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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-30-08 11:57 PM
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53. Just stating the facts. Sorry if you're too sensitive to hear them.
Edited on Wed Jul-30-08 11:57 PM by Alexander
"There you go again,"

Isn't that a Reagan quote? Why are you quoting Reagan, of all people?

"assuming you know what other people are thinking, the arrogance!"

Uh, no. I stated my personal experience with people opposed to Sebelius.

So far, the only people opposed to a Sebelius VP whenever I mention it have been bitter Clinton supporters.

Don't like it? Too bad. Go cry somewhere else.

"Yes, the primaries are over and any Hillary supporters that are still unable to accept Obama as the nominee are sure as hell not hanging out on this board!"

1) Some of them still are, trying to concern-troll us into submission.

2) There is no point in trying to please these people. They will hate Obama even if Hillary is the VP.

3) If the primaries are over, what's wrong with picking Sebelius?

"As far as I can tell the people on this board that can't get past the primaries are the Hillary-hating, sore winners that still seem to take personal offense at the fact that she even DARED run for the nomination."

When you have blinders on, it's hard to see what you don't want to see.

Obviously you haven't seen and/or cared about all the concern trolls here bashing the potential VP candidates who don't have the name "Hillary Clinton". That's not my problem. It's yours.

By the way, even though I'm not a Clinton supporter, I'd still trust Obama's judgment if he chose her as VP. What do you think of that? Kind of pokes a hole in your "arrogance" meme, doesn't it?

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  -Why not Sebelius? crimsonblue  Jul-30-08 10:47 PM   #0 
  - I don't think she adds anything special.....  KansasVoter   Jul-30-08 10:51 PM   #1 
  - I agree with no National Security - don't want a VP (potential Pres) without it  JoeIsOneOfUs   Jul-30-08 10:53 PM   #3 
  - i call bullshit  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 10:56 PM   #5 
  - She wouldn't be able to bring in her home state.  LostInAnomie   Jul-30-08 10:51 PM   #2 
  - Obama's already said geography is not his main criteria  democrattotheend   Jul-30-08 11:18 PM   #26 
     - one could say that Gore did win Florida...  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:20 PM   #27 
        - I agree. I almost said that  democrattotheend   Jul-31-08 12:16 AM   #59 
  - Who would be governor of the state if she was the Veep???  rpannier   Jul-30-08 10:53 PM   #4 
  - Mark Parkinson - A Democrat and the current Lt. Governor.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 10:57 PM   #6 
     - Thanks  rpannier   Jul-30-08 10:59 PM   #8 
  - The only arguments I've seen against her are from bitter Clinton supporters.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 10:59 PM   #7 
  - I think anyone that can bring considerable "draw"  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:02 PM   #10 
  - Just remember Gore was an influential VP in the Clinton administration.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 11:09 PM   #19 
  - There you go again, assuming you know what other people  TheDebbieDee   Jul-30-08 11:16 PM   #25 
  - Just stating the facts. Sorry if you're too sensitive to hear them.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 11:57 PM   #53 
  - I am not a Clinton supporter and I don't want her on the ticket  proud2Blib   Jul-30-08 11:25 PM   #34 
  - Why? I'd like to hear your reasoning, particularly since you're from Kansas.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 11:48 PM   #48 
     - Most people from here that don't want Sebelius on the ticket  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:52 PM   #51 
     - So your argument against Sebelius is that she should run for the Senate?  Alexander   Jul-31-08 12:00 AM   #54 
        - I hadn't thought about the Parkinson angle...  crimsonblue   Jul-31-08 12:05 AM   #57 
     - He needs someone stronger on foreign policy  proud2Blib   Jul-31-08 08:24 AM   #64 
  - bullshit  paulk   Jul-31-08 09:11 AM   #65 
  - She doesn't bring any electoral votes and her son is a vetting problem, but she's awesome and I hope  Stop Cornyn   Jul-30-08 11:01 PM   #9 
  - What's wrong with her son?  democrattotheend   Jul-30-08 11:27 PM   #36 
     - Nah....He was the "genius" behind a "Don't Get Raped in Prison"  prodn2000   Jul-30-08 11:43 PM   #43 
        - well I think McSame's banker son  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:45 PM   #44 
           - Well....Then McSame is DEFINITELY not on the "short-list" of Obama's potential VPs  prodn2000   Jul-30-08 11:46 PM   #45 
              - har har  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:47 PM   #47 
                 - If they have skeletons, then we will use them. We don't need to hand the ammo to them for our side  prodn2000   Jul-30-08 11:49 PM   #49 
  - I have nothing against her.  Beregond2   Jul-30-08 11:03 PM   #11 
  - I disagree. It's a meme that has some traction in media world, and perhaps in the electorate.  pinto   Jul-30-08 11:11 PM   #20 
  - Obama has proven his foreign policy judgment  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:14 PM   #22 
  - I don't think she delivers Kansas. And her State of the Union response wasn't so great.  StevieM   Jul-30-08 11:04 PM   #12 
  - Obama doesn't need a charismatic VP  democrattotheend   Jul-30-08 11:24 PM   #32 
     - I think she would have run for President  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:27 PM   #35 
     - I agree with everything you said...  CitizenLeft   Jul-30-08 11:51 PM   #50 
  - What does she add to the ticket?  MercutioATC   Jul-30-08 11:05 PM   #13 
  - what better symbol of change  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:07 PM   #16 
     - You're thinking like a Democrat.  MercutioATC   Jul-30-08 11:21 PM   #28 
        - obviously it's the white guy....  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:23 PM   #30 
        - Republicans seem to have done quite well with the rural vote for decades.  MercutioATC   Jul-30-08 11:36 PM   #40 
           - well it's a good thing it's decided in each state  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:46 PM   #46 
        - plus, I think Sebelius adds more to the Moderate Bloc  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:25 PM   #33 
           - I really don't think "moderates" want "progressive".  MercutioATC   Jul-30-08 11:42 PM   #42 
  - It's unfortunate that you partially framed this in terms of Gov. Sebelius or  pinto   Jul-30-08 11:05 PM   #14 
  - I wasn't meaning the OP to be an either/or  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:08 PM   #18 
     - Ah, yeah. Agree. I don't see Gov. Sebelius mentioned on TV much either.  pinto   Jul-30-08 11:13 PM   #21 
        - it may be that the media, more than anybody  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:15 PM   #23 
           - I don't think that is it. I've seen much more talk of the other possibles on the media list, of late  pinto   Jul-30-08 11:41 PM   #41 
  - I personally think many people don't want her because she's a woman  Bullet1987   Jul-30-08 11:07 PM   #15 
  - I think the PUMA crowd would go apopleptic.  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:07 PM   #17 
  - Good. Anything that pisses them off makes me happy.  Alexander   Jul-30-08 11:15 PM   #24 
     - Yes. Yes they are. Sexist racists.  cliffordu   Jul-30-08 11:21 PM   #29 
  - She's a decent choice, but to address some of your points.  jobycom   Jul-30-08 11:24 PM   #31 
  - Good reply - but I agree with the original poster. A couple of points...  jonestonesusa   Jul-30-08 11:55 PM   #52 
     - to add to your comments...  crimsonblue   Jul-31-08 12:03 AM   #55 
     - All very good arguments, and I can't refute any of them.  jobycom   Jul-31-08 12:28 AM   #60 
        - I'd admit that Sebelius isn't the safe pick...  crimsonblue   Jul-31-08 12:35 AM   #61 
           - I won't be sad if she's the one.  jobycom   Jul-31-08 12:37 AM   #62 
              - The RNC told me he's "The One"....  crimsonblue   Jul-31-08 12:41 AM   #63 
  - How about Janet Napolitano of Arizona?  Phredicles   Jul-30-08 11:29 PM   #37 
  - she'd be a good choice too...  crimsonblue   Jul-30-08 11:30 PM   #38 
  - Good choice  bigmoon   Jul-30-08 11:33 PM   #39 
  - There is no Lt. Gov. in AZ, therefore the Gov. would be a Republican.  Alexander   Jul-31-08 12:04 AM   #56 
  - Strategically speaking, I don't see her helping the ticket very much.  dontforgetpoland   Jul-31-08 12:11 AM   #58 
 

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