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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-31-08 10:10 PM
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96. Here's the slight problem with that . . .
Edited on Thu Jul-31-08 10:11 PM by HughBeaumont
Carter was an ordinary guy.

The media hated him, the DC elite couldn't stand him and the American public decided they had enough of a "regular guy" president, judging by his approval numbers. Only the thinkers of the country knew where he was going and that it would be impossible to attain in the limited time Carter had. Like you, and Adlai Stevenson implied though, thinkers aren't gonna be enough to get our guys over the top.

But somehow, that "Reg'lur" image is perfectly alright . . . when they're a southern-drawl Republican.

Maybe it's not about being a regular guy.

Maybe it's not about trying to be one.

What it boils down to is that people simply do not like Democrats. I don't know whether it's because they watch too much TV or listen to too much hate radio or are fans of "The Republican Song", but the fact is that even if it means voting against their better interests; even if it means saying yes to the destruction of this country and its small towns, even if it means more soldiers coming home in body bags for the bank accounts of Bechtol and KBR, it's SO much better than having to admit they were wrong.

I think it's more along the lines of "how do we make the middle and poor classes stop hating and distrusting Democrats in general"?

The quick answer would be to buy a media outlet. But since that isn't going to happen because our machine is simply not as ruthless, greedy, well monied and power-hungry as theirs is, what's the solution?
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  -I hate to say this, but Obama needs to eat a Big Mac with one hand... WCGreen  Jul-31-08 02:37 PM   #0 
  - I must be weird because I have no interest in "hanging" with any Republican. nt  thecatburgler   Jul-31-08 02:39 PM   #1 
  - Well neither do I...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:41 PM   #7 
  - They'd just make fun of him for using a napkin.  Richardo   Jul-31-08 02:40 PM   #2 
  - Yup. I remember when John Kerry went hunting in cammo...  CTyankee   Jul-31-08 03:25 PM   #44 
  - While i dont buy into the elitist crap for a second  Egnever   Jul-31-08 02:40 PM   #3 
  - Big Mac attack  proud patriot   Jul-31-08 03:47 PM   #56 
  - I think Obama is doing just fine on that score  supernova   Jul-31-08 02:40 PM   #4 
  - Then why are the tracking polls geting closer...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:42 PM   #9 
     - Because the powers that be want them that way.  Kierkegaard   Jul-31-08 02:50 PM   #24 
     - Bingo!  xxqqqzme   Jul-31-08 03:14 PM   #38 
     - Because more people are starting to pay attention  supernova   Jul-31-08 02:55 PM   #27 
  - And McCain is one of 'us'?  BrentTaylor   Jul-31-08 02:40 PM   #5 
  - Did I say that...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:55 PM   #74 
  - Bill Clinton was the kind of guy who enjoyed McDonald's  Jake3463   Jul-31-08 02:40 PM   #6 
  - Well you gotta practice...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:42 PM   #11 
     - I think he's fine  Jake3463   Jul-31-08 02:46 PM   #20 
        - I agree. The man orders PBR!  Patchuli   Jul-31-08 09:44 PM   #94 
  - I know you're speaking figuratively... but  depakid   Jul-31-08 02:41 PM   #8 
  - I know he can do it...  CaliforniaPeggy   Jul-31-08 02:42 PM   #10 
  - He could get a couple of Happy Meals for the girls while he's at it  rox63   Jul-31-08 02:57 PM   #28 
  - McCain the multi-millionaire  Franks Wild Years   Jul-31-08 02:42 PM   #12 
  - personally, i don't want the person who can single-handedly (to some degree)...  islandmkl   Jul-31-08 02:42 PM   #13 
  - good point...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:43 PM   #14 
  - Does he need to let "sauce" slop all over his shoes, while  LWolf   Jul-31-08 02:43 PM   #15 
  - Nah, just a one time thing...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:43 PM   #16 
  - I think a lot of people want to hang with Obama.  peace13   Jul-31-08 02:44 PM   #17 
  - I don't want a president that's an "ordinary guy"  Maine-ah   Jul-31-08 02:44 PM   #18 
  - Neither do I....  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:45 PM   #19 
  - The RW Noise idiots went after him for wearing jeans while riding a bike.  blondeatlast   Jul-31-08 02:46 PM   #21 
  - You forgot the "sarcasm" tag.  Alter Ego   Jul-31-08 02:49 PM   #22 
  - And here I though these lines would suffice...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:59 PM   #32 
     - I suppose so, but my bullshit detector was put through the wringer  Alter Ego   Jul-31-08 03:00 PM   #33 
  - McCain isn't 'one of us' either. He's far wealthier than Obama.  Elrond Hubbard   Jul-31-08 02:49 PM   #23 
  - Thanks for accepting the media narrative... So cool to be part of the problem.  Mass   Jul-31-08 02:50 PM   #25 
  - I know that and you know that....  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:58 PM   #30 
     - May be start by not believing the polls. It will be a serious progress.  Mass   Jul-31-08 03:03 PM   #36 
        - You are right, it is code word for race, just like "arrogant" and  CTyankee   Jul-31-08 03:29 PM   #48 
  - I think this is alot of BS stupid shit !  RethugAssKicker   Jul-31-08 02:51 PM   #26 
  - You and I are...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 02:57 PM   #29 
  - Should he stick his pinky finger out while eating this strategic hamburger? I mean, don't leave us  hisownpetard   Jul-31-08 02:58 PM   #31 
  - Well, when the floods in Iowa and Midwest were raging, Obama grabbed a shovel  glowing   Jul-31-08 03:01 PM   #34 
  - Challenge the idea that the President must be "one of us."  treestar   Jul-31-08 03:02 PM   #35 
  - Definitely not. Read a good old book about that....  demokatgurrl   Jul-31-08 03:24 PM   #43 
  - I have a feeling that McCain could out-Big Mac  CJCRANE   Jul-31-08 03:08 PM   #37 
  - Do you really want to hang out with McCain?  demokatgurrl   Jul-31-08 03:16 PM   #39 
  - He had a hotdog a couple days ago.  ieoeja   Jul-31-08 03:17 PM   #40 
  - He was hitting rural MO hard the past few days  loyalsister   Jul-31-08 11:06 PM   #98 
  - Bill Clinton was acting when he was showing he was one of us.  Whisp   Jul-31-08 03:19 PM   #41 
  - You don't think Bill really liked Krispy Kremes  JoFerret   Jul-31-08 09:52 PM   #95 
  - Would a fucking hot dog do for you?  zidzi   Jul-31-08 03:21 PM   #42 
  - It's not a chilie dog...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:55 PM   #76 
     - He looks good eatin'  zidzi   Jul-31-08 09:27 PM   #92 
  - And then loudly belch afterward.  book_worm   Jul-31-08 03:26 PM   #45 
  - Right. Because there's nothing faker than a "looky I'm eating a Big Mac" photo-op.  Political Heretic   Jul-31-08 03:26 PM   #46 
  - No corny photo ops, please.  bigwillq   Jul-31-08 03:27 PM   #47 
  - For what it's worth...  Bluenorthwest   Jul-31-08 03:31 PM   #49 
  - do you think that won him any votes? n/t  IndependentDem   Jul-31-08 03:36 PM   #51 
     - Probably, yes  Bluenorthwest   Jul-31-08 03:42 PM   #52 
        - Cool. thanks for your opinion and perspective.  IndependentDem   Jul-31-08 03:43 PM   #53 
        - That's the whole point...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:15 PM   #66 
  - Obama is one of us. period. n/t  IndependentDem   Jul-31-08 03:35 PM   #50 
  - Yeah, he should ride a mechanical bull in Tx and shoot some elk in Alaska  Jersey Devil   Jul-31-08 03:45 PM   #54 
  - yeah. and he should piss in an empty soda bottle when he is on the highway, so he doesnt gotta stop  jakem   Jul-31-08 03:47 PM   #55 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-31-08 04:03 PM   #57 
  - Seriously?  otohara   Jul-31-08 04:05 PM   #58 
  - Better yet...  Independent_Voice   Jul-31-08 04:26 PM   #59 
  - That would look so staged and fake so are you suggesting that's what "Ordinary guy" wants?  chimpsrsmarter   Jul-31-08 04:28 PM   #60 
  - Idi-fucking-otic. Never pretend to be what you're not. That's when you get  wienerdoggie   Jul-31-08 04:48 PM   #61 
  - Eating a big mac is not pretending to be a big game hunter...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:12 PM   #64 
     - It would look contrived. If he wants to, he'll do it, but people know  wienerdoggie   Jul-31-08 05:14 PM   #65 
        - totally. "Hey look, i'm obviously pandering here, huh, ya like that?" Maybe get him one  chimpsrsmarter   Jul-31-08 05:16 PM   #67 
  - Maybe he should drink beer, eat Doritos and fart into the sofa  PlanetBev   Jul-31-08 04:50 PM   #62 
  - I like him just fine being himself. And what's more, why is it so bad  jane_pippin   Jul-31-08 04:52 PM   #63 
  - But having a shared experience with someone running for office,  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:18 PM   #68 
     - I understand that. And I don't mean that people  jane_pippin   Jul-31-08 05:48 PM   #72 
        - I'm sick of it as well...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:57 PM   #77 
           - I'll agree that the media is still foisting the old Maverick McCain myth, but really  jane_pippin   Jul-31-08 06:21 PM   #80 
  - Wht can't he just hack a basketball court out of a corn field...  BrotherBuzz   Jul-31-08 05:23 PM   #69 
  - I understand what you say...but think you are dwelling too much on '04 Election with Kerry  KoKo01   Jul-31-08 05:27 PM   #70 
  - That won't work. Obama comes from a different background, so  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jul-31-08 05:36 PM   #71 
  - I chose a big mac because almost every American has had one...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:54 PM   #73 
  - Even if you're right, the heart of the matter is different  BeyondGeography   Jul-31-08 05:55 PM   #75 
  - That was almost a whole generation of voters ago...  WCGreen   Jul-31-08 05:59 PM   #79 
     - It was last election, bud  BeyondGeography   Jul-31-08 08:17 PM   #85 
        - Hey bub, the more things change the more they stay the same...  WCGreen   Aug-01-08 12:11 AM   #99 
  - we all scarf some fast food from time to time  27inCali   Jul-31-08 05:58 PM   #78 
  - Haven't we had enough of that "ordinary guy" crap with the past 8 years?  terrya   Jul-31-08 06:37 PM   #81 
  - Hey WC ... lissen up..  larissa   Jul-31-08 06:37 PM   #82 
  - I am so glad you are immersed so completely in Sen. Obama's  WCGreen   Aug-01-08 12:15 AM   #100 
  - When I am looking for a leader to represent the best of America...  DangerousRhythm   Jul-31-08 07:01 PM   #83 
  - WCGreen, I'm sorry, but this is the biggest pantload you've ever posted.  asthmaticeog   Jul-31-08 07:14 PM   #84 
  - Yeah! ....And besides that....  larissa   Jul-31-08 09:11 PM   #86 
  - I don't get this at all. I'd much rather hang with Obama than McCain.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jul-31-08 09:14 PM   #87 
  - Obama would probably look pretty cool in a pickup truck.  Alexander   Jul-31-08 09:17 PM   #88 
  - Obama would look cool in anything, anywhere, anytime.  DebJ   Jul-31-08 09:21 PM   #90 
     - Agreed. But a pickup truck photo-op would go over well.  Alexander   Jul-31-08 09:22 PM   #91 
  - The Big Mac box clearly advocates eating it with two hands. n/t  Occam Bandage   Jul-31-08 09:19 PM   #89 
  - Frankly, I never wanted to "hang out" with any of our presidents.  wisteria   Jul-31-08 09:32 PM   #93 
  - But that is you....  WCGreen   Aug-01-08 12:20 AM   #102 
  - Here's the slight problem with that . . .  HughBeaumont   Jul-31-08 10:10 PM   #96 
  - Please  quakerboy   Jul-31-08 10:44 PM   #97 
  - Hear your point, yes, but could he do it in other ways?  Old Crusoe   Aug-01-08 12:18 AM   #101 
 

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