        - here we go with the bill clinton = sweet little baby jesus line again...  dionysus   Aug-05-08 08:42 AM   #70 
        - I'd hardly call him great.  IWantAnyDem   Aug-05-08 09:56 AM   #103 
        - Bill Clinton may not be a Racist, but he ws certainly acting like one in the Primaries  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 04:47 PM   #130 
        - It's not slander to point out his and his wife's lies and race-baiting.  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:16 AM   #153 
        - Swift boated? Bill Clinton? Jesse Jackson won SC/I don't have to take that sh*t off him  genna   Aug-07-08 07:35 AM   #218 
           - Bill Clinton did it all to himself, with his big fat mouth.  TexasObserver   Aug-07-08 07:37 AM   #219 
  - No it doesnt  niceypoo   Aug-05-08 07:27 AM   #46 
     - Even within his response, the racist comment came out of the blue  karynnj   Aug-05-08 08:44 AM   #72 
        - Yup....  Me_Shell   Aug-05-08 10:45 AM   #104 
        - Seeing racism in everything is, in itself, racist  niceypoo   Aug-06-08 12:00 AM   #150 
  - Things that make you go hmmmm. nt  Kahuna   Aug-05-08 05:58 AM   #3 
  - because he's a self-involved and damaged person & I think he subconsciously he wants to hurt Barack  BklynChick   Aug-05-08 05:58 AM   #4 
  - Pretty much a nail on the head ...  Cosmocat   Aug-05-08 06:01 AM   #7 
  - I don't think it's sub-couscious, I think it's a very Conscious thing he is hoping to do  Heather MC   Aug-05-08 06:33 AM   #10 
  - I agree with you. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing. He was passive-aggressive in 2000 and 2004, too.  blm   Aug-06-08 12:01 PM   #197 
  - Nailed it!  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:34 AM   #64 
  - he is probably tired of hearing the allegations from sites  DrDan   Aug-05-08 06:17 AM   #8 
  - Sorry, it's a truly legitimate issue.  cali   Aug-05-08 06:33 AM   #9 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 06:36 AM   #11 
  - tut. tut. tut. Go read the DU rules. Calling other posters "idiots" is  cali   Aug-05-08 06:55 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:06 AM   #24 
     - enjoy your stay here  cali   Aug-05-08 07:10 AM   #27 
        - I see you are still stuck in primary mode  niceypoo   Aug-05-08 07:36 AM   #48 
           - that's a ridiculous and patently untrue little bash, poo.  cali   Aug-05-08 07:44 AM   #52 
              - Your response proves me correct  niceypoo   Aug-06-08 12:04 AM   #152 
                 - You wish SO HARD it did, but from an outsider -- no, it doesn't.  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:35 AM   #158 
  - "your candidate"?  lojasmo   Aug-05-08 07:05 AM   #23 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:14 AM   #32 
        - I believe the point was that Obama is YOUR candidate too.  JVS   Aug-05-08 07:16 AM   #34 
  - you are right about WLC reading comments from here . . . but  DrDan   Aug-05-08 06:39 AM   #14 
     - Who is WLC?  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:27 AM   #155 
  - You'd have a point if Bill hadn't brought it up himself  LittleClarkie   Aug-05-08 07:34 AM   #47 
  - he was asked a question - and read in to the question what the interviewer was really asking  DrDan   Aug-05-08 07:38 AM   #49 
     - No, he was ready with his comment, even though it wasn't responsive to the question.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:36 AM   #66 
        - you might enjoy this site - they focus on conspiracy theories  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:07 AM   #85 
           - you knew about it, but I didn't, so that says a lot about you, doesn't it?  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 09:12 AM   #87 
           - well - sure seems like you have this "conspiracy" all figured out  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:23 AM   #92 
              - Unlike you, I don't frequent conspiracy sites.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 09:49 AM   #99 
                 - no reason to visit them, I guess  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:52 AM   #101 
                    - You should stop peddling conspiracy sites.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 11:12 AM   #108 
                       - "You seem to be able to cultivate the conspiracy quite well all by yourself."  DrDan   Aug-05-08 11:37 AM   #112 
                          - Sorry, but I don't buy into your crazy conspiracy theories.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 11:58 AM   #114 
                             - well - one of us posted "Bill Clinton has sold out to the forces of evil. "  DrDan   Aug-05-08 12:11 PM   #116 
                                - If you don't know that's a fact, you need to do some research.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 12:22 PM   #119 
                                   - what is your problem?  DrDan   Aug-05-08 01:30 PM   #123 
                                      - I think you started that line of attack with your conspiracy site post  Egnever   Aug-05-08 02:02 PM   #127 
                                      - shame you cannot see the difference - oh well  DrDan   Aug-05-08 02:12 PM   #128 
                                      - Bingo!  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 02:17 PM   #129 
                                      - why don't we just say this whole line of posts started with  DrDan   Aug-06-08 07:29 AM   #175 
                                         - Because it started with your irrational, angry personal attacks.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 09:57 AM   #181 
                                            - and I stand by my comments as well  DrDan   Aug-06-08 10:27 AM   #188 
                                            - angry? not at all.  DrDan   Aug-06-08 11:02 AM   #194 
                                            - Facts, not theories. Bill sat down with a dictator to get oil rights for a conservative billionaire.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 11:15 AM   #195 
                                            - so let me ask you a couple of questions  DrDan   Aug-06-08 12:32 PM   #200 
                                            - So now that I've shown you the facts about Bill's selling out, you want to switch to bashing Obama?  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 01:33 PM   #210 
                                            - thought so  DrDan   Aug-06-08 01:41 PM   #211 
                                            - Good bye, Mr. Obama Hater. Too bad you can't be honest.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 02:10 PM   #212 
                                            - there you go again  DrDan   Aug-06-08 02:17 PM   #214 
                                      - Now you're reduced to stealing lines from Foghorn Leghorn?!  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 12:52 AM   #167 
                                         - I confess to having to look up Foghorn Leghorn  DrDan   Aug-06-08 07:18 AM   #173 
                                            - There you go again.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 07:53 AM   #177 
                                               - nope - no cross  DrDan   Aug-06-08 08:06 AM   #178 
                                               - dupe  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 10:00 AM   #182 
                                               - No one asked Bill to "fall on his sword," just to "shut his big mouth!"  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 10:02 AM   #183 
                                               - not sure why he would need to do that  DrDan   Aug-06-08 10:22 AM   #185 
                                               - Because he's supposed to be a Democrat and care about our winning.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 11:33 AM   #196 
                                               - please do not assume you know anything about my preferences or commitments  DrDan   Aug-06-08 12:27 PM   #198 
           - takes me 10 minutes to drive home from work  swampg8r   Aug-05-08 10:45 PM   #146 
              - I agree - it is a very entertaining show  DrDan   Aug-06-08 10:24 AM   #186 
                 - but its real?  swampg8r   Aug-06-08 11:21 PM   #216 
                    - and I always thought it was absolutely real  DrDan   Aug-07-08 06:24 AM   #217 
                       - im not worried about here  swampg8r   Aug-07-08 10:15 AM   #222 
  - Telling the truth about their lies isn't bashing.  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:23 AM   #154 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 06:38 AM   #12 
  - See you in your coffin, Mattombstonelo  BeyondGeography   Aug-05-08 07:21 AM   #39 
     - Wow, the mods really dealt with that one fast!!  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 07:47 AM   #54 
  - He knows he just can't say something like you and I over such an issue.  Life Long Dem   Aug-05-08 06:38 AM   #13 
  - I am not a racist like Barack implied and I won't say Barack is qualified...  sfam   Aug-05-08 06:42 AM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 06:45 AM   #17 
  - please stop stinking up this thread with juvenile attacks.  cali   Aug-05-08 06:58 AM   #21 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:13 AM   #30 
  - Actually, they did,  polmaven   Aug-05-08 07:18 AM   #37 
  - oops - last time I checked he had a right to that  DrDan   Aug-05-08 07:02 AM   #22 
  - He doth protesteth far too mucheth.  nc4bo   Aug-05-08 06:47 AM   #18 
  - You need to understand how Bill's mind works  endthewar   Aug-05-08 06:55 AM   #20 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:07 AM   #25 
  - go back to whatever hate site you came from  cali   Aug-05-08 07:12 AM   #29 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:16 AM   #33 
  - Actually,  polmaven   Aug-05-08 07:24 AM   #43 
  - And, being SO intelligent, he should have IGNORED the bait instead  beac   Aug-06-08 10:34 AM   #189 
     - That's right. He went out of his way to volunteer a negative response.  TexasObserver   Aug-06-08 02:12 PM   #213 
  - Bill is about Bill 24/7. Always has been, always will be.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 07:08 AM   #26 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-05-08 07:11 AM   #28 
     - No one called Bill a racist. They said he played the race card, which he did.  Skwmom   Aug-05-08 07:17 AM   #35 
     - Oh stop  ellacott   Aug-05-08 07:20 AM   #38 
     - Are you new to DU? Bill Clinton was called a racist right here. nt  yadayadayada   Aug-05-08 07:23 AM   #41 
        - The Obama camp didn't call him a racist, Clyburn didn't either  ellacott   Aug-05-08 07:44 AM   #53 
        - You can find people saying anything on DU  karynnj   Aug-05-08 08:08 AM   #57 
        - What was posted on DU is irrelevant.  No Elephants   Aug-05-08 09:50 AM   #100 
     - Stop attacking other posters for having opinions you don't like.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 07:26 AM   #45 
  - He's in Legacy Repair Mode, or at least he thinks he is.  JVS   Aug-05-08 07:13 AM   #31 
  - That was the first question that came to mind when I saw the news story. n/t  MrWiggles   Aug-05-08 07:17 AM   #36 
  - Me, too. I cringed the instant I heard it and thought "why, Bill?!"  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 07:24 AM   #44 
  - And your post IS an effort for unity? nt  yadayadayada   Aug-05-08 07:21 AM   #40 
  - it's quite interesting that the folks who try and shut up any criticism of Bill Clinton  cali   Aug-05-08 07:52 AM   #56 
     - Good point  ellacott   Aug-05-08 08:31 AM   #61 
     - and the people that continually criticize the Clintons rail against  DrDan   Aug-05-08 08:33 AM   #62 
     - I think that was the point of the post  ellacott   Aug-05-08 08:52 AM   #78 
        - no -the point of the post was to continue to drive a wedge  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:08 AM   #86 
           - No, the point is that it goes both ways  ellacott   Aug-05-08 09:18 AM   #90 
              - huh???? Perhaps I am missing your point - but the OP, as I read it,  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:27 AM   #93 
                 - I'm not talking about the OP  ellacott   Aug-05-08 09:28 AM   #95 
                 - oh - sorry - was getting confused  DrDan   Aug-05-08 09:31 AM   #96 
                    - That's ok  ellacott   Aug-05-08 09:34 AM   #97 
                 - That's the SECOND TIME you called him WLC, which means the first wasn't a typo.  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:34 AM   #157 
                    - not sure why I typed that . .  DrDan   Aug-06-08 07:27 AM   #174 
     - bill clinton is the little baby jesus dontcha know...  dionysus   Aug-05-08 08:55 AM   #80 
  - He sure said and did some racist things. It's about WHAT HE DID AND SAID NOT WHAT HE IS.  JTFrog   Aug-05-08 07:38 AM   #50 
  - If one does racist things, they are a racist. He's a racist.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 08:38 AM   #69 
     - What "Racist things" did he do... Please provide links, with video preferably.  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:39 AM   #161 
  - I'm just really, really disappointed in Bill.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 07:50 AM   #55 
  - 2012, 2012, 2012, 2012 - Bill's mantra.  polichick   Aug-05-08 08:14 AM   #59 
  - No 2012 For The Clintons  No Elephants   Aug-05-08 09:54 AM   #102 
     - Try to tell them that! :)  polichick   Aug-05-08 11:44 AM   #113 
  - I sincerely believe it's no accident  IWantAnyDem   Aug-05-08 08:36 AM   #65 
  - Interviewer :President Clinton, how do you feel about the racism charges made against you?"  mtnester   Aug-05-08 08:37 AM   #67 
  - Do you have a link to the interviewer asking that?  karynnj   Aug-05-08 08:52 AM   #77 
  - It was a paraphrase  mtnester   Aug-05-08 08:54 AM   #79 
  - I read the entire thing  karynnj   Aug-05-08 09:03 AM   #81 
     - And I suppose you think the DU comments of the portion I listed are actual quotes too?  mtnester   Aug-05-08 09:16 AM   #89 
  - I watched the interview, and Bill's response was a non sequitur.  TexasObserver   Aug-05-08 09:05 AM   #82 
     - Carry on then  mtnester   Aug-05-08 09:28 AM   #94 
     - Thanks - that was what I thought , but as I hadn't watched it I wanted  karynnj   Aug-05-08 09:47 AM   #98 
  - Hmmmmph!  maddiejoan   Aug-05-08 09:20 AM   #91 
     - Enthusiastic endorsement and campaiging will do.  No Elephants   Aug-05-08 10:53 AM   #105 
     - or he could just keep his mouth shut. is that really so much to ask?  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 04:54 PM   #131 
  - I don't think we really need his kind of 'unity'. I've had it with him. I'm done.  cliffordu   Aug-05-08 10:55 AM   #106 
  - If he said the sky was blue  MonkeyFunk   Aug-05-08 10:55 AM   #107 
  - Why is it so hard to believe some people were ACTUALLY offended by his remarks?  Lucky 13   Aug-05-08 11:15 AM   #109 
  - Because it doesn't fit monkeyfunk's narrative .....  scheming daemons   Aug-05-08 11:24 AM   #111 
     - they are merely running with the Victim card first played by the Clintons  AtomicKitten   Aug-05-08 04:59 PM   #134 
        - The Victims are all over this thread  sniffa   Aug-05-08 05:12 PM   #138 
           - here's a synopsis of what you're missing ...  AtomicKitten   Aug-05-08 05:19 PM   #140 
  - do you not see a difference in "the sky is blue" and "Jesse Jackson won SC in 84 and 88"?  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 04:57 PM   #132 
     - Saying Jesse Jackson won SC isn't racist  MonkeyFunk   Aug-05-08 05:03 PM   #135 
        - This is so funny  ellacott   Aug-05-08 05:06 PM   #136 
        - oh? what else do Obama and Jackson have in common?  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 05:08 PM   #137 
        - The quote, as described my Rep Meeks, included ALL democratic primary winners from the last 30 years  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:44 AM   #164 
           - so what do Jackson and Obama have in common, other than skin color?  JackORoses   Aug-06-08 01:10 PM   #207 
        - NAME ONE THING OBAMA and J.JACKSON HAVE IN COMMON BESIDES THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN.  Lucky 13   Aug-06-08 10:38 AM   #190 
        - HELLO?!?! Still waiting for your reply....  Lucky 13   Aug-06-08 01:04 PM   #205 
  - Bill could've just NOT answered the questions AGAIN!! Come on Bill man, get on board with us  uponit7771   Aug-05-08 12:08 PM   #115 
  - If Bill Clinton thinks that this denial at this time is going repair his relationship  FrenchieCat   Aug-05-08 12:17 PM   #117 
  - Clinton was poised with precisely what he wanted to say in his non sequitur response.  AtomicKitten   Aug-05-08 12:19 PM   #118 
  - Many of these charges against Bill Clinton..  LanternWaste   Aug-05-08 12:29 PM   #120 
  - one good thing from that interview - tells me Hillary is NOT v.p. :)  Whisp   Aug-05-08 12:57 PM   #122 
  - silver lining there  JVS   Aug-05-08 01:52 PM   #126 
  - She never had a chance anyway.  Zhade   Aug-06-08 12:37 AM   #160 
  - It's not that deep  KingFlorez   Aug-05-08 01:48 PM   #124 
  - is it BILL that is pushing it?? n/t  Scout   Aug-05-08 01:51 PM   #125 
  - yep. He's a smart man. He knows what words to use. He knows about timing.  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 04:59 PM   #133 
     - he's not the one PUSHING anything  Scout   Aug-06-08 09:51 AM   #179 
  - Yes, Jack, it's all part of the Vast Clinton Conspiracy only you and a few other haters can see.  Skip Intro   Aug-05-08 05:18 PM   #139 
  - please explain his timing  JackORoses   Aug-05-08 05:42 PM   #141 
  - Was this a press conference? My understanding was he was answering a question.  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:40 AM   #162 
     - you are ignoring the fact that Bill is a smart man. He knows what to say and what not to say.  JackORoses   Aug-06-08 01:13 PM   #208 
  - "Barack Obama is no Martin Luther King"  Major Hogwash   Aug-05-08 10:32 PM   #144 
     - Lilnk?  Skip Intro   Aug-05-08 10:48 PM   #147 
     - Strangely, no one EVER seems to have a link to Bill Clinton's horrible, racist comments.  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:41 AM   #163 
        - Were you watching tv in January?  Major Hogwash   Aug-06-08 12:56 PM   #201 
     - well, Barack is NOT Martin Luther King ... no one is  Scout   Aug-06-08 09:52 AM   #180 
        - And Bubba ain't Thomas Jefferson!!  Major Hogwash   Aug-06-08 12:58 PM   #202 
           - who said Bill Clinton was Thomas Jefferson?  Scout   Aug-06-08 05:52 PM   #215 
  - Agreed. A completely stupid thing for him to do--at best. n/t  gulliver   Aug-05-08 09:53 PM   #143 
  - He's trying to restore his legacy.  anonymous171   Aug-05-08 10:35 PM   #145 
  - Stop the baseless smears, he isn't racist. He simply stating it, the reporter asked the question.  Kerry2008   Aug-06-08 12:29 AM   #156 
  - Probably no more of an agenda than the people who accused him of being racist in the first place.  LVjinx   Aug-06-08 12:46 AM   #165 
  - Keeping race, front and center works against Obama  SoCalDem   Aug-06-08 12:48 AM   #166 
  - Yeah, yeah. So pissed that Hillary is, GASP, campaigning for Obama.  Kerry2008   Aug-06-08 01:03 AM   #168 
     - She said she would, and she is.. and she's hopeful that  SoCalDem   Aug-06-08 01:04 AM   #169 
        - Really? Seems Hillary has helped Obama more than vice versa.  Kerry2008   Aug-06-08 01:09 AM   #170 
           - Um..he's kinda busy these days... less than 100 days to go  SoCalDem   Aug-06-08 01:13 AM   #171 
           - What, precisely, would you like him to do for her?  Lucky 13   Aug-06-08 10:45 AM   #191 
  - Nothing matters but his ego. I think he's trying to attack Obama  Indenturedebtor   Aug-06-08 10:49 AM   #192 
  - Maybe because he's not a racist, and someone asked him about that?  RedShoes   Aug-06-08 12:32 PM   #199 
     - The question was not about race, though he decided to make that his answer, odd....  Bensthename   Aug-06-08 01:31 PM   #209 
        - Not odd at all. He's embittered. Angry.  Mystery2Me   Aug-07-08 08:12 AM   #221 
 

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