depakid
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Fri Aug-01-08 05:07 AM
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| 54. People are being scammed- and they're buying it |
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For years in California, a sizeable majority of people were strongly opposed to more offshore oil rigs.
Now, after a only a couple of weeks of Republican demogoguery- a majority of Californians actually FAVOR more drilling- despite the FACT that it's do NOTHING to lower their petrol prices and likely will end up costing them tax monies.
How many more issues like this can the Dems afford to drop the ball on- or punt away?
Sometimes, it just boggles the mind to watch this stuff.
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| -Paul Krugman of NYT: Obama is being dismissive when he should be outraged... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:28 PM |
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I completely tuned out Krugman |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:29 PM |
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He knows how the oil business works - had it 100% right... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:31 PM |
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I'll never trust any word out of that man's mouth |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:32 PM |
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It was so obvious, wasn't it? |
thecatburgler |
Jul-31-08 07:34 PM |
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Which is why you can't trust a word out of his mouth |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:40 PM |
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Like him or not, he understands the oil business - and most Americans don't... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:41 PM |
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I don't trust him |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:49 PM |
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Good thing you're already supporting Obama... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:52 PM |
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PAul KRugman has no credibility any longer |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:53 PM |
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THat is LUDICROUS. Krugman preferred Edwards and Hillary's health care plan. Shoot him for that! |
chimpymustgo |
Jul-31-08 08:22 PM |
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Krugman had a hardon from Dec 2007 on. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-31-08 08:31 PM |
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No, he got downright NASTY on Obama and Obama supporters |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 08:32 PM |
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NOW I get the simple mindedness |
JoFerret |
Aug-01-08 12:40 PM |
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On Econ, tho, he's great. Reconsider, (logically). |
CTyankee |
Jul-31-08 07:44 PM |
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Sorry, can't trust him |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:49 PM |
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Yeah, Ronald Reagan thought he was great on the economy too, back when Paul worked for him. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-31-08 08:32 PM |
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damn - you Obama shit smearers will sink to any depth |
paulk |
Jul-31-08 09:29 PM |
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Krugman is a former Reagan advisor who likes outsourcing. |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 01:32 AM |
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My guess is that you haven't read (much less thought about) much that he's written |
depakid |
Aug-01-08 05:13 AM |
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One article about McCain's plan back in April. And he managed to bash Obama in it. |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 11:04 AM |
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Krugman on outsourcing: "outsourcing is less than a threat than is widely perceived" |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 11:08 AM |
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Oof! Great post. |
hisownpetard |
Aug-01-08 11:09 AM |
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Krugman has attacked McCain on healthcare |
paulk |
Aug-01-08 03:14 PM |
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Jul-31-08 07:41 PM |
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HE was wrong throughout the primaries |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:50 PM |
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yeah, whatever. |
paulk |
Jul-31-08 07:51 PM |
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Sure, not a problem. |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 07:53 PM |
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He was not wrong throughout the primaries |
jumptheshadow |
Aug-01-08 06:02 AM |
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So when's he going to start getting on McCain's case about his horrible health plan? |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 11:36 AM |
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For God's sake |
jumptheshadow |
Aug-01-08 06:00 PM |
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Aug-01-08 11:22 AM |
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"Or is there something you'd like to tell us? " |
paulk |
Aug-01-08 05:27 PM |
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Very foolish |
JoFerret |
Jul-31-08 08:30 PM |
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Krugman is no more of a critical thinker than Hannity. |
IWantAnyDem |
Aug-01-08 05:14 AM |
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In your view |
JoFerret |
Aug-01-08 09:41 AM |
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Krugman is a piece of crap |
IWantAnyDem |
Aug-01-08 10:06 AM |
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Way to critically think! |
depakid |
Aug-01-08 05:10 AM |
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I don't listen to Hannity, either |
IWantAnyDem |
Aug-01-08 05:15 AM |
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Yep Hannity |
JoFerret |
Aug-01-08 12:10 PM |
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outraged black man will not work for him |
Whisp |
Jul-31-08 07:31 PM |
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He meant that Obama needs to spell out how people are being scammed... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:32 PM |
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You are so right - 'it's not like we live in an equal society' nt |
gateley |
Jul-31-08 07:33 PM |
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Did you listen to Paul? He said Barack should have said |
napi21 |
Jul-31-08 07:34 PM |
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He did it with the gas tax scam - just needs to do it again. |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:36 PM |
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This is true - it wouldn' t hurt to step folk thru the scam n/t |
jazzy062 |
Jul-31-08 07:40 PM |
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He probably assumes people won't fall for quick fixes - again! |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:45 PM |
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I really hate to bring up an old saying, but you do know what |
napi21 |
Jul-31-08 08:26 PM |
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Well, much as I like Barack, he's an ass if he thinks people are getting the drilling issue... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 09:02 PM |
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It's not the candidate's job to educate people. I know that sounds crazy but it's the truth. |
thecatburgler |
Jul-31-08 07:50 PM |
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You're right on thesimple message idea. That's where the Pubs beat us |
napi21 |
Jul-31-08 08:32 PM |
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Yeah, 'cause fucking krugman knows best and |
zidzi |
Jul-31-08 07:37 PM |
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Well he was right about how people misperceive oil production... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:40 PM |
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Okay but I don't like krugman's whining from |
zidzi |
Jul-31-08 07:42 PM |
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Maybe Obama could choose the right surrogate to explain the scam... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 07:46 PM |
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Definetly! |
zidzi |
Jul-31-08 09:22 PM |
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me too. He really disappointed me the way he conducted himself. |
Whisp |
Jul-31-08 08:01 PM |
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Yup, that's part of the problem right there |
IWantAnyDem |
Jul-31-08 08:04 PM |
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Touche, Whisp! |
zidzi |
Jul-31-08 09:16 PM |
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How perceptive is a man who wears a bad rug? |
TexasObserver |
Jul-31-08 08:16 PM |
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Wish I'd emphasized the issue without using his name... |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 08:19 PM |
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I'll address your central point separately, then. |
TexasObserver |
Jul-31-08 08:28 PM |
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"McCain's plan is deficient because of A, B, and C. Mine works because of D, E, and F." |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 09:00 PM |
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For example on the topic of oil and gas ... |
TexasObserver |
Jul-31-08 09:22 PM |
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Yes - a presser with some known experts would be helpful. |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 09:28 PM |
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That's based on estimates from an interested energy consultant |
depakid |
Aug-01-08 05:29 AM |
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No, it's not. It's based upon widespread knowledge of experts in this area, in this field. |
TexasObserver |
Aug-01-08 11:12 AM |
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Totally. It 's like a red flag to the Hillary haters. n/t |
LisaM |
Aug-01-08 11:44 AM |
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It's shocking how people will ignorantly refuse to see the point. |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 11:57 AM |
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They just mentioned Krugman on Thom Hartmann.... |
LisaM |
Aug-01-08 12:15 PM |
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LOL |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 12:16 PM |
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I'll give you a rec and an agreement. How many times does this have to happen to us? |
DeepModem Mom |
Jul-31-08 09:15 PM |
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Well said - thanks! |
polichick |
Jul-31-08 09:18 PM |
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I just returned from dinner -- and I see Krugman is repeating on KO at this moment. nt |
DeepModem Mom |
Jul-31-08 09:23 PM |
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Completely agreed. |
Occam Bandage |
Jul-31-08 09:25 PM |
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The Obama campaign has completely dropped the ball on the energy issue. |
Walter Sobchak |
Jul-31-08 10:06 PM |
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The campaign is probably just giving people much more credit than they deserve... |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 04:54 AM |
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People are being scammed- and they're buying it |
depakid |
Aug-01-08 05:07 AM |
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Floridians have switched too - and Dems in Congress may cave... |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 05:14 AM |
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Krugman's so full of shit. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-01-08 11:05 AM |
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He's a dick. What's even more annoying is the DUers who think he walks on water. |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 11:10 AM |
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They SO want him to be the angry black man.. |
Virginia Dare |
Aug-01-08 11:24 AM |
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Wow - you completely missed the point... |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 11:45 AM |
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Obama already addressed this - yesterday. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-01-08 11:27 AM |
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Nothing Obama does will ever be good enough for Paul Krugman. nt |
thecatburgler |
Aug-01-08 11:39 AM |
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Unfortunately even voters in FL & CA are buying into the offshore hoax... |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 11:44 AM |
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Looks like people are buying into Krugman's hoax too. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-01-08 11:58 AM |
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Get past the messenger already... |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 12:02 PM |
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Paul Krugman lied to your face, in spite of video evidence to the contrary. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Aug-01-08 12:22 PM |
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Instead of whining about the messenger, why not address the specific point you disagree with? |
polichick |
Aug-01-08 12:25 PM |
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