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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-03-08 12:48 PM
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15. Really? I rarely run into anyone who has seen ONE.
Or even a part of one. They may say they base their decision on the debates, but what they're really basing it on is the MSM snippets from the debate - the stupid faux pas, the "stair stumble" how their hair looked - along with the MSM interpretation of those peripheral events.

I think the audiences were different back in the Nixon/Kennedy days - I think more people actually watched the news and cared about what was going on. Even in the Reagan days, I doubt the candidates could have been allowed to slide by with these cursory puff pieces they do now.

But now it takes just the slightes provocation to get the MSM to veer off into Stupidland. Suddendly the conversations are about Brittney and Paris. Or whether Obama called McSame a "racist" or not - never mind having an actual conversation about "race" itself. It's all so Lowest Common Denominator, and the LCD is one who watches American Idol and I Survived a Japanese Game Show.

That's why I think the debates - thought necessary and good for America - will not result in anything.
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  -Folks, the Debates aren't going to "save the day". donco6  Aug-03-08 10:53 AM   #0 
  - The media seemed to generally agree that Kerry destroyed Bush in #1,  Occam Bandage   Aug-03-08 10:54 AM   #1 
  - That's true. If ever I doubted it, that doubt was dispelled after the 1st Kerry-Bush debate.  CTyankee   Aug-03-08 11:07 AM   #5 
  - Bush did too poorly in the first debate for even the MSM to fabricate a win  Lirwin2   Aug-04-08 02:06 AM   #33 
  - Gore and Kerry lacked something Obama doesn't.  GarbagemanLB   Aug-03-08 10:58 AM   #2 
  - That's a good point, however . . .  donco6   Aug-03-08 11:03 AM   #4 
  - OK. McCrabby can have the sympathy vote. I don't really think  babylonsister   Aug-03-08 11:13 AM   #7 
  - The economy is going to decide this election  Quixote1818   Aug-03-08 11:26 AM   #11 
  - delete n/t  politicasista   Aug-03-08 03:17 PM   #20 
  - I think we'll have to trust the votic public to know better this time around.  zanne   Aug-03-08 10:59 AM   #3 
  - I am Sure We Will Get The Vote of Every Thinking American  AndyTiedye   Aug-04-08 12:47 AM   #30 
  - Nixon-Kennedy  Ghost of Tom Joad   Aug-03-08 11:11 AM   #6 
  - See my post above about leveling the playing field.  donco6   Aug-03-08 11:15 AM   #9 
  - I'm not sure the average person watches debates...  RazBerryBeret   Aug-03-08 11:13 AM   #8 
  - Not Sure That I Agree  salonghorn70   Aug-03-08 11:23 AM   #10 
  - I'm with you. I think many Americans base their opinions solely  babylonsister   Aug-03-08 11:57 AM   #12 
  - Really? I rarely run into anyone who has seen ONE.  donco6   Aug-03-08 12:48 PM   #15 
  - Ford-Carter.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-08 03:41 PM   #23 
  - The problem is, those debates all preceded the 24 hour cable infotainment that passes for political  scarletwoman   Aug-03-08 03:47 PM   #24 
     - Check this, scarlet.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-08 03:49 PM   #26 
        - I'm not saying debates can't have a good effect, I was just pointing out that the earlier examples  scarletwoman   Aug-03-08 04:06 PM   #27 
           - I understand, but had Kerry failed at any of the debates, he would've lost.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-08 04:14 PM   #28 
  - I Couldn't Agree More...  BPAW   Aug-03-08 12:37 PM   #13 
  - What Other Chance Have We Got for Obama To Reach Uncommitted Voters?  AndyTiedye   Aug-03-08 12:43 PM   #14 
  - If they're uncommitted, they're not going to watch a debate.  donco6   Aug-03-08 12:52 PM   #16 
  - You've actually argued why Obama will win the debates...  Kristi1696   Aug-03-08 12:57 PM   #17 
  - I couldn't imagine Bush winning over Kerry.  donco6   Aug-03-08 01:06 PM   #18 
  - Disagree. Kerry didn't win the election, but the debates certainly  Midwestern Democrat   Aug-03-08 02:24 PM   #19 
  - It is absolutely UP TO US!  AZBlue   Aug-03-08 03:32 PM   #21 
  - no, Kerry lost because he had a manicure.  FLDem5   Aug-03-08 03:37 PM   #22 
  - I disagree.  Drunken Irishman   Aug-03-08 03:48 PM   #25 
  - Respectfully disagree. Obama can't take anything for granted  politicasista   Aug-03-08 04:24 PM   #29 
  - Obama may trigger mcDanger's latent anger. It will give him a chance to show how unstable mcSplode  truthisfreedom   Aug-04-08 12:50 AM   #31 
  - Also, Obama is a better 'speaker' than debater... if you watched the primary  JCMach1   Aug-04-08 12:52 AM   #32 
  - What matters is how McCain's defined in over the next several weeks  depakid   Aug-04-08 02:20 AM   #34 
  - The MSM will declare McCain the winner at least once on the grounds  anonymous171   Aug-04-08 03:12 AM   #35 
  - the 2004 elections were close because of the debates  JI7   Aug-04-08 03:23 AM   #36 
  - The press with feed McCain the questions and wire him for the answers.  McCamy Taylor   Aug-04-08 04:16 AM   #37 
 

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