donco6
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Sun Aug-03-08 12:48 PM
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| 15. Really? I rarely run into anyone who has seen ONE. |
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Or even a part of one. They may say they base their decision on the debates, but what they're really basing it on is the MSM snippets from the debate - the stupid faux pas, the "stair stumble" how their hair looked - along with the MSM interpretation of those peripheral events.
I think the audiences were different back in the Nixon/Kennedy days - I think more people actually watched the news and cared about what was going on. Even in the Reagan days, I doubt the candidates could have been allowed to slide by with these cursory puff pieces they do now.
But now it takes just the slightes provocation to get the MSM to veer off into Stupidland. Suddendly the conversations are about Brittney and Paris. Or whether Obama called McSame a "racist" or not - never mind having an actual conversation about "race" itself. It's all so Lowest Common Denominator, and the LCD is one who watches American Idol and I Survived a Japanese Game Show.
That's why I think the debates - thought necessary and good for America - will not result in anything.
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| -Folks, the Debates aren't going to "save the day". |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 10:53 AM |
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The media seemed to generally agree that Kerry destroyed Bush in #1, |
Occam Bandage |
Aug-03-08 10:54 AM |
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That's true. If ever I doubted it, that doubt was dispelled after the 1st Kerry-Bush debate. |
CTyankee |
Aug-03-08 11:07 AM |
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Bush did too poorly in the first debate for even the MSM to fabricate a win |
Lirwin2 |
Aug-04-08 02:06 AM |
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Gore and Kerry lacked something Obama doesn't. |
GarbagemanLB |
Aug-03-08 10:58 AM |
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That's a good point, however . . . |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 11:03 AM |
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OK. McCrabby can have the sympathy vote. I don't really think |
babylonsister |
Aug-03-08 11:13 AM |
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The economy is going to decide this election |
Quixote1818 |
Aug-03-08 11:26 AM |
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delete n/t |
politicasista |
Aug-03-08 03:17 PM |
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I think we'll have to trust the votic public to know better this time around. |
zanne |
Aug-03-08 10:59 AM |
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I am Sure We Will Get The Vote of Every Thinking American |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-04-08 12:47 AM |
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Nixon-Kennedy |
Ghost of Tom Joad |
Aug-03-08 11:11 AM |
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See my post above about leveling the playing field. |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 11:15 AM |
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I'm not sure the average person watches debates... |
RazBerryBeret |
Aug-03-08 11:13 AM |
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Not Sure That I Agree |
salonghorn70 |
Aug-03-08 11:23 AM |
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I'm with you. I think many Americans base their opinions solely |
babylonsister |
Aug-03-08 11:57 AM |
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Really? I rarely run into anyone who has seen ONE. |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 12:48 PM |
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Ford-Carter. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-03-08 03:41 PM |
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The problem is, those debates all preceded the 24 hour cable infotainment that passes for political |
scarletwoman |
Aug-03-08 03:47 PM |
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Check this, scarlet. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-03-08 03:49 PM |
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I'm not saying debates can't have a good effect, I was just pointing out that the earlier examples |
scarletwoman |
Aug-03-08 04:06 PM |
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I understand, but had Kerry failed at any of the debates, he would've lost. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-03-08 04:14 PM |
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I Couldn't Agree More... |
BPAW |
Aug-03-08 12:37 PM |
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What Other Chance Have We Got for Obama To Reach Uncommitted Voters? |
AndyTiedye |
Aug-03-08 12:43 PM |
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If they're uncommitted, they're not going to watch a debate. |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 12:52 PM |
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You've actually argued why Obama will win the debates... |
Kristi1696 |
Aug-03-08 12:57 PM |
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I couldn't imagine Bush winning over Kerry. |
donco6 |
Aug-03-08 01:06 PM |
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Disagree. Kerry didn't win the election, but the debates certainly |
Midwestern Democrat |
Aug-03-08 02:24 PM |
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It is absolutely UP TO US! |
AZBlue |
Aug-03-08 03:32 PM |
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no, Kerry lost because he had a manicure. |
FLDem5 |
Aug-03-08 03:37 PM |
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I disagree. |
Drunken Irishman |
Aug-03-08 03:48 PM |
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Respectfully disagree. Obama can't take anything for granted |
politicasista |
Aug-03-08 04:24 PM |
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Obama may trigger mcDanger's latent anger. It will give him a chance to show how unstable mcSplode |
truthisfreedom |
Aug-04-08 12:50 AM |
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Also, Obama is a better 'speaker' than debater... if you watched the primary |
JCMach1 |
Aug-04-08 12:52 AM |
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What matters is how McCain's defined in over the next several weeks |
depakid |
Aug-04-08 02:20 AM |
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The MSM will declare McCain the winner at least once on the grounds |
anonymous171 |
Aug-04-08 03:12 AM |
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the 2004 elections were close because of the debates |
JI7 |
Aug-04-08 03:23 AM |
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The press with feed McCain the questions and wire him for the answers. |
McCamy Taylor |
Aug-04-08 04:16 AM |
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